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RICK WARREN PREDICTS CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM TO BE ENEMY OF 21st CENTURY!"Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be 'one of the big enemies of the 21st century. Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism - they're all motivated by fear. Fear of each other." http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/rwfundamentalism.htm



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PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE

This document about Rick Warren looks like to be very christian, but I tell you STOP and LISTEN what I have to tell you.

When Rick speaks about what He will do with all this money, notoriety and influence, we have to stop at point no 3. When Rick Warren speaks about the ­"PEACE PLAN", he's speaking about  the GLOBAL PEACE PLAN OF ISLAM not the GLOBAL PEACE PLAN OF CHRISTIANITY. It's like Barack Obama. He tells that he is a christian but in reality He is on the side of the Radical Islamic
.

Just see the proves of that with the informations I give you  
http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/False-Teachers.html  

So when Rick Warren speak about God, He's speaking about ALLAH, not YAHWE. This document just confirm what he's really doing.

This men is an Illuminati, a CFR member like his wife, so they play in high level of the conspiracy.  This man is a traitor inside the Church of God and so many have been seduce by this man.  

PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE

Rick Warren (REMEMBER HE WROTE "PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE")
You will enjoy the new insights that Rick Warren has, with his wife now having cancer and him having "wealth" from the book sales. This is an absolutely incredible short interview with Rick Warren, "Purpose Driven Life " author and pastor of Saddleback Church in California.

In the interview by Paul Bradshaw with Rick Warren, Rick said:People ask me, What is the purpose of life? And I respond: In a nutshell, life is preparation for eternity. We were made to last forever, and God wants us to be with Him in Heaven.One day my heart is going to stop, and that will be the end of my body-- but not the end of me.

I may live 20 to 100 years on earth, but I am going to spend trillions of years in eternity. This is the warm-up act - the dress rehearsal. God wants us to practice on earth what we will do forever in eternity. We were made by God and for God, and until you figure that out, life isn't going to make sense. Life is a series of problems: Either you are in one now, you're just coming out of one, or you're getting ready to go into another one.The reason for this is that God is more interested in your character than your comfort.

God is more interested in making your life holy than He is in making your life happy.

We can be reasonably happy here on earth, but that's not the goal of life . The goal is to grow in character, in Christ likeness.

This past year has been the greatest year of my life but also the toughest, with my wife, Kay, getting cancer.

I used to think that life was hills and valleys - you go through a dark time, then you go to the mountaintop, back and forth. I don't believe that anymore. Rather than life being hills and valleys, I believe that it's kind of like two rails on a railroad track, and at all times you have something good and something bad in your life.

No matter how good things are in your life, there is always something bad that needs to be worked on. And no matter how bad things are in your life, there is always something good you can thank God for. You can focus on your purposes, or you can focus on your problems. If you focus on your problems, you're going into self-centeredness,"which is my problem, my issues, my pain." But one of the easiest ways to get rid of pain is to get your focus off yourself and onto God and others.

We discovered quickly that in spite of the prayers of hundreds of thousands of people, God was not going to heal Kay or make it easy for her. It has been very difficult for her, and yet God has strengthened her character, given her a ministry of helping other people, given her a testimony, drawn her closer to Him and to people. You have to learn to deal with both the good and the bad of life.

Actually, sometimes learning to deal with the good is harder. For instance, this past year, all of a sudden, when the book sold 15 million copies, it made me instantly very wealthy.It also brought a lot of notoriety that I had never had to deal with before. I don't think God gives you money or notoriety for your own ego or for you to live a life of ease.

So I began to ask God what He wanted me to do with this money, notoriety and influence. He gave me two different passages that helped me decide what to do, II Corinthians 9 and Psalm 72

First, in spite of all the money coming in, we would not change our lifestyle one bit. We made no major purchases.

Second, about midway through last year, I stopped taking a salary from the church.

Third, we set up foundations to fund an initiative we call THE PEACE PLAN to plant churches, equip leaders, assist the poor , care for the sick, and educate the next generation.

Fourth, I added up all that the church had paid me in the 24 years since I started the church, and I gave it all back. It was liberating to be able to serve God for free.

We need to ask ourselves: Am I going to live for possessions? Popularity? Am I going to be driven by pressures? Guilt? Bitterness? Materialism? Or am I going to be driven by God's purposes (for my life)?

When I get up in the morning, I sit on the side of my bed and say, God, if I don't get anything else done today, I want to know You more and love You better. God didn't put me on earth just to fulfill a to-do list. He's more interested in what I am than what I do.

That's why we're called human beings, not human doings.

Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.


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RICK WARREN OK WITH HARRY POTTER

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According to the June 21st issue of Rick Warren's weekly newsletter, the headline above is accurate. This week's Ministry Toolbox, which is Warren's way of communicating with pastors and church leaders around the world, has a link titled "Recommended Reading List." While the list is actually that of contemplative promoter James Emery White, (a contributor to Warren's newsletter), it ended up on Warren's own newsletter as recommended reading. 1

On the Recommended Book list is the following descrïption of the upcoming Harry Potter release:

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling. Though the seventh and final installment is yet to be released (July 21, to be exact), when it does, it will be well-worth reading. Though some would disagree, I am one to put Rowling's work in the camp of fantasy literature, along with Lewis and Tolkien, with her use of magic more mechanical than occultic. I found her earlier six volumes instant classics of the genre, and the final book will undoubtedly cement this series as among the best written.
Clearly, Rick Warren is OK with Harry Potter or this would not be promoted on his website as well as in his e-newsletter.

While many people think Harry Potter is harmless (even many Christians), facts should not be ignored. Some of those facts are presented by research analyst Ray Yungen. He explains what he has discovered about Harry Potter:

There are probably very few people in the western world who haven't heard of the Harry Potter book series phenomenon. Not just millions, but tens of millions of adults, adolescents, and children have read these books or seen the movie versions of them. Going by the numbers of the books that have been purchased, few under 25 have not been influenced to some degree by the adventures of this boy wizard. And many ask, what is wrong with that?

The Potter series, though fiction in the technical sense, does make a very real connection to the realm of metaphysics in one spot specifically. In the book called Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, one of the main characters, a professor, tells her class that they will learn divination or see into the future. It's at this point that the book departs from the world of make believe, and enters into the actual teachings of Wicca (witchcraft). The teacher informs the students:

Crystal gazing is a particularly refined art.… We shall start by practicing relaxing the conscious mind and external eyes, ... so as to clear the Inner Eye and the superconscious.

All one has to do is type in the word "superconscious" on Google on the Internet and see just how highly promoted that term is. It comes up nearly 130,000 times! Keep in mind, this term is used specifically within the context of metaphysics, and is never used in a non-metaphysical sense. What this means is that any impressionable young person who reads this term, could become more open and comfortable with the mystical realm in real life.

This is what you would be taught if you attended a real school of witchcraft. Relaxing the conscious mind is, of course, meditation, and the Inner Eye is an occult term used for the Third eye chakra from which all psychic powers, such as divination, spring. But the absolute clincher is the term "superconscious." If you were to ask any New Age teacher, guru, or practitioner what the "superconscious" is, you would get the same answer--it's the New Age concept of God. In fact, Buckland's Complete Book Of Witchcraft actually uses the term "Superconsciousness" in reference to what or to whom witches tune into during meditation.

There is another more subtle, yet perhaps more far-reaching aspect to the Potter books. In the series, those people who are "non-magical" or ordinary are called "muggles." They are portrayed as dull, backward, and lacking in personality. It is inferred that if you are a "muggle," you are living an inferior and unsatisfying life. Now if there were no such thing as "muggles" this comparison would be meaningless. How can you feel bad about being something that doesn't exist? But, as I have already shown, The Prisoner of Azkaban presents real witchcraft. So then, not to have access to the "superconscious" makes one a "muggle," (i.e., a non-mystic).

This means that the spiritual beliefs of potentially millions of young people, many of them from conservative homes too, may be altered if they pick up this outlook, even subconsciously; thus the Harry Potter books may be a highly effective tool in giving the New Age movement a boost that is unimaginable. It will implant in the minds of multitudes that to fail to embrace mysticism makes you, well, muggle-like. (from For Many Shall Come in My Name, 2nd ed., pp. 94-95)

The fact that Rick Warren has given the green light this week to Harry Potter through his recommendation of James Emery White's reading list could have disastrous effects on the spiritual lives of countless people, potentially 400,000 pastors (the number who have done the Purpose Driven Life program) and the millions of congregants who sit under the teachings of these pastors.

Rick Warren's continuous promotion of the New Age (e.g., emerging spirituality, contemplative (mysticism), spiritual formation, ecumenism, etc.) has drawn virtually no response by most of today's Christian leaders. Either they have wholeheartedly supported Rick Warren's teachings or have perhaps, and just as detrimental, said nothing at all. This week's uplifting of Harry Potter is just another Purpose Driven step away from biblical truth and a
closer view of the occult.

Interestingly, five and a half years ago in 2001, Rick Warren ran a story on his website that spoke up against Harry Potter. That article made a clear statement that Harry Potter was dangerous for kids because of its witchcraft element. All we can say to that is, "You've come along way Rick Warren!"

For related information:
"What Do the Secret, Harry Potter, and Yoga Have in Common?" by Caryl Matrisciana

English Occult: A Look at Black Magic in England by CBS News

Rick Warren Promotes Another Contemplative Author - James Emery White

James Emery White's Mysticism Reading List

This article or excerpt was posted on June 21, 2007@ 9:02 pm .

From:
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/
Category: * Purpose Driven

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IS RICK WARREN IGNORING SIN IN SEARCH FOR 'PEACE'?



Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 7/29/2008 7:30:00 AM

Christian broadcaster and author Tom McMahon says evangelical pastor Rick Warren's belief that the church must take the lead in solving the world's problems of poverty, disease, and war cannot be reconciled with the scrïptures.

Pastor Warren will be hosting an interfaith meeting next month http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=189618 ith 30 Christian, Jewish, and Muslim leaders "to discuss cooperation for the common good of all Americans." Warren's P.E.A.C.E. plan mobilizes churches to address global problems. But McMahon, president of The Berean Call ministry, says the popular Christian author is introducing evangelical Christianity to the social gospel that he learned from his mentor, social scientist Peter Drucker.

"As a Christian, as a biblical Christian, I have real concerns about this because I don't find this in the scrïptures," McMahon explains. "You see, it's true the world has all kinds of problems, but he's working on the symptoms and avoiding the root cause, which is the sin nature of humanity. So how can you work with all kinds of people [who are] called 'people of faith,' but it's not biblical faith?"

McMahon contends that only the biblical gospel can change the heart of man, and that Warren is compromising that by working with people who reject the gospel of Christ. He says that although Pastor Warren claims his life's calling is "to proclaim the gospel truth of salvation in Jesus Christ," it is doubtful that gospel will be proclaimed at the interfaith meeting.

"I believe that Rick has a low view of prophecy," McMahon contends. "Well, I think he needs to heed the words of Jesus [in Luke 18:8]: 'When the Son of Man cometh shall He find faith upon the earth?'  Well, 'people of faith' yes, but certainly not the faith that Jude exhorts true believers to contend for."  

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RICK WARREN, 'GAY' ADVOCATE TEAM UP TO HOST OBAMA-MCCAIN

Joint appearance at Saddleback Church co-sponsored by faith group challenging 'right'

Posted: July 26, 2008
12:00 am Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily



Hillary Clinton greeted by Rick Warren before her speech at Saddleback Church in November (WND photo)

The upcoming joint appearance by Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain at Rick Warren's evangelical Saddleback Church is co-sponsored by a left-leaning group led by a Unitarian-Universalist minister who once headed her denomination's homosexual advocacy office.

Meg Riley is the board president of Faith in Public Life, whose board members include other theological liberals, including a pro-abortion Muslim leader and a Jewish rabbi, reported OneNewsNow.

The group's stated vision hints at its challenge to the influence of the so-called religious right, saying it "envisions a country in which diverse religious voices for justice and the common good consistently impact public policy; and those who use religion as a tool of division and exclusion do not dominate public discourse."

The blog Watchers Lamp noted Faith in Public Life offers a list of faith-based groups on its website that promote the homosexual-rights agenda
http://www.faithinpubliclife.org/content/issues/glbt/ .

Warren told OneNewsNow, a Christian Internet site, he's not troubled by the association with a group at odds with his church's conservative evangelical theology.

"Really we just are ... co-hosting [the event]," Warren said, noting Faith in Public Life came up with the idea.

"Actually, we're in total control of the format, the program, the questions," he said. "It's at our church; and so it's not their event, it's our event."

Warren will moderate the event with the presumed Republican and Democratic presidential nominees Aug.16 at Saddleback Church's Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion. He said the forum will be "a civil and thoughtful format absent the partisan 'gotcha' questions that typically produce heat instead of light." Issues, he suggested, would include poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate and human rights.

Warren said that, at the candidates' request, the two-hour forum will be held in a non-debate format and open to all media. Both candidates want the questions to be posed exclusively by Warren, instead of a panel or members of the audience. Obama and McCain will each have an hour to converse with Warren, beginning with Obama, as determined by a coin toss.

As WND reported, Obama's appearance in 2006 at Saddleback's Global Summit on AIDS and the Church stirred controversy when some evangelicals objected to a pro-choice Democrat being given the pulpit of a church that opposes abortion. At last year's AIDS summit, in November, Sen. Hillary Clinton gave a warmly received speech while Obama and McCain were among several candidates who presented taped messages via satellite.

In addition to the Civil Forum event, Warren will convene an interfaith meeting at the church for some 30 Christian, Jewish and Muslim leaders to discuss "cooperation in projects for the common good of all Americans."

Warren, author of the mega-best-seller "The Purpose Driven Life," told OneNewsNow he does not believe the biblical Gospel is compromised by working with non-Christians in efforts to promote the "common good."

"Now, I don't happen to agree with Muslims," Warren said, 'and I don't happen to agree with Jewish people, and I don't even agree with all of the things Catholics believe, but I ... can work with them on doing something like stopping AIDS, because we all believe sex is for marriage only."

In the candidates' forum, Warren plans to focus on issues political reporters often ignore, such as how the candidates view the Constitution. One question might be, he told OneNewsNow, "Is it a quote 'living document' that can be changed, that can be reinterpreted with each generation as things change? Or is it a truth written in granite that is a standard by which we evaluate everything else, and you don't change it unless we amend it?"

A Warren critic, evangelical pastor Bob DeWaay, author of the book "Redefining Christianity: Understanding the Purpose Driven Movement" and founder of the apologetics ministry Critical Issues Commentary, says he believes Warren is operating under the mistaken notion that uniting all religions to fight problems like AIDS and poverty will "warm people up" to Christianity.

But he admits many evangelicals have a strong affinity for Warren.

"He's a very likeable guy on the surface, and I think pastors and Christians think, 'Well, look at this, if he can get all these people on board and he can build a big church and he's popular, and maybe if we get on board with that, some of that will rub off. Maybe we'll learn how to have a bigger church and how to be popular,'" DeWaay said in an audio report on his website.

But DeWaay often reminds people "Jesus told us that the world would hate us."

"Okay, so something's seriously wrong if we do achieve popularity with the world," he said.

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Occult Theocracy: definition. 1. Ancient Myth. A mingling of various deities or divine attributes into one personality; also a mixture of different deities.

Murray New English Dictionary

Having temporarily failed to usher in its new global order by military force, the Illuminati has now decided to unleash a far greater power in pursuit of its wicked, dictatorial goals: The power of Global Spirituality.

To achieve this, the Illuminati's premier political and economic organ, the socialistic, pro-Zionist Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), has elevated to membership two key operatives, two men who are at the helm of America's most influential Christian evangelical groups. I refer to Pastor Rick Warren, Saddleback Community Church in California, and Dr. Richard Land, reigning religious potentate and poobah of the massive Southern Baptist Convention.


The Illuminati’s Council on Foreign Relations has enlisted the services of evangelicals, Pastor Rick Warren (left) and Richard Land (right), to marshall tens of millions of evangelical Christians in a global crusade to convert humanity to the New Global Spirituality.

For the first time in the almost 100-year history of the CFR, evangelical leaders have been elevated to elite status as members of the exclusive globalist secret society. Their charge is to bring over 100 million Americans who are thought to be religious conservatives into the fold of the Illuminati and into the Big Tent of the emerging Zionist Global Order.

Rick Warren, called "America's Pastor" by the Illuminist-controlled media, has over 100,000 churches and pastors signed up in allegiance to his New Age Purpose-Driven Movement. Richard Land, meanwhile, is heard on over 600 radio stations and is a featured speaker at Southern Baptist conclaves.

Rick Warren—CFR Puppet, "America's Pastor"

The CFR elite have assigned their religious stooge, Mr. Warren, the task of bringing Africa and many of the world's Muslims into the fold of Illuminism. Warren was recently trained by the CFR's neo-con Jews in residence at the Bush White House and was sent forth to Syria where he cuddled up with that nation's Moslem brotherhood and leadership.

Warren was also chosen by Jewish Zionist billionaire Rupert Murdoch to be given a full hour of praise in a special report entitled, "Can Rick Warren Change the World?" This video documentary, aired on Murdoch's neo-con Jew network, Fox-TV News, was a puff piece lauding Warren's ministry and especially his propagandistic African crusades.

Meanwhile, the Jewish-controlled media colluded to make Rick Warren's New Age classic book, The Purpose-Driven Life, a #1 New York Times bestseller.

SBC's Richard Land a Devoted Environmentalist

Dr. Richard Land, President of the Southern Baptists' Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, was chosen by the CFR elite for promotion after he proved to the Illuminati his base loyalty in two very key areas: (1) Zionism; and (2) Environmentalism. Richard Land, supposedly a religious conservative, strangely is a globalist associate of Jim Wallis, liberal darling and head of the Masonic-oriented Sojourners group.

Land is also an ardent Zionist and is joint backer with Falwell, Hagee, Vines and others, of Jewish and Israeli racist supremacism. He is the evangelicals' leading point man on environmentalism. Land essentially teaches that Jesus died on the cross to save Mother Earth and to save human souls. Land says that the Great Commission includes the preaching of environmentalism just as much as it does the traditional John 3:16 message.

The Illuminists love it when their Mother Earth Gospel is promoted by a neocon backer and Zionist advocate, Richard Land, who sits at the empire. At this time, Dr. Land, like some others whom the CFR has recruited, still preaches Jesus. But over time, it is expected that he and the SBC will moderate these exclusivist views to accommodate the new and approved CFR spiritual model of Unity and Diversity, a model that holds that Jesus is only one of many religious ways.

The Illuminati's CFR elite, with help from global servants like Warren and Land, has crafted a new gospel, a Global Spirituality. The new versions of the Bible are now quickly incorporating this new gospel message into their latest printings. Rick Warren uses quotes from these new versions, including the New Century Version and The Message, in his Purpose-Driven books.



In this issue of their influential journal, the Council on Foreign Relations announced its intention of using their chosen puppet leaders in the evangelical community to bring about their scheme of a united global order and an Occult Theocracy.

Everything is God: Core Teaching of the Global Spirituality


The Council on Foreign Relations, headquartered in the Harold Pratt House in New York City, has decided to use religion to manipulate the masses in the final drive for global domination and totalitarian rule.


Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, is a Jew.

The new gospel of CFR and its evangelical associates holds that "All Things Are One." Therefore, the Lord's Prayer, as quoted from the New Age Bible version, The Message, as found in Rick Warren's books, uses the well-known occultic phrase, "as above, so below." In the King James, we find a quite different rendition, the wording, "Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."

Every student of the occult instantly recognizes the motto, "as above, so below." This ancient occult formulation, taught from the days of the Egyptian/Greek god, Hermes, brings with it the doctrine that all things are One, that there is no God outside of us, that heaven and earth are now and have always been a unity, and that we, ourselves, are collectively "God." The earth is God, the stars are God, nature is God. All is One. All is Divine.

Of course, this is pantheism; it is classic Hinduism and New Age. This new gospel is of paramount significance to the Illuminati for it dethrones the external God. The new theology unites all deities and faiths. It refutes any conception of a separate heaven and hell. It sacrilizes and deifies planet earth, and it enthrones Man as God incarnate.

It is essentially the old lie spoken of in the Bible's book of Genesis, in which Lucifer promised a rebellious Adam and Eve, "Ye shall be as gods." It is the lie prophesied in 2 Thes. 2 to come to fullness in these last days, the lie in which the whole world will believe and be damned. It is the lie which is described by the Apostle Paul as the Strong Delusion. This lie represents the Great Apostasy, the falling away that was prophesied.

Occult Theocracy—The Mingling of Deities

Shortly after the turn of the twentieth century, Britain's Lady Queensborough authored a wonderfully descrïptive book that unmasked this perennially deceptive philosophy. She called it "Occult Theocracy," which she defined as a Luciferian combining, or mingling, of secret society and ancient religious dogma to produce a deadly ecumenical mixture that presents itself as a great and global danger.

Now come the new evangelicals, chosen as 21st century prophets of the Council on Foreign Relations, apostles of the gospel of Global Spirituality, in new shiny garb, fervently preaching this same, incredible, occult doctrine: As Above, So Below.

This Mystery Religion doctrine, "As Above, So Below," and its goal of the setting up of an Occult Theocracy is expressed symbolically (see Codex Magica) as the Masonic Lodge's black and white tiled floor and as Masonry's double-headed eagle; it can be seen in the form of the Roman religion's god, the two-faced Janus, as the Oriental Tao's yin and yang, and as the Jews' six-pointed Star of David, composed of two superimposed triangles. It represents the defiant threat of Lucifer who arrogantly boasted, "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God." (Isaiah 14:13)


The prime directive, or teaching, of the Illuminati’s new Global Spirituality is expressed in these four symbols.

Their Destiny is the Pit of Hell

Let the wicked rulers of the Illuminati and its Council on Foreign Relations who plot in secret take heed, and let their globalist religious puppets, Rick Warren, Richard Land and others take note. When Lucifer had finished making that idle boast, after he had blasphemously declared, "As Above, So Below," Isaiah, a mighty Prophet of God, immediately pronounced judgment on the Wicked One: "Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

And so it shall be for all who join themselves together as partakers of the ongoing Occult Theocracy. These disciples of evil will be recompensed for their unholy rebellion against God and against His anointed. "For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." (Ecclesiastes 12:14)    

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Théocratie Occulte: définition.  Mythologie Ancienne 1. Un mélange de plusieurs divinités ou des attributs divins dans une personnalité; aussi un mélange de divinités différentes.

Murray New English Dictionary

Traduction : Esther Chrétien

Ayant temporairement failli à inaugurer son nouvel ordre global par la force militaire, les Illuminati ont maintenant décidé de relâcher une puissance beaucoup plus grande dans sa poursuite des ses buts malfaisants et dictatoriaux : La puissance de la Spiritualité Globale.

Pour y parvenir, le principal organe politique et économique des Illuminati, le Conseil socialiste pro-Zioniste sur les Relations Étrangères (Council on Foreign Relations - CFR), a nommé, en tant que membres, deux agents clés - deux hommes qui sont à la tête des groupes Chrétiens évangéliques les plus influents d’Amérique.  Je réfère au Pasteur Rick Warren, du Saddleback Community Church en Californie, et au Dr. Richard Land, le potentat religieux régnant et la tête à claques de la Convention Baptiste Sudiste.



Le Conseil Illuminati du Foreign Relations (CFR) a enrôlé les services de ces évangélistes, le Pasteur Rick Warren (gauche) et Richard Land (droite) pour diriger des dizaines de millions de Chrétiens évangéliques dans une croisade globale ayant pour but de convertir l'humanité à la Nouvelle Spiritualité Globale.

Rick Warren, appelé le Pasteur d'Amérique par les médias contrôlés par les Illuministes, a à son actif plus de 100,000 assemblées et pasteurs qui ont signé leur allégeance à son Mouvement Nouvel Äge.  Pendant ce temps, on entend Richard Land sur plus de 600 stations radiophoniques et il est un conférencier important des conclaves Baptistes Sudistes.

Rick Warren  La Marionnette du CFR, le Pasteur d'Amérique

L'élite du CFR a assigné leur comparse religieux, M. Warren, pour la tâche d'mener l'Afrique et plusieurs Musulmans du monde dans les rangs des Illuminati.  Warren a récemment été entraîné par le néo-con Juif du CFR à la résidence de Bush, la maison Blanche, et a été envoyé en Syrie où il a fraternisé avec la fraternité et le leadership de cette nation Musulmane.

Warren a également été choisi par le milliardaire Juif Zioniste, Rupert Murdoch, à qui on a donné une heure pour louanger Warren au cours d'un reportage spécial intitulé, Est-ce que Rick Warren Peut Changer le Monde ?  Ce documentaire vidéo, diffusé sur les ondes radiophoniques néo-cons Juives de Murdoch, Fox-TV News, était une bouffonnerie pour prôner le ministère de Warren et spécialement ses croisades Africaines de propagande.

Pendant ce temps, le média d'information contrôlé par les Juifs a collaboré à faire du livre nouvel agiste classique de Rick Warren, The Purpose-Driven Live, un bestseller #1 du New York Times.

Richard Land du SBC un Environnementaliste Dévoué

Le Président du Southern Baptists Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (Commission Sudiste Baptiste sur l'Éthique et la Liberté Religieuse), le Dr. Richard Land, a été choisi par l'élite du CFR pour une promotion après qu'il ait prouvé aux Illuminati sa loyauté vile dans deux domaines importants : (1) le Zionisme; et (2) l'Environnementalisme.  Richard Land, supposément un conservateur religieux, est étrangement un globaliste associé à Jim Wallis, le chéri libéral et chef du Masonic-oriented Sojourners group (groupe ayant une orientation Maçonnique).

Land est également un ardent Zioniste et un partisan avec Falwell, Hagee, Vines et d'autres, du suprématisme raciste Juif et Israélien.  Il est l'évangéliste clé pour l'environnementalisme.  Land enseigne essentiellement que Jésus est mort sur la croix pour sauver la Mère Terre et pour sauver les âmes humaines.  Land dit que la Grande Commission comprend l'enseignement de l'environnementalisme tout autant que du traditionnel message de Jean 3:16.  

Les Illuministes aiment cela lorsque le partisan néo-con et défenseur Zioniste, Richard Land, fait la promotion de l'Évangile de la Mère Terre tout en siégeant sur son empire.  Pour le moment, le Dr. Land, tout comme d'autres qui ont été recrutés par le CFR, continue de prêcher Jésus.  Mais avec le temps, on s'attend à ce lui et le SBC vont modérer leurs points de vue exclusiviste pour accommoder le nouveau modèle spirituel d'Unité et de Diversité qui a été approuvé par le CFR, un modèle qui maintient que Jésus est seulement un chemin parmi plusieurs autres.

Avec l'aide des serviteurs globalistes comme Warren et Land, l'élite Illuminati CFR, a façonné un nouvel Évangile, la Spiritualité Globale.  Ce nouveau message évangélique a été rapidement incorporé dans les nouvelles versions de la Bible récemment imprimées.  Rick Warren utilise des citations de ces nouvelles versions, y compris la Version du Nouveau Siècle (New Century Version) ainsi que Le Message, dans ses livres Purpose-Driven.


Dans cette édition de leur journal d'influence, le CFR a annoncé son intention d'utiliser les leaders - qu'ils ont choisis pour être leurs marionnettes, - dans la communauté évangélique afin de réaliser leur plan pour un ordre d'unité globale et pour une Théocratie Occulte.

Tout est Dieu : Enseignement Central de la Spiritualité Globale



Dans un dernier effort pour la domination globale et le règne totalitaire, le CFR, dont le siège social est à New York au Harold Pratt House, a décidé d'utiliser la religion pour manipuler les masses.


Richard Haass, président du CFR, est un Juif.

Le nouvel évangile du CFR et ses associés évangéliques maintiennent que Toutes Choses Sont Une  Donc, la prière du Notre Père, telle que citée dans la version de la Bible du Nouvel Age et dans Le Message - que l'on retrouve dans les livres de Rick Warren, - utilisent la phrase occulte très bien connue, comme il en est dans les cieux, il en sera ainsi sur terre.  Dans la King James, nous trouvons une phraséologie bien différence : Que Ton Règne vienne. Que Ta Volonté soit faite sur terre, comme au ciel.  

Chaque étudiant de l'occulte reconnaît cette devise, comme il en est dans les cieux, il en sera ainsi sur terre.  Cette ancienne formulation occulte, enseignée à partir des jours du dieu Égyptien/Grec, Hermès, apporte avec elle la doctrine que toutes choses sont Une, qu'il n'y a pas de Dieu en dehors de nous, que le ciel et la terre sont maintenant et ont toujours été une unité, et que nous, nous-mêmes, sommes collectivement Dieu.  La terre est Dieu, les étoiles sont Dieu, la nature est Dieu, Tout est Un.  Tout est Divin.

Bien entendu, ceci est du panthéisme ; c'est de l'Hindouisme classique et du Nouvel Age.  Ce nouvel évangile a une gigantesque signification pour les Illuminati car elle détrône le Dieu externe.  La nouvelle théologie réunit toutes les divinités et les croyances.  Elle réfute toute idée d'un ciel et d'un enfer séparés.  Elle fait de la planète terre quelque chose de sacrée et de divin, et elle intronise l'Homme en tant que Dieu incarné.

C'est essentiellement le vieux mensonge dont parle la Bible dans Genèse, dans lequel Lucifer a promis aux rebelles Adam et Ève, 'Vous serez comme des dieux.  C'est le mensonge prophétisé dans 2 Thessaloniciens 2 qui s'accomplira entièrement dans les derniers jours, le mensonge dans lequel le monde entier croira et sera damné.  C'est le mensonge qui est décrit par l'Apôtre Paul comme étant la Grande Séduction.  Ce mensonge représente la Grande Apostasie, la grande perdition qui a été prophétisée.

Théocratie Occulte - Le Mélange de Divinités

Peu après le début du vingtième siècle, Lady Queensborough d'Angleterre a écrit un livre merveilleusement descriptif qui démasquait cette philosophie déceptive et persistante.  Elle l'a appelée la Théocratie Occulte, qu'elle définit comme étant une combinaison Luciférienne, ou mélange, de sociétés secrètes et de dogmes religieux anciens pour produire une mixture oecuménique mortelle qui se présente comme un danger énorme et global.

Voici maintenant qu'arrivent les nouveaux évangéliques, choisis comme prophètes du 21e siècle par le CFR, des apôtres de l'évangile de la Spiritualité Globale, dans un vêtement reluisant, prêchant avec ferveur la même doctrine incroyable et occulte :  Comme il en est dans les cieux, il en sera ainsi sur terre.

Cette doctrine de la Religion Mystérieuse, comme il en est dans les cieux, il en sera ainsi sur terre, et son but d'établir une Théocratie Occulte est symboliquement illustrée (voir Codex Magica) par le plancher à carreaux blancs et noirs et par l'aigle à deux têtes de la Franc-maçonnerie ; on peut le voir dans la forme du dieu de la religion Romaine, le Janus à deux faces, dans le yin et le yang du Tao Oriental, et dans l'Étoile de David à six pointes des Juifs, qui est composée de deux triangles superposés.  Elle représente la menace défiante de Lucifer qui se vante avec arrogance, Je monterai au ciel, J'élèverai mon trône au-dessus des étoiles de Dieu (Ésaïe 14 :13)




La principale directive, ou enseignement, de la nouvelle Spiritualité Globale des Illuminati est illustrée dans ces quatre symboles.

Leur Destinée est le Gouffre de l'Enfer

Que les dirigeants sataniques des Illuminati et du CFR qui complotent en secret fassent attention, et que leurs marionnettes globalistes religieuses, Rick Warren, Richard Land et les autres prennent note.  Lorsque Lucifer aura fini son bluff chimérique, après qu'il aura déclaré en blasphémant, Comme il en est dans les cieux, il en sera ainsi sur terre, Ésaïe, le puissant Prophète de Dieu, a immédiatement prononcé le jugement sur le Malin : Mais tu as été précipité dans le séjour des morts, dans les profondeurs de la fosse. (Ésaïe 14 :15)

Et il en sera ainsi pour tous ceux qui se joignent à eux pour participer à cette Théocratie Occulte.  Ces disciples du diable seront récompensés pour leur rébellion impure contre Dieu et contre Son Oint.  Car Dieu amènera toute oeuvre en jugement, au sujet de tout ce qui est caché, soit bien, soit mal. (Ecclésiastes 12 :14)

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Posté le: Jeu 8 Juil - 09:01    Sujet du message: CAN RICK WARREN CHANGE THE WORLD?

CAN RICK WARREN CHANGE THE WORLD?

by Sandy Simpson, 8/20/06

With the recent rash (and I use that word physically) of Rick Warren appearances all over the TV networks, touted as the man who is going to save the planet, I have finally reached my maximum saturation point.  I just want to address one statement that Warren made on Fox, though I could go into his appearances and what he taught in ultimate detail as I have in the past. But this one statement is more than enough to illustrate that Rick Warren is trying to change the world through his use of diaprax and his INCREDIBLE lack of discernment.

“I would trust a pastor or a rabbi of a synagogue or an imam of a Muslim mosque more then I would trust a government or NGO.” (Can Rick Warren Change the World? Fox Video – video time 2:15 Aug.19, 2006 Fox News).

Six points ...

(1) The title of the show on Fox was "Can Rick Warren Change the World?".  Rick Warren does not have a mandate from God to change the world.  Christians have a mandate to preach the Gospel and disciple all nations, being light and salt to the world.  We do NOT have a mandate to fix the problems of the world, to take over the NGOs of the world, nor should any Christian make that boast.  Yet Warren makes those boasts over and over again in a variety of ways. He is simply following the agenda of his mentor C. Peter Wagner who has been teaching this Latter Rain/Dominionist agenda to a whole generation of Fuller Seminary graduates like Warren, stating that Christians must "overthrow the governments" of the world.

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/dominionismexposed.html
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arise.html

(2) We are to place our trust in God, not in man.

(3) At this time in history Warren' ludicrous statement claiming we should "trust" Islamic Imams of any type is unconscionable.  Islamic Imams have taught a whole generation of Muslims to hate Israel and the West, to either convert or kill "infidels" in obedience to their false god and their false scrïpture, and who are raising funds for Islamo-fascists and hiding them in Mosques.

(4) The problems of bad governance and bad non government organizations (NGOs) PALE in comparison to the threat of the false religion called Islam in the world today.  Anyone who has studied their Bible knows this.  But Warren doesn't mention the Bible or Jesus Christ very often, and especially when he is on worldwide television programs.

(5) Rick Warren has NGOs of his own including PurposeDrivenLife.com and Saddleback, so does he not "trust" himself?

(6) Warren is really using the Hegelian Dialectic (diaprax) to try to persuade people that religion, apparently of ANY variety, has the answers to the problems of the world as opposed to governments and NGOs.  The problem is that God has instituted governments (Rom. 13:1) and we are to obey our leaders and the laws they uphold (Tit. 3:1).  What God has NOT instituted is the false religion of Islam.

The not-so-subtle message for people is that we all need to trust blowhards like Warren who come along with a quasi-relgious message, made palatable by Rick sticking his finger into the wind of public opinion. Warren publishes materials and establishes programs that cater to the "felt needs" of people, full of the self-esteem building messages he learned from his mentor Robert Schuller.  What came off in Warren's recent TV blitz was the size of his head (not literally, but figuratively this time) ... the man has an ego that just won't quit!

Men like Warren can cause true biblical Christians to become discouraged.  Why does God allow these men to prosper?

Look at Psalm 73.  When you despair because of the schemes of unfaithful, egotistical, and wicked men then realize that God is your strength and portion.  Those who have sold themselves for a buck will perish.  Those who ride the beast and bring the world into idolatry and harlotry will ultimately be judged.  Put your trust in Jesus Christ.  Be faithful to Him, declare His works (not those of Rick Warren) and the Lord will hold you in His right hand!

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/psalm73.html

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EVANGELICAL LEADERS ELEVATED TO ELITE STATUS AS MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE GLOBALIST SECRET SOCIETY

The Illuminati's Council on Foreign Relations has enlisted the services of evangelicals, Pastor Rick Warren (left) and Richard Land (right), to marshall tens of millions of evangelical Christians in a global crusade to convert humanity to the New Global Spirituality

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For the first time in the almost 100-year history of the CFR, evangelical leaders have been elevated to elite status as members of the exclusive globalist secret society. Their charge is to bring over 100 million Americans who are thought to be religious conservatives into the fold of the Illuminati and into the Big Tent of the emerging Zionist Global Order.

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Posté le: Jeu 8 Juil - 15:45    Sujet du message: RICK WARREN : PLAYING BOTH SIDES ON THE GAY AGENDA

RICK WARREN: PLAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE GAY AGENDA

Wednesday, April 2, 2008Is the gay agenda simply just another pawn in Rick Warren's global Purpose Driven PEACE Plan? As a Southern Baptist pastor, does Rick Warren sympathize with homosexuality or does he refute it?

Apparently, it depends on what country Rick Warren is promoting his Purpose Driven PEACE plan. Let's take a look at Rick Warren's geographically-driven position on homosexuality.

Rick Warren on homosexuality in Uganda:

Uganda: Gay Row -U.S. Pastor Supports Country On Boycott "The Church of England is wrong and I support the Church of Uganda(CoU) on the boycott", Dr Warren said on Thursday shortly after arriving in Uganda. The Bishops are protesting the Church of England's tolerance a homosexuality.

U.S. Megachurch Pastor Supports Ugandan Bishops' Lambeth BoycottPopular American pastor Rick Warren said recently that he supports the decision made by Ugandan bishops to boycott the landmark Anglican conference to be held later this year in England.

Rick Warren's geographically-driven position on homosexuality will serve him well since he is rolling out the Purpose Driven PEACE plan in Uganda.

Rick Warren on homosexuality in North America :

Are the Ugandan bishops aware of Rick Warren's North American position on homosexuality?

1997: Warren spoke at the "Schuller Institute For Successful Church Leadership" where 80+ gay/lesbians were in attendance.

2004: The Southern Baptist Convention votes for withdrawal from the The Gay Friendly Baptist World Alliance:

"We can no longer afford in this particular day, when the press for 'gay marriage' is on, to be in an alliance of any kind with denominations which support 'gay marriage' in any form or fashion." Paige Patterson told messengers during the Executive Committee's report at SBC annual meeting.

In response, Rick Warren told reporters at the Baptist World Alliance's Centenary Congress that the withdrawal of Southern Baptists from the BWA was a silly mistake. I see absolutely zero reason in separating my fellowship from anybody, he declared. Noting he has theological differences with many of the diverse denominations that invite him to speak, Warren added, That doesn't stop me from fellowshipping with them.

2007: Rick Warren's global AIDS conference refuses to address homosexuality and "gay" promiscuity as prime contributors to the spread of HIV. Warren fails to call those in the lifestyle to repent, and fails to lead them out with the Gospel.

From the CNW press release: Pro-Family Coalition Issues World AIDS Day Appeal to Rick Warren to Address Homosexuality and Gay Promiscuity in Effort to Stop Pandemic:

It is noble that Rick Warren cares so much for the Africans living 10,000 miles away from his church who are infected with AIDS. It is tragic, though, that he and others like him have not spoken out forcefully against the holocaust of homosexuality and the dozens of bathhouses in California where so many men are getting sick and dying.- James Hartline

Rick Warren's geographically driven position on homosexuality no doubt will find acceptance where ever he plants his global Purpose Driven PEACE flag. As long as alternate lifestyle advocates ignore Warren's duplicity, the gay agenda will be just another purpose driven pawn in Warren's quest to build the global faith sector.


http://watcherslamp.blogspot.com/2008/04/rick-warren-playing-both-sides-of-…

AUTRES LIENS SUR LE SUJET :5 Responses to Rick Warren Takes Aggressive Step Towards Embracing Homosexualityhttp://healtheland.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/rick-warren-takes-…


Interview With Rick Warren

http://transcrïpts.cnn.com/TRANscrïptS/0512/02/lkl.01.html  In Response To ... Rick Warren on the Bible

http://www.brucegourley.com/writings/inresponseto/rickwarrenbible.htm   
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Unless of course, that person is Obama, who, like Warren, opposes same-sex marriage. - (WRONG, THEY BOTH PUSH FOR THE GAY AGENDA - Maria)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/comment…

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Posté le: Jeu 8 Juil - 16:13    Sujet du message: RICK WARREN S'EXCUSE AUPRÈS DE SES AMIS HOMOSEXUELS.....

RICK WARREN S'EXCUSE AUPRÈS DE SES AMIS HOMOSEXUELS ET AFFIRME QU'IL N'AURAIT JAMAIS SOUTENU LE PROJET DE LOI ANTI MARIAGE GAY

NDLR: Rick Warren, chantre des églises "à bas seuil", s'est vu remettre les clefs d'un nombre considérable d'églises évangéliques en francophonie à travers sa campagne "40 jours pour l'essentiel". Celui qui a dit la prière de bénédiction lors de l'investiture d'Obama est étrangement libéral dans sa rétractation. On appréciera, dans la suite de l'article en anglais donné en lien, la remarque pertinente du pasteur méthodiste Jim Garlow: "Historiquement, quand des institutions ou des individus se rétractent de leurs convictions bibliques, c'est principalement pour des raisons de respectabilité. En d'autres termes, ils se soucient plus de ce que les gens pensent d'eux que de ce que Dieu pense d'eux." Ci-dessus, le message de Rick Warren 2 semaines avant le vote de la Proposition 8.

La pasteur de megachurch Californien Rick Warren a présenté ses excuses à ses amis homosexuels pour ses commentaires en faveur de la "Proposition 8". Il affirme maintenant n'avoir "jamais soutenu" l'amendement en faveur de l'institution du mariage.

En direct lundi dernier sur CNN dans l'émission de Larry King, le pasteur Warren s'est excusé pour son soutien de la Proposition 8 qui soumettait au vote des californiens la protection du mariage. Il a déclaré n'avoir "jamais été et ne pas être un activiste anti-homosexuel ou anti-mariage homosexuel".

Pourtant, 2 semaines avant le vote qui avait banni le mariage gay de Californie, Rick Warren avait fait une déclaration claire en faveur du mariage lors d'un message adressé aux membres de sa megachurch: "Nous soutenons la Proposition 8, et si vous croyez ce que la Bible dit sur le mariage, vous devez soutenir la Proposition 8".

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http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280 (en anglais)

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http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=rick+warren+prop+8      

http://www.blogdei.com/index.php/2009/04/10/4839-warren-s-excuse-homo

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RICK WARREN ON LARRY KING: CHANGES STATEMENTS ON HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE

April 8th, 2009 |  Author: Lighthouse Trails Editors  

California mega-church pastor and author of The Purpose Driven Life Rick Warren says he apologized to his homosexual friends for making comments in support of California's Proposition 8, and now claims he never once even gave an endorsement of the marriage amendment. from One News Now: Rick Warren disavows support for Prop. 8″

APRIL 2009  Rick Warren on Larry King discusses his previous endorsement of California's proposition against gay marriage.

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TONY BLAIR COURTS US PASTOR RICK WARREN IN BID TO UNITE FAITHS - DR. SCOTT JOHNSON

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RICK WARREN : A SHILL FOR TERROR



October 1st, 2010 |  Author: Miscellaneous News Source

FRONT PAGE MAGAZINE -A plethora of terror-related individuals surrounds the profile of Pastor Rick Warren on the “Speakers Corner” of the official website of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). He is fully aware of how he is being portrayed on the site (as this author has had correspondence with his office regarding the matter) but refuses to demand its deletion and offers no apology for its existence. Pastor Warren has become a shill for Islamic terror.

“As-salamu Alaykum. I come to you today deeply humbled and honored by this invitation. I truly mean that. I applaud your courage for inviting an Evangelical pastor. Thank you.” This was the opening statement of Rick Warren, the leading pastor of the influential Southern California Saddleback Church, as he stood in front of the attendees of ISNA’s 46th Annual Convention in July 2009.

He spoke these words as he stood at the podium emblazoned with ISNA’s logo, an image that, for many, is a symbol of terror and stealth jihad.

ISNA is an American arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. It was founded in 1981 by a group of individuals which included the North American leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) Sami al-Arian.

In 2007 and 2008, ISNA was named by the United States Justice Department as a willing participant in the financing of millions of dollars to Hamas. Click here to continue reading.

Related:

Serious Concerns Over Rick Warren’s Ecumenical Efforts with Islam
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=1003

WorldNetDaily on Mark Driscoll and Rick Warren: Growing trend to meet with Muslims rings alarm bells for some
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4439

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SERIOUS CONCERNS OVER RICK WARREN'S ECUMENICAL EFFORTS WITH ISLAM

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LTRP Note: The following is a link to a compilation of noteworthy articles regarding Rick Warren’s move toward uniting Christianity and Islam. It is also worth noting that the contemplative prayer movement, of which Rick Warren is a major proponent, embraces the notion that mysticism (i.e., contemplative) can unite all religions. Thomas Merton, the Catholic mystic, said that doctrine must be put aside and mysticism embraced in order to bring together the world’s religions. Rick Warren has often stated that his reformation will be one that emphasizes deeds over doctrine and that his reformation will include those of different faiths. This is also the mantra of the emerging church movement.

We have seen a marriage grow between false Christianity, all false religions, the political realm and all of society in the West in general, and now Rick Warren as its prophet is reaching out to Islam, but I highly doubt Islam will take hold. This whole idea is anathema to the true beliefs of Islam just as it is anathema to the true beliefs of Biblical Christianity.

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WORLDNETDAILY ON MARK DRISCOLL AND RICK WARREN : GROWING TREND TO MEET WITH MUSLIMS RINGS ALARM BELLS FOR SOME

May 5th, 2010 |
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By Michael CarlWorldNetDaily


Rick Warren promotes un-biblical interspirituality
 The effort among some Christian churches to meet with Muslims and dialogue about faith is a betrayal of the basic foundations of Christianity, asserts a critic of the developing trend.

 ”Useful idiots,” is how Christian talk show host and Muslim analyst Ingrid Schlueter assessed the participants in a recent interfaith dialogue session between the Acts 29 Network-affiliated Harambee Church and MAPS, the Muslim Association of Puget Sound, a group that has connections to the Washington state chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR.

WND previously reported an expert on the advance of radical Islam in the United States says the Muslim Brotherhood is effectively employing a strategy of presenting “Islam lite” to organizations, including Christian churches.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the Sunni transnational movement founded in Egypt in 1928 that has spawned most of the major terrorist movements in the world, including al-Qaida and Hamas. It’s aim is to make Islamic law supreme over the world.

The recent church plant, a spinoff of Seattle’s Mars Hill megachurch, recently started a series of interfaith dialogue meetings with MAPS. Schlueter said there are complications.

“Harambee Church is pastured by Michael Gunn, who was a former pastor at Mars Hill Church. When I saw that they had actually worked with CAIR to sponsor this event I was shocked and really horrified,” Schlueter said. “I know something of the background of CAIR. It’s very clearly a group with terrorist ties, so much so that the government won’t even work with them as of last year. They were named as unindicted co-conspirators in the Hamas funding case the government was investigating.

“I just couldn’t believe that a church would actually serve as a propaganda base in effect for this Muslim group, what many call a Hamas front group in an evangelical church,” Schlueter said.

A source in Washington state who is close to the Acts 29 Network says another reason the series of interfaith dialogues is a cause for concern is the Acts 29 Network's and Pastor Mark Driscoll's connections with Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren. The best-selling author of pastor of the Lake Forest, Calif., megachurch also is involved in interfaith dialogue, Schlueter said.
Driscoll has participated in conferences at Warren's Lake Forest, Calif., church and was listed as a speaker at Saddleback's Radicalis conference for youth in February.

Driscoll's assistant declined to forward WND messages to Driscoll's voice mail and recommended WND fill out a request on the church website to obtain comment. But Driscoll has not replied.

"It was April 20 when Rick Warren was at a Los Angeles synagogue with a group of imams and the rabbi from Temple Sinai. They were having an interfaith dialogue there," Schlueter said. "This is happening. Whether it's Mark Driscoll's Acts 29 churches or whether it's Rick Warren, this is a growing trend and it disturbs me," the Crosstalk host said.

She said an April 22 edition of Jewish Journal included a photograph of Warren in which he appeared to be wearing a Muslim prayer cap.
"When I see photos like this, I see the influence of Islam in the church has gone a lot further than we think," Schlueter said.
A spokesman from Warren's Texas-based publicity firm, A. Larry Ross Communications, said Warren was wearing an Ethiopian Jewish cap in the photo.

Observers said while that may be the case, it leaves a questionable impression.

A Massachusetts pastor who asked not to be identified said real interfaith dialogue means being who you are.

"In real interfaith dialogue, each person brings their distinctives to the dialogue. Warren's donning of the Muslim cap in the synagogue is compromise," the pastor said.

Schlueter says appearances are important.

"It still looks like a kufi or taqiya, the Muslim prayer cap. But it doesn't matter if it's a yarmulke or an Islamic prayer cap. The point is that because he's sitting with a group of imams, a lot of people will think it's a Muslim cap," Schlueter said.

"When you do interfaith dialogue, you be who you are. So why didn't he participate as an evangelical Christian? Why did he compromise and wear something that will bring confusion?" Schlueter asked.

It was a year ago when Warren addressed the Islamic Society of North American convention, explaining he wanted to promote interfaith cooperation.
"I am not interested in interfaith dialogue but interfaith projects. As the two largest faiths on this planet – more than 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians – as Muslims and Christians, we must believe in this. As more than half the world, we must do something to model what it is to live in peace, to live in harmony," Warren said in his ISNA speech.

Not all Christian leaders are alarmed by the developments. Harambee Church associate pastor Michael Ly, who's also the vice president of Peace Catalyst International, said the event was primarily to build relationships.

Ly said the event focused on discussing the two faith's perspectives on who Jesus is, but its purpose wasn't specifically aimed at evangelism.

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"The event was to make more friends in the community and we have many neighbors who are our neighbors. There are as many as 75,000 to 100,000 Muslims in the Seattle-Puget Sound area. They're our neighbors," Ly said.

Ly said that CAIR officials didn't actually speak at the event, but were instrumental in helping organize it.

He said Washington state CAIR chapter president Arsalan Bukhari introduced him to the MAPS Redmond leader, "but from that point on, wasn't super heavily involved in organizing the event.""But Arsalan helped get the Qurans we used," Ly said.

Calls and e-mails asking for comment on this story from Bukhari's office have not been returned.

Ly said the event was successful, and he maintains that the dialogue session achieved its objectives and opens the door for future evangelism opportunities.


"There were a lot of new friendships made between Muslims and Christians who were at the event. We're going to continue to have ongoing dialogues with the MAPS Muslim community as well as ongoing dialogues about Jesus and other parts of our respective faiths with other Muslim communities through the Seattle area," Ly said.

Leaders of the Acts 29 Network and Warren aren't alone in their satisfaction with the trend toward interfaith dialogue.

Former Michigan Rep. Mark Siljander recently published "A Deadly Misunderstanding: A Congressman's Quest to Bridge the Muslim-Christian Divide." He's also the founder of the Virginia lobbying firm Global Strategies.

Siljander said the Harambee Church's actions and others like it are a positive step.

"I'm very encouraged. As a believer myself, I'm very distraught over the strategy, not theology, applied by most Christians toward Islam.

Outspoken Christians like Franklin Graham and others have caused tremendous and unnecessary gulfs between Christians and Muslims," Siljander said.

Graham recently was banned by the military from appearing at a National Day of Prayer event at the Pentagon because of his criticism of Islam's violence.

"Most Christians for the most part, the outspoken ones, will criticize Islam, their book and their prophet and say, 'Let's sit down and talk about Jesus.' Needless to say, that doesn't work," Siljander said.

"In the book that's been out 14 months now, I say that we discovered that if you sit down with not only a respectful attitude, with Muslims, their holy book, their prophet and the culture, and do so with the enthusiasm about the person of Jesus, we find that the Holy Spirit will take hold and bring the conversation where He wants it to take," Siljander said.

Schlueter, however, calls such meetings simply propaganda tools for radical Islam.

"Evangelical Christians are not seeing the false concept first of all of the interfaith services, where we share our view about Jesus and then the Muslims share their view about Jesus, is completely alien to the example in Acts chapter two," Schlueter said.

"The apostles got up and preached Christ crucified, the hope of the world. What we're seeing now is 'let's sit down and talk about your view about of this and let's watch how you pray with your prayer rug and we'll show you how we pray as Christians and we'll all go away and have some tea and cookies.' That's not evangelism," she said.

"We're not calling for hatred or intolerance or anything of that nature. But I do believe it is wrong for Christians to go knocking on the door of a local mosque or local CAIR office and say we'd like to have a Muslim official come to our church and we’ll sit and talk," Schlueter said.

"What they're doing is being useful idiots for propaganda purposes by CAIR with its terrorist ties and effort to promote Islam within the United States, the rule of Islam and the promotion of shariah law. If Christians are not going to be more discerning than that they are serving as useful idiots and promoting a doctrine that is counter to the Gospel of Jesus Christ," she said.

Pamela Geller publishes Atlas Shrugs, which along with Robert Spencer's Jihad Watch, reports on developments of Islam in the West.
Geller said any CAIR involvement should be of concern for a Christian.

"CAIR is a Hamas front, an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas funding case. Hamas is a jihad terrorist group. Several former CAIR officials are now in prison for terrorist activities. The FBI won't work with CAIR anymore, and is in fact investigating CAIR," Geller explained.
Geller also makes the tie between CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood.

"The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has called CAIR the Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S. CAIR's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood were, in fact, entered in evidence in the Holy Land terror trial. The Muslim Brotherhood's stated goal is one world living under Islamic law," Geller said.

CAIR headquarters in Washington


"The Quran teaches that Christians are under Allah's curse for teaching that Jesus is the Son of God. The Muslim call to prayer calls Muhammad a messenger of Allah, and Muhammad taught that Christianity was just a twisted version of Islam. So what were the leaders of Harambee church thinking? What do the leaders of the Harambee church think of the worldwide persecution, oppression and subjugation of Christians living in Muslim lands?" Geller asked.

"By working with Hamas-tied CAIR, and letting the Muslim call to prayer sound in their church, they're showing their weakness and ignorance of the Islamic jihad program to conquer and subjugate Christians and other non-Muslims. They have submitted. They're cutting their own throats, and aiding their own worst enemies," Geller said.

P. David Gaubatz and Paul Sperry write in their WND book "Muslim Mafia" that Muslims want to Islamize Jesus.

They report the training manual for CAIR includes information about Jesus.

Among the materials CAIR distributes in its outreach efforts in the U.S. is the book "Jesus: Prophet of Islam" by Mohammad Ata-ur-Rehman and Muslim convert Ahmad Thomson. CAIR also launched a $60,000 advertising campaign on Florida buses with the message Jesus was a Muslim. The signs read: 'ISLAM: The Way of Life of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad."

One Islamic expert who formerly worked with the U.S. government on terror said Muslims even use the writings of disaffected Christian.

"Muslims are making use of Bart Ehrman's commentaries on the New Testament, books that now deny the authority of the New Testament and portray Jesus as simply a man," he said. "You will never hear a Muslim say that Jesus is the Son of God."

Related Information on Interspirituality:
Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God?
CrossTalk Calls Mark Driscoll and Liberty University To Task for Compromising the Faith
UK Observer: “Blair courts controversial US pastor Rick Warren in bid to unite faiths”
Christians, Muslims, Jews Worship at Evangelical Megachurch
23 UK schools ditch Christian school assemblies for Islamic or interfaith worship

+ 2 AUDIOS : http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4439 and http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=149893

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RICK WARREN'S "APOLOGETICS" WEEKEND SHOULD APOLOGIZE FOR REPRESENTING "ANOTHER GOSPEL"


Eight years after the release of The Purpose Driven Life and numerous efforts by discerning Christian believers to warn others of this movement, the Saddleback Apologetics Weekend unveils  more clearly than ever the spiritual direction toward which the evangelical church is racing . . .

In September 2009,
Rick Warren held his first Apologetics Weekend conference at Saddleback Church. The conference featured some known apologists such as Norman Geisler and Gary Koukl. (It also included contemplative teacher J.P. Moreland.) The conference was a surprise to some who have followed with discernment the teachings and promotions of Rick Warren over the last decade-it seemed out of place for someone who had promoted the emerging church, contemplative prayer, and kingdom-on-earth-now beliefs to be presenting an "apologetics" conference. No doubt, some assumed that Rick Warren was changing his ways. Just a month prior, at the annual Harvest Crusade by Greg Laurie, Chuck Smith (founder of Calvary Chapel) stood in front of thousands and introduced Rick Warren who was sitting on the platform as his "good friend,"  inviting him to lead the audience in prayer (see video). Just three years earlier, Chuck Smith denounced the Purpose Driven teachings as incompatible with Calvary Chapel teachings and dropped Warren's book from the Calvary Chapel book distribution.


Between the Harvest Crusade and the Apologetics Weekend at Saddleback, both in 2009, it's no wonder some people were thinking Rick Warren and the Purpose Driven movement were now coming into alignment with traditional evangelical thought. But no evidence showed that Warren's focus or direction had actually changed. And one year after the 2009 Saddleback Apologetics Weekend, the 
2nd Annual Apologetics Weekend took place and has provided the proof (once again) that Rick Warren's Purpose Driven movement is indeed going down a path that is contemplative, emerging, and even on a ecumenical road to "Rome." The title of the 2010 "Apologetics" conference was "Who is Jesus?" We believe that the "Jesus" represented at this conference is another Jesus with another gospel, as we will show in this article (2 Corinthians 11:4, Galatians 1:8).


Seeing this year's Apologetics Weekend speaker lineup was even a surprise for Lighthouse Trails. Not because we thought Warren's choice of speakers was contrary to what he believes but because it seemed so blatant and obvious.


This report will focus on three of the speakers at Saddleback's 2010 Apologetics Weekend conference: Philip Yancey, Peter Kreeft, and Scot McKnight. By the time readers finish reading this article, we think you may agree that Rick Warren's  Apologetics conference should really be titled: "Rick Warren's Emerging Contemplative Road to Rome Apologetics Weekend."


Christianity Today editor-at-large,
Philip Yancey, has been the subject of a number of Lighthouse Trails articles for his strong propensity toward contemplative prayer as well as his public statements regarding the homosexual lifestyle. Last week we posted an article about Yancey's upcoming speaking engagement with the "Gay Christian Network."  Roger Oakland addresses some of Yancey's views in Faith Undone (p. 215):



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In 2004, Philip Yancey accepted an interview with Candace Chellew-Hodge for Whosoever, "an online magazine for Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, and Transgendered Christians." When Chellew-Hodge asked Yancey about his views on gays and lesbians in the church, Yancey answered:



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"When it gets to particular matters of policy, like ordaining gay and lesbian ministers, I'm confused, like a lot of people. There are a few-not many, but a few-passages of Scripture that give me pause. Frankly, I don't know the answer to those questions."


My question to Yancey and other proclaiming Christian leaders is why don't you know the answer? The Bible is clear on this matter . . . part of being a Christian is accepting God's Word and trusting that it is truly just that. Yancey may not be an emergent leader, but his beliefs certainly fit with emerging spirituality. The following statement he [Yancey] makes shows he shares a similar disregard for biblical doctrine:


"Perhaps our day calls for a new kind of ecumenical movement: not of doctrine, nor even of religious unity, but one that builds on what Jews, Christians, and Muslims hold in common. . . . Indeed, Jews, Christians, and Muslims have much in common." (source)






Yancey is not just causing confusion over the sinfulness of practicing homosexuality, but he is a strong advocate for contemplative mystical spirituality as well. In his 2006 book (with a 2010 edition with the same basic components), Prayer: Does it Make Any Difference, there is a who's who of mystical prayer and panentheist references some of which are Thomas Merton, goddess worshipper Sue Monk Kidd, Henri Nouwen, Evelyn Underhill, Kenneth Leach, Meister Eckhart, Teresa of Avila, The Cloud of Unknowing, Francis de Sales, Richard Rohr (referring to him as a "theologian - p. 205), and Anne Lamott-not to mention emerging innovators such as Phyllis Tickle, Jurgen Moltmann, and Walter Brueggemann. Yancey frequently references Thomas Merton in the book and recommends his readers turn to Merton (p. 337) and David Steindl-Rast (p. 338) for spiritual guidance. Yancey must have read these authors for he not only recommends them but also quotes from their books. This is not guilt by association but rather guilt by promotion. We could give you almost countless examples of what these authors believe, but let us just briefly look at a few quotes.

In Ray Yungen's book, A Time of Departing, he discloses that: "David Steindl-Rast once asked Thomas Merton what role Buddhism played in his going deeper into the spiritual life. Merton replied quite frankly: "I think I couldn't understand Christian teaching the way I do if it were not in the light of Buddhism" (The Dawn of the Mystical Age, Tuoti, p. 127, ATOD, p. 140).

Even more disturbing is Steindl-Rast's view of the atonement of Christ:



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Unfortunately, over the course of the centuries, this [Christianity] has come to be presented in almost legal language, as if it were some sort of transaction, a deal with God; there was this gap between us and God, somebody had to make up for it-all that business. We can drop that. The legal metaphor seems to have helped other generations. Fine. Anything that helps is fine. But once it [the atonement] gets in the way, as it does today, we should drop it. (The Ground We Share, p. 45)





And lastly, we give you this quote by another Yancey author, Richard Rohr: 


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The term "cosmic Christ" reminds us that everything and everyone belongs. . .  God's hope for humanity is that one day we will all recognize that the divine dwelling place is all of creation. Christ comes again whenever we see that matter and spirit co-exist. (source)





It's not just that these authors who Yancey resonates with are individually bad-it's their collective movement that is bad. This is the same movement that Yancey clearly seems attracted to.  This is the very reason Lighthouse Trails exists, not to slam people but to warn them where the contemplative, emerging movement will take them-ultimately away from the message of the Cross.

If you are unfamiliar with some of these names we have mentioned in this article, type them into the Lighthouse Trails search engine - what you find will be another "gospel" that is universalistic, mystical, socialistic, and interspiritual. Quoting one of Merton's biographers, Yungen recounts a scenario which reveals Merton's view on the relationship between God and man:



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During a conference on contemplative prayer, the question was put to Thomas Merton: "How can we best help people to attain union with God?" His answer was very clear: We must tell them that they are already united with God. "Contemplative prayer is nothing other than 'coming into consciousness' of what is already there." (from Brennan Manning's book, The Signature of Jesus, p. 211)




Ray Yungen explains: "Merton was referring here to his pure glory-of-God-in-everybody worldview. He is not just speaking of Christians. His universalism elsewhere repudiates that fact" (ATOD, p. 83).

For Rick Warren to feature Philip Yancey at an "apologetics" conference gives another green light to the panentheistic contemplative prayer movement and the emerging theology that goes hand in hand. According to Webster's dictionary, the word "apologetics"  is "a branch of theology devoted to the defense of the divine origin and authority of Christianity" (i.e., a defense of the biblical Christian faith).


Scot McKnight, one of the other speakers at Rick Warren's conference,  is also part of the emerging spirituality. Roger Oakland speaks of McKnight in Faith Undone. What Oakland shows here illustrates the "road to Rome" views of those in the emerging/contemplative church:



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McKnight, another emerging church influencer, was professor of religious studies at North Park University and on the Coordinating Group for Emergent Village. Of the emerging church, he stated:



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"As a theologian, I have studied the movement and interacted with its key leaders for years-even more, I happily consider myself part of this movement or "conversation." As an evangelical, I've had my concerns, but overall I think what emerging Christians bring to the table is vital for the overall health of the church." ...


In referring to an Anglican service, McKnight speaks of the Eucharistic focus. He stated:





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"[T]he point of an Anglican gathering on a Sunday morning is not to hear a sermon but to worship the Lord through the celebration of the Eucharist.... First some scripture readings and then the sermon and then some announcements and then the Eucharist liturgy with everyone coming forward to kneel and participate-publicly-in the body and blood."





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McKnight said that "the Eucharist profoundly enables the grace of God to be received with all its glories and blessings" (Turning to Jesus, p. 7). No doubt, McKnight has had an impact on those in the emerging church movement, and his views on the Eucharist will rub off. (Faith Undone, pp. 136-137)






In McKnight's books Embracing Grace: A Gospel for All of Us (with an endorsement by Brian McLaren on the front cover and McLaren references within) and in his book A Community Called Atonement, McKnight doesn't necessarily reject penal substitutionary atonement (as does McLaren) but says there are many ways of viewing atonement, likening it to golf clubs-using different ones for different purposes (Prologue).  Worth noting, McKnight's Atonement book was published by the emerging publishing partnership of Abingdon Press and Emergent Village. McKnight is seen by the emerging church as someone who represents it.  And McKnight's website and his books confirm this with numerous favorable references on these issues. In his book Jesus Creed, he recommends a variety of books by contemplative advocates including Gary Thomas' book, Sacred Pathways, where he instructs readers to repeat a word for twenty minutes (which is mantric like meditation) and several other authors of whom we have already mentioned in this article. One of the books McKnight recommends is Eternal Wisdom from the Desert: Writings from the Desert Fathers. St. Anthony is one of the desert fathers featured in that book.  Contemplative teacher, Willigis Jager disclosed the following:


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Christian literature makes reference to many episodes that parallel the experiences of those going a yogic way. Saint Anthony, one of the first desert mystics, frequently encountered strange and sometimes terrifying psychophysical forces while at prayer. (Jager, Contemplation: A Christian Path, p. 72)




What is being described here is the Kundalini experience that can happen during mantric-like episodes. While McKnight does not come right out in his books and recommend practicing this, he recommends those who do. What we consider McKnight to be is a "bridger," someone who claims orthodoxy but is actually being used as a bridge between orthodoxy and a dangerous  mystical practice.

Lastly, this article will focus on Peter Kreeft, one of the other "apologetic" teachers at Saddleback this past fall. Kreeft was a  Dutch Reformed Protestant who converted to Catholicism. He is considered by many to be a leading apologist of the Catholic faith. Kreeft embraces wholeheartedly the doctrinal elements that have traditionally split Catholics and Protestants such as the validity of the devotion to Mary and the validity of the Catholic sacraments. In his book, Ecumenical Jihad, he states the following:



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Now I see that God prefers to work through intermediaries-Mary and the saints . . . He wants us to pray through Mary and not only directly. (p. 154)[Mary] may bring the churches together again and heal the tears in her Son's visible body on earth, she, the very one who seems to divide Catholics from Protestants. The most distinctive Catholic doctrines, especially those concerning the Eucharist and Mary, may prove to be the most unifying and attracting ones. (p. 158)





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Consecrate your life to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. She is the one who will win this war. She is the one (as the Bible says) who triumphs over Satan.  (p. 169 - parenthesis in original)






In Faith Undone, Roger Oakland explains Kreeft's predictions of the plans of the Catholic church to bring in a eucharistic, mystical  "Christ" whom the world will worship. Oakland states:


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What if the Eucharistic Jesus that Catholics worship and adore miraculously started healing those who adored his presence? Wouldn't this be a strong draw to those yet outside the Catholic Church? And as Boston College professor and meditation proponent Peter Kreeft predicted in his book Ecumenical Jihad, Eucharistic adoration will have a powerful ecumenical, interspiritual effect. He says "the power that will reunite the [Catholic] Church and win the world is Eucharistic adoration. (FA, pp. 141-142)




For readers who do not understand the significance of the papacy's efforts to win back the lost brethren (Protestants) to the Mother of all churches (Rome) through the Eucharistic "Christ" and the new evangelization plan, please read Roger Oakland's powerful expose, Another Jesus (we have several excerpts free on our site).

In addition to Kreeft's absolute commitment to the Catholic Church's Eucharistic "Christ" and the role of Mary, he is a proponent of contemplative spirituality as well. Kreeft was one of the speakers in the
Be Still DVD, the infomercial for contemplative prayer, with Beth Moore and Richard Foster. As with most, if not all, long-term contemplative proponents, Kreeft's interspiritual propensities are illustrated in his writings. In Ecumenical Jihad, he says that it is "very likely" that within the Hindu and Muslim faiths there is a "hidden Christ" (p. 156). Quoting the late panentheist and interspiritualist Raymond Pannikar ("the apostle of inter-faith dialogue"), Kreeft gives credence to Pannikar's cosmic christ that Pannikar believed exists in all people. Kreeft believes that if all the religions of the world can come together in unity (and in adoration of the Immaculate [without sin] Mary), then the ills of the world can be healed. Remembering something Rick Warren said about four years ago in referring to a "second reformation in the church" helps one to understand why Warren resonates with Kreeft enough to invite him as an apologist:



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The man of peace is open and influential ... and here's the other thing, the man of peace does not have to be a Christian believer, could be Muslim, could be Jewish. (Interview with Charlie Rose - 29:00 min. mark)




Yancey, McKnight, and Kreeft - apologetics for the biblical Christian faith? Based on what we have just shown here, how would you answer that question? Apparently, these are not important issues to Rick Warren though. Rick Warren told Larry King once that his goal in life is to bring about a new reformation. But the reformation Warren has defined over and over is ecumenical, contemplative, and emerging. Obviously, he considers Yancey, McKnight, and Kreeft fellow defenders of the faith. But we must ask ourselves, what faith is Rick Warren defending?

In a SoJourner's magazine article (see *below) Philip Yancey once stated that he was surprised at how much he had gotten away with in the evangelical church. We wonder if Rick Warren may be saying the same thing these days.  We beseech Christian leaders who have  helped further the Purpose Driven movement through their public adherence to step up to the plate and say, "I Was Wrong. I was wrong to promote him. I was wrong to be silent when I did finally realize the truth." Is it really that difficult for Christian leaders to see the direction that Rick Warren has been going all along? Leaders, pastors, teachers, are you going to continue linking arms with "America's Pastor" who is clearly drawing closer and closer to a spirituality that the likes of David Steindl-Rast would embrace? Or will you choose to hold fast to the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Will you please men or will you be the servant of Christ? 



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I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Galatians 1:6-10




Notes:* Philip Yancey: "I myself have been surprised at what I can get away with. When I sent off the manuscript of What's So Amazing About Grace? I said to my wife, Janet, "That's probably the last book I'm going to write for the evangelical market." It's got a whole chapter on Mel White, who's now a gay activist, and it's got a whole chapter on Bill Clinton, who's not the most favored president of evangelicals." Sojourner Magazine  "Sex, Lies and Living on the Evangelical Edge

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RICK WARREN'S NEW HEALT AND WELLNESS INITIATIVE COULD HAVE PROFOUND REPERCUSSIONS ON MANY               


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January 11, 2011   
Dear Maria,  In view of the recent violent tragedy in Tuscon, Arizona, Lighthouse Trails wants to reiterate: The purpose of our critiques is in no wise intended to be vitriolic or hateful or to inspire hateful acts against those we write about. We deplore violent, cruel, and unjust acts against any person or groups of persons. Our purpose is to challenge those who are considered to be the leaders of the Christian church in the area of doctrine as it relates to the defense of the Christian faith and the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the Bible puts forth." Rick Warren's New Health and Wellness Initiative Could Have Profound Repercussions on Many"
Just ten days after Lighthouse Trails posted its last and most important article of 2010, Rick Warren’s “Apologetics” Weekend Should Apologize for Representing “Another Gospel,” we must issue this Special Report regarding a year-long event that will be kicking off at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church on January 15th.
Near the end of 2010, Rick Warren announced that Saddleback Church would be entering "a Decade of Destiny." He told his congregation that they would be focusing on several key areas, one of them being "health and wellness." The "Daniel Challenge" or the "Daniel Plan" is Saddleback's new health "initiative."  On Saddleback's website, it states: 



 Gods’ Prescription For Your Health   
 Be a part of this transformational debut to be a healthier you!   
The kick-off event is next weekend, January 15. We’ll hear from world-renowned doctors on a plan to get healthy and stay that way in the new decade.   
Who are the "world-renowned doctors" that will be helping to kick off Saddleback's Decade of Destiny? Dr. Mehmet Oz, Dr. Daniel Amen, and Dr. Mark Hyman. The video on the website states that this program has been "Exclusively Designed for Saddleback Church by Three of the Leading Health Specialists in America."Let us get right to the point: The three doctors who have put together a 52-week health program for Saddleback congregants are absolute advocates and proponents of not just eastern-style meditation but actual eastern meditation and much much more as this article will reveal. Right off, let us say that if you are thinking perhaps that these doctors will only advise Saddleback on legitimate health advice (exercise, healthy eating, etc.) take a look at this video (taken place at Saddleback) between Rick Warren and Dr. Daniel Amen. Amen intends to help Saddleback participants to have good "brain health," which he firmly believes comes from meditation. In this video, he openly discusses meditation with Rick Warren.What are the spiritual underpinnings of the meditation these three doctors are propagating? This report will lay it out for you.Dr. Amen, founder of Amen Clinics, is the author of over 25 books. He teaches techniques that will improve "brain health," claiming that poor brain health is associated with a host of problems from overeating to depression. As Dr. Amen describes in the video you just saw, he includes meditation (and in fact this is his primary tool) as a way to have a healthy brain.
It is the nature of this meditation that sets Dr. Amen apart from any other individual that Lighthouse Trails has ever written about concerning Rick Warren. In a 6-CD set called Create a More Passionate Night,  Dr. Amen has teamed up with advanced certified Tantra educator, T. J. Bartel. It is important that you visit Bartel's website to better understand the nature of what he stands for. By the way, when you hear Bartel say "Namaste," this means the god in me bows down to the god in  you. We have discussed tantric sex in a number of  Lighthouse Trails articles in the past, such as one called What's Sex Got to Do with It?" Please refer to this article if you are unfamiliar with this spiritual practice. In essence, Tantra or tantric sex is the use of Hinduistic-type mysticism during sexual intercourse. Please listen to what Ray Yungen has to say about Tantra and the serious implications of it:


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Tantra is the name of the ancient Hindu sacred texts that contain certain rituals and secrets. Some deal with taking the energies brought forth in meditation through the chakras and combining them with love-making to enhance sexual experiences.Once completely off-limits to the masses of humanity, Tantra, like all other New Age methodologies, is now starting to gain increasing popularity. . . . The potential to impact a very great number of people, especially men, was brought out in an article by a sex workerwho incorporates “Tantric Bodywork” into her services. . . .  she has turned to Tantric Union to give her clients what she feels is not just sex but “union with the divine.” . . .  Now the “multitudes of men” who come to her get much more than they bargained for. In the past, wives and girlfriends needed only to worry about sexually transmitted diseases from cheating husbands and boyfriends, but now their men may instead bring home spiritual entities! (For Many Shall Come in My Name, Yungen, pp. 115-116)




We are sorry to be so frank - but we must - we are dealing with Rick Warren,  "America's Pastor" and one of the most, perhaps the most, influential evangelical leaders today. And in just a few days, he will be starting a 52-week health program that has been designed by Dr. Amen, a tantric sex activist! Dr. Amen expresses his strong feelings about tantric in his book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Body:

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In my book, The Brain in Love, I wrote about Tantric sexual practices, and was fascinated by the concept . . .  I wanted to experience it for myself and thought it would be a wonderful way to enhance my relationship with my wife, Tana. . . .  T.J. Bartel . . . became our teacher . . . I felt as if I had to share his knowledge with everyone I knew." (p. 283)



Everyone he knows? Will that include Rick Warren, Saddleback Church, and even overflow to thousands of Purpose Driven churches? That could potentially be millions of people. On the video interview with Rick Warren and Dr. Amen, Warren states that Dr. Amen's resources would be available for those attending the seminar this coming weekend. In almost all of the "resources" by  Dr. Amen, he  advocates eastern meditation. In some of the books, he devotes many many pages to meditation practices. On page 238 of Amen's Making a Good Brain Great, he states: "I recommend an active form of yoga meditation called Kriya Kirtan. It is based on the five primal sounds saa, taa, naa, maa, aa." He tells readers to repeat these sounds for 12 minutes straight.Many of you have heard of New Age leader Eckhart Tolle, whose 2008 book A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose was highly popularized by Oprah. Tolle stated that the book's purpose was to bring about a "shift in consciousness" (pp. 6-7). In his earlier book, The Power of Now, he speaks of  this "consciousness," what he considers a christ-consciousness:  


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Christ is your God-essence or the Self, as it is sometimes called in the East. The only difference between Christ and presence is that Christ refers to your indwelling divinity regardless of whether you are conscious of it or not, whereas presence means your awakened divinity or God-essence. (p. 104)



For more on Eckhart Tolle and the great awakening that New Agers seek after for the planet, read Warren B. Smith's 4-part article, " The Great Heretical Idea: Oprah and Eckhart Do the New Age Shift." Dr. Daniel Amen talks about Tolle's The Power of Now in his book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Body, calling Tolle's book "extraordinary."Dr. Amen's meditation technique of choice is Kriya Kirtan, as we stated above. This is a form of kundalini yoga (see his book,The Brain in Love, p. 146). Those who have studied with discernment the New Age, know that kundalini (or serpent power) is the spiritual "energy" behind meditation. Ray Yungen explains the relationship between kundalini and the chakras:


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The chakras act as conduits or conductors for what is called kundalini or serpent energy. They say this force lies coiled but dormant at the base of the spine like a snake. When awakened during meditation, it is supposed to travel up the spine activating each chakra as it surges upward. When the kundalini force hits the crown chakra, the person experiences enlightenment or Self-realization. This mystical current results in the person knowing himself to be God. That is why kundalini is sometimes referred to as the divine energy. According to New Age proponents, all meditative methods involve energy and power, and the greater the power, the greater the experience. (FMSC, pp. 76-77)



Dr. Mark Hyman, one of the three doctors who "designed" the "Daniel Challenge" for Saddleback , is another strong advocate for mystical meditation. In his book, The Ultramind Solution, Hyman emphasizes meditation, saying that it doesn't matter what religion one has to benefit from it (p. 322). Dr. Hyman suggests that "Mindful meditation is a powerful well-researched tool, developed by Buddhists" (p. 384). On the front cover of The Ultramind Solution, sits an endorsement by Dr. Mehmet Oz, the third doctor who will be training Saddleback on health.Anyone who watches daytime television, in particular Oprah, will know the name Dr. Oz, a highly renowned cardiovascular surgeon.  It was Oprah who featured him on her show for five years, making him a household name, which eventually led to his own television show, one of the most popular shows on television. 
Last February, Lighthouse Trails posted a piece titled "Dr. Oz Tells Millions of Americans: 'Try Reiki!'" In January 2010, Dr. Oz brought a Reiki master onto his show to demonstrate Reiki and then ended the show saying,  “try Reiki” as the #1 “Oz’s Order.” It would make sense that Dr. Oz would tell his viewers to try Reiki - his wife is a Reiki practitioner. One press release related:


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Reiki Masters across America and the world had cause for celebration on January 6 when Dr. Mehmet Oz revealed his Ultimate Alternative Medicine Secrets for 2010 during his nationally broadcast afternoon talk show. He ranked Reiki #1. Dr. Oz said, “Reiki is one of my favorites, we’ve been using it for years in the Oz family, and we swear by it.”



As Lighthouse Trails has documented for years, Reiki is a type of "energy healing" that is based on the New Age chakra system and puts those practicing it into contact with the realm of familiar spirits. If this sounds far fetched, listen to what one Reiki master wrote in the Everything Reiki Book:

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During the Reiki attunement process, the avenue that is opened within the body to allow Reiki to flow through also opens up the psychic communication centers.  This is why many Reiki practitioners report having verbalized channeled communications with the spirit world. (cited in A Time of Departing, p. 97)



Recently, we posted a YouTube video that describes the spiritual consequences of practicing Reiki. The person doing the video told the story of one woman, who after practicing Reiki came into contact with 35 spirit guides, and she was unable to rid herself of them. They told her they would be with her forever. If you have not yet viewed this 10 minute video, it is imperative that you do. Reiki is a catalyst  or channel, as stated earlier, into the spirit world. This is not a silly, nonsensical ritual with no meaning. This is serious stuff!How serious? Consider this: A book titled The Instruction written by Ainslie MacLeod, is described by the publisher as the following: 


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Have you ever sensed that your life has a deeper, more meaningful purpose--but don't know what it is? If so, you're not alone. To help you and the millions like you, psychic Ainslie MacLeod's spirit guides have given him a systematic approach to uncovering who you really are--and the life your soul has planned for you. They call it The Instruction. Now, for the first time, this unique teaching is offered as a step-by-step program for realizing personal fulfillment. The Instruction will take you through ten "doorways" to unveil the life plan your soul created before you were even born.



In the  foreword written by MacLeod, he says the "purpose of the book is to understand the coming shift in consciousness that is poised to sweep the planet. This transformation will affect everyone of us in some way." This book, which is given by spirit guides and lays out the basic foundation for the New Age impressed Dr. Oz so much that he wrote an endorsement for the front cover. He stated:   "I recommend this book to those who seek greater spiritual well-being and a better understanding of their life's purpose." Dr. Oz's endorsement is also on the front cover of MacLeod's 2010 book, The Transformation: Healing Your Past Lives to Realize Your Soul's Potential,where he exclaimed: "Ainslie MacLeod is at the frontier of exploration into the soul and its profound influence on our physical selves."Make no mistake about it - Reiki, meditation, tantric sex - these are very powerful mystical experiences that have the capability to delude and deceive those who are involved with it. While many of the health ideas these three doctors share in their books and DVDs are legitimate (exercise, vitamins, and good diet, etc.), these doctors firmly believe in meditation and want to make it widely accepted and embraced and have interwoven this belief into their programs. As Dr. Amen admitted himself, he wants to tell everyone he knows about meditation. Rick Warren and Saddleback are in danger as could be the millions who Rick Warren influences.
We urge all discerning believers to contact their own pastors  and any other pastors or leaders they know to warn them about what is taking place in the name of wellness and fitness in the church. We urge you also to contact ministries who have, in one way or another, either through consent or silence, supported the "new" spirituality that is trying to enter the church and tell them where it leads.  The wellness and fitness aspect of this is just another face of this whole movement that is impacting our entire culture.
 In this plea, consider what Roger Oakland stated at the end of Faith Undone:


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There are still pastors and churches dedicated to proclaiming the truth. Find out where they are and support them. If you are in a location where this does not seem to be possible, seek out materials that are available from solid Bible-based Christian ministries and hold Bible studies in your homes.When Jesus returns, He will not find a utopian world filled with peace but one in shambles, unrest, violence, and war for having forsaken the Word of God, the true Gospel, and the One true God. Rather than being a time when He will praise the world for discovering its christ-consciousness, He will come as a Judge and powerful King (p. 230).




Let us hold fast to the truth, and in considering the fact that compromising our spiritual health and wellness is never the right avenue to physical wellness, remember the words Paul spoke to the Romans. He did not tell them to entertain spirit guides, practice mantra meditation, yoga, or Reiki. This was his instruction to believers: 

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 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12: 1-2 



As important as physical health may be, we must remember that our bodies are only temporal. Yes, we should take care of them, but in the process we should not do as Esau did and sell out our spiritual heritage for a bowl of pottage.
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RICK WARREN TEAMS UP WITH SWEDENBORG CULT FOLLOWER DR. OZ

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Contact: Christian Investigator, 608-469-7956

MADISON, Wis., Jan. 13, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- On January 15, Rick Warren will kick-off a 52-week Daniel Plan to become healthier with Dr. Mehmet Oz, a follower of cult leader Emmanuel Swedenborg.

According to Warren's website, his church will host a 52-week course to stress losing weight and becoming healthier. The kick-off event will include Dr. Mehmet Oz, Dr. Daniel Amen, and Dr. Mark Hyman. All three have Eastern spiritual connections.

Dr. Mehmert Oz is a follower of Emmanuel Swedenborg according to The New Church website. He has appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and is Professor of Cardiac Surgery at Columbia University.

He is inspired by Emmanuel Swedenborg, a cult leader who died in 1772 in Sweden. Swedenborgianism has up to 50,000 members worldwide according to the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website. They deny the atonement, the trinity, and the deity of the Holy Spirit.

They believe all religions lead to God and that Christianity must go through a rebirth. Also, they do not believe in a personal devil. They believe the Bible is not inspired and that when people die, they become an angel or an evil spirit.

Emmanuel Swedenborg had a vision in 1745 where he supposedly saw creatures crawling on the walls. He believed God then appeared to him as a man and told him that he would be the person to promote the new teachings to the world.

The other two speakers are Dr. Daniel Amen and Dr. Mark Hyman. Dr. Amen teaches tantric sex, a Hindu mystical approach to sex. He teaches Eastern religion meditation and energy-based Reiki, a New Age practice. Dr. Mark Hyman promotes mystical meditation based on Buddhist principles.

Christian Investigator President Steve McConkey says, "It is troubling for a top pastor in the United States to promote false teachers. We are living at an all-time low spiritually in the United States with weak leaders. We need to teach basic Bible principles without legalism."

Steve McConkey is the President/Founder of 4 WINDS which offers the news/apologetics site ChristianInvestigator.com (CI). Also, CI produces articles that are distributed worldwide on important issues. CI is the first news/apologetics site offered by a sports ministry. Steve and his wife have been in world-class track and field ministries since 1981. 4 WINDS was started in 1988 and encourages athletes to grow in their Christian faith.

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DR. AMEN, RICK WARREN'S WEIGHT LOSS DOCTOR, PUSHES MEDITATION AND TANTRIC SEX

It's all old pagan practices and the same spirit of demons.

MADISON, Wis., Jan. 25, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- Rick Warren kicked of his weight loss Daniel Plan on January 15. He plans to lose 90 pounds in 2011. Three doctors helped him kick off the program . One of the doctors was Dr. Daniel Amen.

Dr. Daniel Amen promotes false meditation and tantric sex. (In our first news release, "Rick Warren Teams up with Swedenborg Cult Follower Dr. Oz," we mistakenly said he promoted Reiki. That was an editing error.)

From Dr. Amen's blog, he said, "My favorite form of meditation is called Kirtan Kriya...I'm going to shut my door and meditate. If you want to join me, here's how you do it. This twelve-minute meditation involves chanting the following simple sounds -- "saa" "taa" "naa" "maa" -- while doing repetitive finger movements."

Kirtan Kriya is a meditation chant exercise originating from Kundalini Yoga. Kirtan Kriya involves chanting and using finger poses. This simple exercise is supposed to allow a person to relax.

Dr. Amen says he is a Christian. It is troubling that a doctor would promote false meditation. The Bible outlines how we are to pray while meditating on Bible passages.

Christian Investigator President Steve McConkey states, "Every year, new teachers come up with something new and put a Christian label on the new thing. It is as if they believe the Bible's instruction on mental health is deficient."

Dr. Amen, an Oral Roberts University School of Medicine graduate, and Tantric sex expert TJ Bartel produced a six CD series called "Create More Passion Tonight."

According to TJ Bartel's website, "This course will give you the underlying neuroscience of intimate connection, mixed with the ancient Tantra art of healing...suggestions on what you can do right now to improve your lovemaking skills."

Tantric sex is taught in Buddhism and Hinduism. Tantric gurus educate and prepare couples to have meaningful sex by supposedly harnessing and maximizing personal energy for better sex.

Steve McConkey believes Christians are embracing a dangerous practice in Tantric sex, "The Bible gives good advice for sex. Read the Song of Solomon. Is the Bible deficient?"

Steve McConkey is the President/Founder of 4 WINDS which offers the news/apologetics site Christian Investigator (CI). Also, CI produces articles that are distributed worldwide on important issues. CI is the first news/apologetics site offered by a sports ministry. See
www.ChristianInvestigator.com which was re-done last week.

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Contact: Christian Investigator, 608-469-7956

MADISON, Wis., Jan. 13, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- On January 15, Rick Warren will kick-off a 52-week Daniel Plan to become healthier with Dr. Mehmet Oz, a follower of cult leader Emmanuel Swedenborg.

According to Warren's website, his church will host a 52-week course to stress losing weight and becoming healthier. The kick-off event will include Dr. Mehmet Oz, Dr. Daniel Amen, and Dr. Mark Hyman. All three have Eastern spiritual connections.

Dr. Mehmert Oz is a follower of Emmanuel Swedenborg according to The New Church website. He has appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and is Professor of Cardiac Surgery at Columbia University.

He is inspired by Emmanuel Swedenborg, a cult leader who died in 1772 in Sweden. Swedenborgianism has up to 50,000 members worldwide according to the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website. They deny the atonement, the trinity, and the deity of the Holy Spirit.

They believe all religions lead to God and that Christianity must go through a rebirth. Also, they do not believe in a personal devil. They believe the Bible is not inspired and that when people die, they become an angel or an evil spirit.

Emmanuel Swedenborg had a vision in 1745 where he supposedly saw creatures crawling on the walls. He believed God then appeared to him as a man and told him that he would be the person to promote the new teachings to the world.

The other two speakers are Dr. Daniel Amen and Dr. Mark Hyman. Dr. Amen teaches tantric sex, a Hindu mystical approach to sex. He teaches Eastern religion meditation and energy-based Reiki, a New Age practice. Dr. Mark Hyman promotes mystical meditation based on Buddhist principles.

Christian Investigator President Steve McConkey says, "It is troubling for a top pastor in the United States to promote false teachers. We are living at an all-time low spiritually in the United States with weak leaders. We need to teach basic Bible principles without legalism."

Steve McConkey is the President/Founder of 4 WINDS which offers the news/apologetics site ChristianInvestigator.com (CI). Also, CI produces articles that are distributed worldwide on important issues. CI is the first news/apologetics site offered by a sports ministry. Steve and his wife have been in world-class track and field ministries since 1981. 4 WINDS was started in 1988 and encourages athletes to grow in their Christian faith.

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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:35 (2011)    Post subject: RICK WARREN : A SHILL FOR TERROR Reply with quote

RICK WARREN: A SHILL FOR TERROR



October 1st, 2010 |  Author: Miscellaneous News Source FRONT PAGE MAGAZINE -A plethora of terror-related individuals surrounds the profile of Pastor Rick Warren on the “Speakers Corner” of the official website of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). He is fully aware of how he is being portrayed on the site (as this author has had correspondence with his office regarding the matter) but refuses to demand its deletion and offers no apology for its existence. Pastor Warren has become a shill for Islamic terror.

“As-salamu Alaykum. I come to you today deeply humbled and honored by this invitation. I truly mean that. I applaud your courage for inviting an Evangelical pastor. Thank you.” This was the opening statement of Rick Warren, the leading pastor of the influential Southern California Saddleback Church, as he stood in front of the attendees of ISNA’s 46th Annual Convention in July 2009.

He spoke these words as he stood at the podium emblazoned with ISNA’s logo, an image that, for many, is a symbol of terror and stealth jihad.

ISNA is an American arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. It was founded in 1981 by a group of individuals which included the North American leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) Sami al-Arian.

In 2007 and 2008, ISNA was named by the United States Justice Department as a willing participant in the financing of millions of dollars to Hamas. Click here to continue reading.

Related:

Serious Concerns Over Rick Warren’s Ecumenical Efforts with Islam
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=1003

WorldNetDaily on Mark Driscoll and Rick Warren: Growing trend to meet with Muslims rings alarm bells for some

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4439

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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:38 (2011)    Post subject: AGENDA WARREN : CHRISLAM Reply with quote



CHRISTIANS – Did you know they are putting Qurans in church pews now?



This weekend, the Memorial Drive Presbyterian Church in Houston along with Christian communities in Atlanta, Seattle, and Detroit will initiate a series of sermons that have been designed to produce an ecumenical reconciliation between Christianity and Islam.

Paul L Williams, PhD, The Last Crusade http://thelastcrusade.org/2010/11/04/chrislam-spreads-throughout-america/



In addition to the sermons, the Sunday school lessons will center on the inspired teachings of the Prophet Mohammad. Qurans will be placed in the pews next to the Bibles.



The concept of Chrislam, now embraced by such preachers as Rick Warren and Robert Schuller, appears to have emerged from a program on the meaning of “love your neighbor” at Grace Fellowship Church in Atlanta, Georgia

“In 2001, like most Americans, we were pretty awakened to the true Islamic presence in the world and in the United States,” says Jon Stallsmith, the outreach minister at Grace Fellowship. “Jesus says we should love our neighbors. We can’t do that without having a relationship with them.”

Stallsmith maintains that a rapprochement between Muslims and Christians can be achieved by the fact that Jesus is mentioned twenty-five times in the Quran.

The Chrislam movement has gained impetus by statements from President George W. Bush and that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the same God and by Rick Warren’s reference to Isa (the Muslim name for Jesus) in his prayer at the inauguration of President Barack Obama.

Only 30 percent of Americans have a favorable view of Muslims, according to a Pew Forum poll. At the same time, more than half the country says they know “not very much” or “nothing at all” about the Islamic faith.

“The recent political developments and the fact that we’re fighting two wars in Muslim countries should sharpen that need to know how to talk to these guys,” Stallsmith insists “We want to find peace, reconciliation around a scrïptural understanding of Jesus.”



Jesus in the Quran is neither the only-begotten Son of God nor the Messiah who was divinely appointed to restore the House of David. He is rather viewed as a prophet who was appointed by Allah to prepare mankind for the coming of Mohammad.

In the Quran, Jesus neither suffers nor dies on the cross but is rather raised alive into heaven:
“That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of God”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, God raised him up unto the himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise” (4: 157-158)

The victim at Calvary, Islam teaches, was either Simon of Cyrene or Judas Iscariot.

The Quran mentions that Jesus was born of the virgin Maryam – – not by an immaculate conception but rather the will of Allah and that He performed miracles to show the Jewish people that He was a maseh in the manner of Moses and Ibrahim (Abraham):

“In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every – one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things” (5:17).

Belief in the divinity of Jesus is condemned in Islam as shirk (filth).

I find this shocking and hope my Christian readers will weigh in on this.



It gets even worse, folks. I will post a few excerpts from this American Thinker article on De-facto Sharia Law in America by Janet Levy but you should read the whole thing at the link below:
De-facto Sharia Law in America H/T Talking2Much

Is the United States today a de facto shariah state? A close look at recent events points to some alarming conclusions about the tenets of shariah law taking hold in our once-proud constitutional republic and the unwitting, unequal application of existing U.S. laws. The result is that when it comes to religious expression, Muslims now enjoy more freedom of religion and speech under our Bill of Rights than non-Muslims. Equal protection under the laws of our country holds for Muslims far better than for non-Muslims. Several recent examples illustrate this point.

Christianity Suppressed


In July, students visiting the Supreme Court from an Arizona Christian school were stopped by police as they bowed their heads and quietly prayed for the justices. The students were standing outside the court building to the side at the bottom of the building steps. They weren’t blocking traffic, but an officer abruptly approached them and ordered them to stop praying immediately.


Four Christians were arrested in June for disorderly conduct at the Dearborn Arab International Festival after handing out copies of the Gospel of John. The four had stationed themselves five blocks from the festival and did not actively approach anyone, but instead waited for others to approach them. Still, police officers confiscated their video cameras and led the four Christians away in handcuffs to shouts of “Allah hu Akbar” from Muslim bystanders.
In direct contrast to the above incidents, which limit Christian prayer and expression, numerous examples exist of special accommodations for Muslim activities and religious practices. These indicate an adherence to a separate and distinct policy for Muslims that mirrors the supremacist requirements of shariah law.

Islam Accepted

In the State of California, 7th-grade students at Excelsior Middle School in Discovery Bay, California adopted Muslim names, prayed on prayer rugs, and celebrated Ramadan under a state-mandated curriculum that requires instruction about various religions. In 2006, the U.S. Supreme Court again declined to hear legal challenges by concerned Excelsior parents, who complained that the instruction was actually religious indoctrination and that Christianity and Judaism were not given equal time and exposure. The curriculum has been upheld as appropriate multicultural material.

After Carver Elementary School in San Diego absorbed Muslim students from a defunct charter school in September 2006, a special recess was provided for the students to pray, classes were segregated by gender, and pork was removed from the school menu. A teacher’s aide at the school led children in prayer and was provided with a lesson plan allotting an hour of class time for Islamic prayer.

In May, students at a Wellesley, Massachusetts middle school visited a local radical mosque and participated in a prayer session. Parents, who gave signed permission for students to visit the mosque, were not informed in advance that students would also be bowing to Allah and listening to lectures on Islam.

Over the last few years, the University of Michigan, a taxpayer-funded school, has provided separate prayer rooms and ritual foot baths, requiring bathroom modifications costing over $100,000, for Muslim observances.

At Minneapolis Community and Technical College, where religious displays, including those for Christmas, have been strictly prohibited, foot-washing facilities are being installed using taxpayer dollars.

Muslims periodically block the streets of New York City, prostrating themselves in the middle of roadways and sidewalks undisturbed by police and other authorities.

These special accommodations for Muslims effectively elevate the Islamic faith above that of Christians and Jews, reinforcing the message of the Koran — “Allah proclaims Islam over all other religions” (48:28), “Islam will dominate other religions” (9:33), and “Islam does not coexist with other faiths” (5:51). Muslims are required by the teachings of their faith to conquer and subjugate non-Muslims and Ensure worldwide submission to Islam — “The believers must make war on infidels around them and let the infidels find firmness in them” (9:123).


Censure of Non-Muslims
Further, the First Amendment, free-speech rights of non-Muslims are being curtailed amidst the demands of Muslims who operate under few constraints. While non-Muslims are self-censoring out of fear and being shut down by authorities, Muslims enjoy almost unfettered rights to speak out.
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Freedom of Speech for Muslims
Whereas Norris was forced to enter a witness-protection program in response to a fatwa against her, Islamic leaders enjoy unlimited freedom to spread their messages of hate within the United States. Some even receive protection at taxpayer expense, as did Feisal Abdul Rauf, an Egyptian-American Sufi imam who plans to build a mosque at Ground Zero.
Rauf is closely associated with the Muslim Brotherhood and Muslim Brotherhood organizations, endeavors to supplant U.S. law with shariah, and refuses to condemn jihadist groups and terrorism. In addition, he refused to sign a pledge revoking the mandatory death sentence for Muslim apostasy, has encouraged U.S. government officials to negotiate with the terrorist group Hamas, and blames the United States for 9/11. Imam Rauf, who created the Shariah Index Project, which rates countries around the world on shariah compliance, has said that he believes in shariah supremacy.
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Islamization of America
We are witnessing a transformation of American society in which Islam enjoys a privileged place among the country’s religions. The sensitivities of the country’s 3 to 5 million Muslims are considered above those of non-Muslims. Non-Muslims even assist sensitive Muslims in the weeding out of potentially offensive statements or actions that could be remotely critical of Islam or Muslims. Since 9/11, Americans have been well-trained not to talk about Islam and terrorism or to use the word “jihad.” Publicly criticizing, voicing concern about, or even expressing fear about Muslim behavior or activities is forbidden. While other religions may be freely criticized, lampooned in cartoons, and denigrated by artwork, Islam is sacred, supreme, and beyond reproach.
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December 30, 2010

This is our last Special Report for 2010. It may be the most important article we have written all year. It is long and detailed, but we hope you will take the time to read it. Please consider distributing it to those in your own mailing lists who may be interested in the welfare of the church today.  

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RICK WARREN'S "APOLOGETICS" WEEKEND SHOULD APOLOGIZE FOR REPRESENTING "ANOTHER GOSPEL"

Eight years after the release of The Purpose Driven Life and numerous efforts by discerning Christian believers to warn others of this movement, the Saddleback Apologetics Weekend unveils  more clearly than ever the spiritual direction toward which the evangelical church is racing . . .

In September 2009, Rick Warren held his first Apologetics Weekend conference at Saddleback Church. The conference featured some known apologists such as Norman Geisler and Gary Koukl. (It also included contemplative teacher J.P. Moreland.) The conference was a surprise to some who have followed with discernment the teachings and promotions of Rick Warren over the last decade-it seemed out of place for someone who had promoted the emerging church, contemplative prayer, and kingdom-on-earth-now beliefs to be presenting an "apologetics" conference. No doubt, some assumed that Rick Warren was changing his ways. Just a month prior, at the annual Harvest Crusade by Greg Laurie, Chuck Smith (founder of Calvary Chapel) stood in front of thousands and introduced Rick Warren who was sitting on the platform as his "good friend,"  inviting him to lead the audience in prayer (see video). Just three years earlier, Chuck Smith denounced the Purpose Driven teachings as incompatible with Calvary Chapel teachings and dropped Warren's book from the Calvary Chapel book distribution.

Between the Harvest Crusade and the Apologetics Weekend at Saddleback, both in 2009, it's no wonder some people were thinking Rick Warren and the Purpose Driven movement were now coming into alignment with traditional evangelical thought. But no evidence showed that Warren's focus or direction had actually changed. And one year after the 2009 Saddleback Apologetics Weekend, the 2nd Annual Apologetics Weekend took place and has provided the proof (once again) that Rick Warren's Purpose Driven movement is indeed going down a path that is contemplative, emerging, and even on a ecumenical road to "Rome." The title of the 2010 "Apologetics" conference was "Who is Jesus?" We believe that the "Jesus" represented at this conference is another Jesus with another gospel, as we will show in this article (2 Corinthians 11:4, Galatians 1:8).

Seeing this year's Apologetics Weekend speaker lineup was even a surprise for Lighthouse Trails. Not because we thought Warren's choice of speakers was contrary to what he believes but because it seemed so blatant and obvious.

This report will focus on three of the speakers at Saddleback's 2010 Apologetics Weekend conference: Philip Yancey, Peter Kreeft, and Scot McKnight. By the time readers finish reading this article, we think you may agree that Rick Warren's  Apologetics conference should really be titled: "Rick Warren's Emerging Contemplative Road to Rome Apologetics Weekend."

Christianity Today editor-at-large, Philip Yancey, has been the subject of a number of Lighthouse Trails articles for his strong propensity toward contemplative prayer as well as his public statements regarding the homosexual lifestyle. Last week we posted an article about Yancey's upcoming speaking engagement with the "Gay Christian Network."  Roger Oakland addresses some of Yancey's views in Faith Undone (p. 215):

In 2004, Philip Yancey accepted an interview with Candace Chellew-Hodge for Whosoever, "an online magazine for Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual, and Transgendered Christians." When Chellew-Hodge asked Yancey about his views on gays and lesbians in the church, Yancey answered:

"When it gets to particular matters of policy, like ordaining gay and lesbian ministers, I'm confused, like a lot of people. There are a few-not many, but a few-passages of scrïpture that give me pause. Frankly, I don't know the answer to those questions."

My question to Yancey and other proclaiming Christian leaders is why don't you know the answer? The Bible is clear on this matter . . . part of being a Christian is accepting God's Word and trusting that it is truly just that. Yancey may not be an emergent leader, but his beliefs certainly fit with emerging spirituality. The following statement he [Yancey] makes shows he shares a similar disregard for biblical doctrine:

"Perhaps our day calls for a new kind of ecumenical movement: not of doctrine, nor even of religious unity, but one that builds on what Jews, Christians, and Muslims hold in common. . . . Indeed, Jews, Christians, and Muslims have much in common." (source)

Yancey is not just causing confusion over the sinfulness of practicing homosexuality, but he is a strong advocate for contemplative mystical spirituality as well. In his 2006 book (with a 2010 edition with the same basic components), Prayer: Does it Make Any Difference, there is a who's who of mystical prayer and panentheist references some of which are Thomas Merton, goddess worshipper Sue Monk Kidd, Henri Nouwen, Evelyn Underhill, Kenneth Leach, Meister Eckhart, Teresa of Avila, The Cloud of Unknowing, Francis de Sales, Richard Rohr (referring to him as a "theologian - p. 205), and Anne Lamott-not to mention emerging innovators such as Phyllis Tickle, Jurgen Moltmann, and Walter Brueggemann. Yancey frequently references Thomas Merton in the book and recommends his readers turn to Merton (p. 337) and David Steindl-Rast (p. 338) for spiritual guidance. Yancey must have read these authors for he not only recommends them but also quotes from their books. This is not guilt by association but rather guilt by promotion. We could give you almost countless examples of what these authors believe, but let us just briefly look at a few quotes.

In Ray Yungen's book, A Time of Departing, he discloses that: "David Steindl-Rast once asked Thomas Merton what role Buddhism played in his going deeper into the spiritual life. Merton replied quite frankly: "I think I couldn't understand Christian teaching the way I do if it were not in the light of Buddhism" (The Dawn of the Mystical Age, Tuoti, p. 127, ATOD, p. 140).

Even more disturbing is Steindl-Rast's view of the atonement of Christ:

Unfortunately, over the course of the centuries, this [Christianity] has come to be presented in almost legal language, as if it were some sort of transaction, a deal with God; there was this gap between us and God, somebody had to make up for it-all that business. We can drop that. The legal metaphor seems to have helped other generations. Fine. Anything that helps is fine. But once it [the atonement] gets in the way, as it does today, we should drop it. (The Ground We Share, p. 45)

And lastly, we give you this quote by another Yancey author, Richard Rohr:  

The term "cosmic Christ" reminds us that everything and everyone belongs. . .  God's hope for humanity is that one day we will all recognize that the divine dwelling place is all of creation. Christ comes again whenever we see that matter and spirit co-exist. (source)

It's not just that these authors who Yancey resonates with are individually bad-it's their collective movement that is bad. This is the same movement that Yancey clearly seems attracted to.  This is the very reason Lighthouse Trails exists, not to slam people but to warn them where the contemplative, emerging movement will take them-ultimately away from the message of the Cross.

If you are unfamiliar with some of these names we have mentioned in this article, type them into the Lighthouse Trails search engine - what you find will be another "gospel" that is universalistic, mystical, socialistic, and interspiritual. Quoting one of Merton's biographers, Yungen recounts a scenario which reveals Merton's view on the relationship between God and man:

During a conference on contemplative prayer, the question was put to Thomas Merton: "How can we best help people to attain union with God?" His answer was very clear: We must tell them that they are already united with God. "Contemplative prayer is nothing other than 'coming into consciousness' of what is already there." (from Brennan Manning's book, The Signature of Jesus, p. 211)

Ray Yungen explains: "Merton was referring here to his pure glory-of-God-in-everybody worldview. He is not just speaking of Christians. His universalism elsewhere repudiates that fact" (ATOD, p. 83).

For Rick Warren to feature Philip Yancey at an "apologetics" conference gives another green light to the panentheistic contemplative prayer movement and the emerging theology that goes hand in hand. According to Webster's dictionary, the word "apologetics"  is "a branch of theology devoted to the defense of the divine origin and authority of Christianity" (i.e., a defense of the biblical Christian faith).

Scot McKnight, one of the other speakers at Rick Warren's conference,  is also part of the emerging spirituality. Roger Oakland speaks of McKnight in Faith Undone. What Oakland shows here illustrates the "road to Rome" views of those in the emerging/contemplative church:

McKnight, another emerging church influencer, was professor of religious studies at North Park University and on the Coordinating Group for Emergent Village. Of the emerging church, he stated:

"As a theologian, I have studied the movement and interacted with its key leaders for years-even more, I happily consider myself part of this movement or "conversation." As an evangelical, I've had my concerns, but overall I think what emerging Christians bring to the table is vital for the overall health of the church." ...

In referring to an Anglican service, McKnight speaks of the Eucharistic focus. He stated:

"[T]he point of an Anglican gathering on a Sunday morning is not to hear a sermon but to worship the Lord through the celebration of the Eucharist.... First some scrïpture readings and then the sermon and then some announcements and then the Eucharist liturgy with everyone coming forward to kneel and participate-publicly-in the body and blood."

McKnight said that "the Eucharist profoundly enables the grace of God to be received with all its glories and blessings" (Turning to Jesus, p. 7). No doubt, McKnight has had an impact on those in the emerging church movement, and his views on the Eucharist will rub off. (Faith Undone, pp. 136-137)

In McKnight's books Embracing Grace: A Gospel for All of Us (with an endorsement by Brian McLaren on the front cover and McLaren references within) and in his book A Community Called Atonement, McKnight doesn't necessarily reject penal substitutionary atonement (as does McLaren) but says there are many ways of viewing atonement, likening it to golf clubs-using different ones for different purposes (Prologue).  Worth noting, McKnight's Atonement book was published by the emerging publishing partnership of Abingdon Press and Emergent Village. McKnight is seen by the emerging church as someone who represents it.  And McKnight's website and his books confirm this with numerous favorable references on these issues. In his book Jesus Creed, he recommends a variety of books by contemplative advocates including Gary Thomas' book, Sacred Pathways, where he instructs readers to repeat a word for twenty minutes (which is mantric like meditation) and several other authors of whom we have already mentioned in this article. One of the books McKnight recommends is Eternal Wisdom from the Desert: Writings from the Desert Fathers. St. Anthony is one of the desert fathers featured in that book.  Contemplative teacher, Willigis Jager disclosed the following:

Christian literature makes reference to many episodes that parallel the experiences of those going a yogic way. Saint Anthony, one of the first desert mystics, frequently encountered strange and sometimes terrifying psychophysical forces while at prayer. (Jager, Contemplation: A Christian Path, p. 72)

What is being described here is the Kundalini experience that can happen during mantric-like episodes. While McKnight does not come right out in his books and recommend practicing this, he recommends those who do. What we consider McKnight to be is a "bridger," someone who claims orthodoxy but is actually being used as a bridge between orthodoxy and a dangerous  mystical practice.

Lastly, this article will focus on Peter Kreeft, one of the other "apologetic" teachers at Saddleback this past fall. Kreeft was a  Dutch Reformed Protestant who converted to Catholicism. He is considered by many to be a leading apologist of the Catholic faith. Kreeft embraces wholeheartedly the doctrinal elements that have traditionally split Catholics and Protestants such as the validity of the devotion to Mary and the validity of the Catholic sacraments. In his book, Ecumenical Jihad, he states the following:

Now I see that God prefers to work through intermediaries-Mary and the saints . . . He wants us to pray through Mary and not only directly. (p. 154)

[Mary] may bring the churches together again and heal the tears in her Son's visible body on earth, she, the very one who seems to divide Catholics from Protestants. The most distinctive Catholic doctrines, especially those concerning the Eucharist and Mary, may prove to be the most unifying and attracting ones. (p. 158)

Consecrate your life to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. She is the one who will win this war. She is the one (as the Bible says) who triumphs over Satan.  (p. 169 - parenthesis in original)

In Faith Undone, Roger Oakland explains Kreeft's predictions of the plans of the Catholic church to bring in a eucharistic, mystical  "Christ" whom the world will worship. Oakland states:

What if the Eucharistic Jesus that Catholics worship and adore miraculously started healing those who adored his presence? Wouldn't this be a strong draw to those yet outside the Catholic Church? And as Boston College professor and meditation proponent Peter Kreeft predicted in his book Ecumenical Jihad, Eucharistic adoration will have a powerful ecumenical, interspiritual effect. He says "the power that will reunite the [Catholic] Church and win the world is Eucharistic adoration. (FA, pp. 141-142)

For readers who do not understand the significance of the papacy's efforts to win back the lost brethren (Protestants) to the Mother of all churches (Rome) through the Eucharistic "Christ" and the new evangelization plan, please read Roger Oakland's powerful expose, Another Jesus (we have several excerpts free on our site).

In addition to Kreeft's absolute commitment to the Catholic Church's Eucharistic "Christ" and the role of Mary, he is a proponent of contemplative spirituality as well. Kreeft was one of the speakers in the Be Still DVD, the infomercial for contemplative prayer, with Beth Moore and Richard Foster. As with most, if not all, long-term contemplative proponents, Kreeft's interspiritual propensities are illustrated in his writings. In Ecumenical Jihad, he says that it is "very likely" that within the Hindu and Muslim faiths there is a "hidden Christ" (p. 156). Quoting the late panentheist and interspiritualist Raymond Pannikar ("the apostle of inter-faith dialogue"), Kreeft gives credence to Pannikar's cosmic christ that Pannikar believed exists in all people. Kreeft believes that if all the religions of the world can come together in unity (and in adoration of the Immaculate [without sin] Mary), then the ills of the world can be healed. Remembering something Rick Warren said about four years ago in referring to a "second reformation in the church" helps one to understand why Warren resonates with Kreeft enough to invite him as an apologist:

The man of peace is open and influential ... and here's the other thing, the man of peace does not have to be a Christian believer, could be Muslim, could be Jewish. (Interview with Charlie Rose - 29:00 min. mark)

Yancey, McKnight, and Kreeft - apologetics for the biblical Christian faith? Based on what we have just shown here, how would you answer that question? Apparently, these are not important issues to Rick Warren though. Rick Warren told Larry King once that his goal in life is to bring about a new reformation. But the reformation Warren has defined over and over is ecumenical, contemplative, and emerging. Obviously, he considers Yancey, McKnight, and Kreeft fellow defenders of the faith. But we must ask ourselves, what faith is Rick Warren defending?

In a SoJourner's magazine article (see *below) Philip Yancey once stated that he was surprised at how much he had gotten away with in the evangelical church. We wonder if Rick Warren may be saying the same thing these days.  We beseech Christian leaders who have  helped further the Purpose Driven movement through their public adherence to step up to the plate and say, "I Was Wrong. I was wrong to promote him. I was wrong to be silent when I did finally realize the truth." Is it really that difficult for Christian leaders to see the direction that Rick Warren has been going all along? Leaders, pastors, teachers, are you going to continue linking arms with "America's Pastor" who is clearly drawing closer and closer to a spirituality that the likes of David Steindl-Rast would embrace? Or will you choose to hold fast to the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Will you please men or will you be the servant of Christ?  

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Galatians 1:6-10

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* Philip Yancey: "I myself have been surprised at what I can get away with. When I sent off the manuscrïpt of What's So Amazing About Grace? I said to my wife, Janet, "That's probably the last book I'm going to write for the evangelical market." It's got a whole chapter on Mel White, who's now a gay activist, and it's got a whole chapter on Bill Clinton, who's not the most favored president of evangelicals." Sojourner Magazine  "Sex, Lies and Living on the Evangelical Edge


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January 11, 2011

In view of the recent violent tragedy in Tuscon, Arizona, Lighthouse Trails wants to reiterate: The purpose of our critiques is in no wise intended to be vitriolic or hateful or to inspire hateful acts against those we write about. We deplore violent, cruel, and unjust acts against any person or groups of persons. Our purpose is to challenge those who are considered to be the leaders of the Christian church in the area of doctrine as it relates to the defense of the Christian faith and the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the Bible puts forth.

" Rick Warren's New Health and Wellness Initiative Could Have Profound Repercussions on Many"

Just ten days after Lighthouse Trails posted its last and most important article of 2010, Rick Warren’s “Apologetics” Weekend Should Apologize for Representing “Another Gospel,” http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=5393 we must issue this Special Report regarding a year-long event that will be kicking off at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church on January 15th.

Near the end of 2010, Rick Warren announced that Saddleback Church would be entering "a Decade of Destiny." He told his congregation that they would be focusing on several key areas, one of them being "health and wellness." The "Daniel Challenge" or the "Daniel Plan" is Saddleback's new health "initiative."  On Saddleback's website, it states:

Gods’ Prescrïption For Your Health

Be a part of this transformational debut to be a healthier you!

The kick-off event is next weekend, January 15. We’ll hear from world-renowned doctors on a plan to get healthy and stay that way in the new decade.

Who are the "world-renowned doctors" that will be helping to kick off Saddleback's Decade of Destiny? Dr. Mehmet Oz, Dr. Daniel Amen, and Dr. Mark Hyman. The VIDEO http://saddleback.com/blogs/communityblog/orange-countys-plan-to-get-health… on the website states that this program has been "Exclusively Designed for Saddleback Church by Three of the Leading Health Specialists in America."

Let us get right to the point: The three doctors who have put together a 52-week health program for Saddleback congregants are absolute advocates and proponents of not just eastern-style meditation but actual eastern meditation and much much more as this article will reveal. Right off, let us say that if you are thinking perhaps that these doctors will only advise Saddleback on legitimate health advice (exercise, healthy eating, etc.) take a look at this video (taken place at Saddleback) between Rick Warren and Dr. Daniel Amen. Amen intends to help Saddleback participants to have good "brain health," which he firmly believes comes from meditation. In this VIDEO http://www.rickwarren.com/mc/m/FACA , he openly discusses meditation with Rick Warren.

What are the spiritual underpinnings of the meditation these three doctors are propagating? This report will lay it out for you.

Dr. Amen, founder of Amen Clinics, is the author of over 25 books. He teaches techniques that will improve "brain health," claiming that poor brain health is associated with a host of problems from overeating to depression. As Dr. Amen describes in the video you just saw, he includes meditation (and in fact this is his primary tool) as a way to have a healthy brain.

It is the nature of this meditation that sets Dr. Amen apart from any other individual that Lighthouse Trails has ever written about concerning Rick Warren. In a 6-CD set called Create a More Passionate Night http://dakalove.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7 ,  Dr. Amen has teamed up with advanced certified Tantra educator, T. J. Bartel. It is important that you visit Bartel's website to better understand the nature of what he stands for. By the way, when you hear Bartel say "Namaste," this means the god in me bows down to the god in  you. We have discussed tantric sex in a number of  Lighthouse Trails articles in the past, such as one called What's Sex Got to Do with It?" http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=4803 Please refer to this article if you are unfamiliar with this spiritual practice. In essence, Tantra or tantric sex is the use of Hinduistic-type mysticism during sexual intercourse. Please listen to what Ray Yungen has to say about Tantra and the serious implications of it:

Tantra is the name of the ancient Hindu sacred texts that contain certain rituals and secrets. Some deal with taking the energies brought forth in meditation through the chakras and combining them with love-making to enhance sexual experiences.

Once completely off-limits to the masses of humanity, Tantra, like all other New Age methodologies, is now starting to gain increasing popularity. . . . The potential to impact a very great number of people, especially men, was brought out in an article by a sex worker http://alternativesmagazine.com/40/sitka.html who incorporates “Tantric Bodywork” into her services. . . .  she has turned to Tantric Union to give her clients what she feels is not just sex but “union with the divine.” . . .  Now the “multitudes of men” who come to her get much more than they bargained for. In the past, wives and girlfriends needed only to worry about sexually transmitted diseases from cheating husbands and boyfriends, but now their men may instead bring home spiritual entities! (For Many Shall Come in My Name, Yungen, pp. 115-116)

We are sorry to be so frank - but we must - we are dealing with Rick Warren,  "America's Pastor" and one of the most, perhaps the most, influential evangelical leaders today. And in just a few days, he will be starting a 52-week health program that has been designed by Dr. Amen, a tantric sex activist! Dr. Amen expresses his strong feelings about tantric in his book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Body:

In my book, The Brain in Love, I wrote about Tantric sexual practices, and was fascinated by the concept . . .  I wanted to experience it for myself and thought it would be a wonderful way to enhance my relationship with my wife, Tana. . . .  T.J. Bartel . . . became our teacher . . . I felt as if I had to share his knowledge with everyone I knew." (p. 283)

Everyone he knows? Will that include Rick Warren, Saddleback Church, and even overflow to thousands of Purpose Driven churches? That could potentially be millions of people. On the video interview with Rick Warren and Dr. Amen, Warren states that Dr. Amen's resources would be available for those attending the seminar this coming weekend. In almost all of the "resources" by  Dr. Amen, he  advocates eastern meditation. In some of the books, he devotes many many pages to meditation practices. On page 238 of Amen's Making a Good Brain Great, he states: "I recommend an active form of yoga meditation called Kriya Kirtan. It is based on the five primal sounds saa, taa, naa, maa, aa." He tells readers to repeat these sounds for 12 minutes straight.

Many of you have heard of New Age leader Eckhart Tolle, whose 2008 book A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose was highly popularized by Oprah. Tolle stated that the book's purpose was to bring about a "shift in consciousness" (pp. 6-7). In his earlier book, The Power of Now, he speaks of  this "consciousness," what he considers a christ-consciousness:  

Christ is your God-essence or the Self, as it is sometimes called in the East. The only difference between Christ and presence is that Christ refers to your indwelling divinity regardless of whether you are conscious of it or not, whereas presence means your awakened divinity or God-essence. (p. 104)

For more on Eckhart Tolle and the great awakening that New Agers seek after for the planet, read Warren B. Smith's 4-part article, " The Great Heretical Idea: Oprah and Eckhart Do the New Age Shift." http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=1850 Dr. Daniel Amen talks about Tolle's The Power of Now in his book, Change Your Brain, Change Your Body, calling Tolle's book "extraordinary."

Dr. Amen's meditation technique of choice is Kriya Kirtan, as we stated above. This is a form of kundalini yoga (see his book,The Brain in Love, p. 146). Those who have studied with discernment the New Age, know that KUNDALINI (OR SERPENT POWER) is the SPIRITUAL "ENERGY" behind meditation. Ray Yungen explains the relationship between kundalini and the chakras:

The chakras act as conduits or conductors for what is called kundalini or serpent energy. They say this force lies coiled but dormant at the base of the spine like a snake. When awakened during meditation, it is supposed to travel up the spine activating each chakra as it surges upward. When the kundalini force hits the crown chakra, the person experiences enlightenment or Self-realization. This mystical current results in the person knowing himself to be God. That is why kundalini is sometimes referred to as the divine energy. According to New Age proponents, all meditative methods involve energy and power, and the greater the power, the greater the experience. (FMSC, pp. 76-77)

Dr. Mark Hyman, one of the three doctors who "designed" the "Daniel Challenge" for Saddleback , is another strong advocate for mystical meditation. In his book, The Ultramind Solution, Hyman emphasizes meditation, saying that it doesn't matter what religion one has to benefit from it (p. 322). Dr. Hyman suggests that "Mindful meditation is a powerful well-researched tool, developed by Buddhists" (p. 384). On the front cover of The Ultramind Solution, sits an endorsement by Dr. Mehmet Oz, the third doctor who will be training Saddleback on health.

Anyone who watches daytime television, in particular Oprah, will know the name Dr. Oz, a highly renowned cardiovascular surgeon.  It was Oprah who featured him on her show for five years, making him a household name, which eventually led to his own television show, one of the most popular shows on television.

Last February, Lighthouse Trails posted a piece titled "Dr. Oz Tells Millions of Americans: 'Try Reiki!'" In January 2010, Dr. Oz brought a Reiki master onto his show to demonstrate Reiki and then ended the show saying,  “try Reiki” http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=3927 as the #1 “Oz’s Order.” It would make sense that Dr. Oz would tell his viewers to try Reiki - his wife is a Reiki practitioner. One press release related http://www.prweb.com/releases/animal_reiki_master/Dr_Oz/prweb3426604.htm :

Reiki Masters across America and the world had cause for celebration on January 6 when Dr. Mehmet Oz revealed his Ultimate Alternative Medicine Secrets for 2010 during his nationally broadcast afternoon talk show. He ranked Reiki #1. Dr. Oz said, “Reiki is one of my favorites, we’ve been using it for years in the Oz family, and we swear by it.”

As Lighthouse Trails has documented for years, Reiki is a type of "energy healing" that is based on the New Age chakra system and puts those practicing it into contact with the realm of familiar spirits. If this sounds far fetched, listen to what one Reiki master wrote in the Everything Reiki Book:

During the Reiki attunement process, the avenue that is opened within the body to allow Reiki to flow through also opens up the psychic communication centers.  This is why many Reiki practitioners report having verbalized channeled communications with the spirit world. (cited in A Time of Departing, p. 97)

Recently, we posted a YouTube VIDEO  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4N2URu4avY that describes the spiritual consequences of practicing Reiki. The person doing the video told the story of one woman, who after practicing Reiki came into contact with 35 spirit guides, and she was unable to rid herself of them. They told her they would be with her forever. If you have not yet viewed this 10 minute video, it is imperative that you do. Reiki is a catalyst  or channel, as stated earlier, into the spirit world. This is not a silly, nonsensical ritual with no meaning. This is serious stuff!

How serious? Consider this: A book titled The Instruction written by Ainslie MacLeod, is described by the publisher as the following:

Have you ever sensed that your life has a deeper, more meaningful purpose--but don't know what it is? If so, you're not alone. To help you and the millions like you, psychic Ainslie MacLeod's spirit guides have given him a systematic approach to uncovering who you really are--and the life your soul has planned for you. They call it The Instruction. Now, for the first time, this unique teaching is offered as a step-by-step program for realizing personal fulfillment. The Instruction will take you through ten "doorways" to unveil the life plan your soul created before you were even born.

In the  foreword written by MacLeod, he says the "purpose of the book is to understand the coming shift in consciousness that is poised to sweep the planet. This transformation will affect everyone of us in some way." This book, which is given by spirit guides and lays out the basic foundation for the New Age impressed Dr. Oz so much that he wrote an endorsement for the front cover. He stated:   "I recommend this book to those who seek greater spiritual well-being and a better understanding of their life's purpose." Dr. Oz's endorsement is also on the front cover of MacLeod's 2010 book, The Transformation: Healing Your Past Lives to Realize Your Soul's Potential,where he exclaimed: "Ainslie MacLeod is at the frontier of exploration into the soul and its profound influence on our physical selves."

Make no mistake about it - Reiki, meditation, tantric sex - these are very powerful mystical experiences that have the capability to delude and deceive those who are involved with it. While many of the health ideas these three doctors share in their books and DVDs are legitimate (exercise, vitamins, and good diet, etc.), these doctors firmly believe in meditation and want to make it widely accepted and embraced and have interwoven this belief into their programs. As Dr. Amen admitted himself, he wants to tell everyone he knows about meditation. Rick Warren and Saddleback are in danger as could be the millions who Rick Warren influences.

We urge all discerning believers to contact their own pastors  and any other pastors or leaders they know to warn them about what is taking place in the name of wellness and fitness in the church. We urge you also to contact ministries who have, in one way or another, either through consent or silence, supported the "new" spirituality that is trying to enter the church and tell them where it leads.  The wellness and fitness aspect of this is just another face of this whole movement that is impacting our entire culture.

In this plea, consider what Roger Oakland stated at the end of Faith Undone : http://www.lighthousetrails.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code…

There are still pastors and churches dedicated to proclaiming the truth. Find out where they are and support them. If you are in a location where this does not seem to be possible, seek out materials that are available from solid Bible-based Christian ministries and hold Bible studies in your homes.

When Jesus returns, He will not find a utopian world filled with peace but one in shambles, unrest, violence, and war for having forsaken the Word of God, the true Gospel, and the One true God. Rather than being a time when He will praise the world for discovering its christ-consciousness, He will come as a Judge and powerful King (p. 230).

Let us hold fast to the truth, and in considering the fact that compromising our spiritual health and wellness is never the right avenue to physical wellness, remember the words Paul spoke to the Romans. He did not tell them to entertain spirit guides, practice mantra meditation, yoga, or Reiki. This was his instruction to believers:

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12: 1-2

As important as physical health may be, we must remember that our bodies are only temporal. Yes, we should take care of them, but in the process we should not do as Esau did and sell out our spiritual heritage for a bowl of pottage.


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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:43 (2011)    Post subject: RICK WARREN TEAMS UP WITH SWEDENBORG CULT FOLLOWER DR. OZ Reply with quote

RICK WARREN TEAMS UP WITH SWEDENBORG CULT FOLLOWER DR. OZ

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MADISON, Wis., Jan. 13, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- On January 15, Rick Warren will kick-off a 52-week Daniel Plan to become healthier with Dr. Mehmet Oz, a follower of cult leader Emmanuel Swedenborg.

According to Warren's website, his church will host a 52-week course to stress losing weight and becoming healthier. The kick-off event will include Dr. Mehmet Oz, Dr. Daniel Amen, and Dr. Mark Hyman. All three have Eastern spiritual connections.

Dr. Mehmert Oz is a follower of Emmanuel Swedenborg according to The New Church website. He has appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and is Professor of Cardiac Surgery at Columbia University.

He is inspired by Emmanuel Swedenborg, a cult leader who died in 1772 in Sweden. Swedenborgianism has up to 50,000 members worldwide according to the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website. They deny the atonement, the trinity, and the deity of the Holy Spirit.

They believe all religions lead to God and that Christianity must go through a rebirth. Also, they do not believe in a personal devil. They believe the Bible is not inspired and that when people die, they become an angel or an evil spirit.

Emmanuel Swedenborg had a vision in 1745 where he supposedly saw creatures crawling on the walls. He believed God then appeared to him as a man and told him that he would be the person to promote the new teachings to the world.

The other two speakers are Dr. Daniel Amen and Dr. Mark Hyman. Dr. Amen teaches tantric sex, a Hindu mystical approach to sex. He teaches Eastern religion meditation and energy-based Reiki, a New Age practice. Dr. Mark Hyman promotes mystical meditation based on Buddhist principles.

Christian Investigator President Steve McConkey says, "It is troubling for a top pastor in the United States to promote false teachers. We are living at an all-time low spiritually in the United States with weak leaders. We need to teach basic Bible principles without legalism."

Steve McConkey is the President/Founder of 4 WINDS which offers the news/apologetics site ChristianInvestigator.com (CI). Also, CI produces articles that are distributed worldwide on important issues. CI is the first news/apologetics site offered by a sports ministry. Steve and his wife have been in world-class track and field ministries since 1981. 4 WINDS was started in 1988 and encourages athletes to grow in their Christian faith.


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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:46 (2011)    Post subject: DR AMEN, RICK WARREN'S WEIGHT LOSS DOCTOR, PUSHES MEDITATION AND TANTRIC SEX Reply with quote

DR. AMEN, RICK WARREN'S WEIGHT LOSS DOCTOR, PUSHES MEDITATION AND TANTRIC SEX

It's all old pagan practices and the same spirit of demons.


MADISON, Wis., Jan. 25, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- Rick Warren kicked of his weight loss Daniel Plan on January 15. He plans to lose 90 pounds in 2011. Three doctors helped him kick off the program . One of the doctors was Dr. Daniel Amen.

Dr. Daniel Amen promotes false meditation and tantric sex. (In our first news release, "Rick Warren Teams up with Swedenborg Cult Follower Dr. Oz," we mistakenly said he promoted Reiki. That was an editing error.)

From Dr. Amen's blog, he said, "My favorite form of meditation is called Kirtan Kriya...I'm going to shut my door and meditate. If you want to join me, here's how you do it. This twelve-minute meditation involves chanting the following simple sounds -- "saa" "taa" "naa" "maa" -- while doing repetitive finger movements."

Kirtan Kriya is a meditation chant exercise originating from Kundalini Yoga. Kirtan Kriya involves chanting and using finger poses. This simple exercise is supposed to allow a person to relax.

Dr. Amen says he is a Christian. It is troubling that a doctor would promote false meditation. The Bible outlines how we are to pray while meditating on Bible passages.

Christian Investigator President Steve McConkey states, "Every year, new teachers come up with something new and put a Christian label on the new thing. It is as if they believe the Bible's instruction on mental health is deficient."

Dr. Amen, an Oral Roberts University School of Medicine graduate, and Tantric sex expert TJ Bartel produced a six CD series called "Create More Passion Tonight."

According to TJ Bartel's website, "This course will give you the underlying neuroscience of intimate connection, mixed with the ancient Tantra art of healing...suggestions on what you can do right now to improve your lovemaking skills."

Tantric sex is taught in Buddhism and Hinduism. Tantric gurus educate and prepare couples to have meaningful sex by supposedly harnessing and maximizing personal energy for better sex.

Steve McConkey believes Christians are embracing a dangerous practice in Tantric sex, "The Bible gives good advice for sex. Read the Song of Solomon. Is the Bible deficient?"

Steve McConkey is the President/Founder of 4 WINDS which offers the news/apologetics site Christian Investigator (CI). Also, CI produces articles that are distributed worldwide on important issues. CI is the first news/apologetics site offered by a sports ministry. See www.ChristianInvestigator.com which was re-done last week.


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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:49 (2011)    Post subject: WARREN JESUS, MUSLIM JESUS, OR BIBLICAL JESUS... Reply with quote

GLOBAL PEACE PLAN

WARREN JESUS, MUSLIM JESUS, OR BIBLICAL JESUS, WHICH ONE IS THE REAL JESUS?

By James Sundquist

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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:52 (2011)    Post subject: LE VEAU D'OR MODERNE Reply with quote

LE VEAU D'OR MODERNE

Étude faite par pasteur Raymond Bourgier sur le livre de Rick Warren "Une vie, une passion et une destinée".

Série sur Youtbe : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-iUaPvcRrM&feature=related


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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:55 (2011)    Post subject: EXPOSED! RICK WARREN ADMITS MEMBERSHIP IN NWO GROUP CFR Reply with quote

EXPOSED! RICK WARREN ADMITS MEMBERSHIP IN NEW WORLD ORDER GROUP CFR


Rick Warren admits membership in good standing in Council on Foreign Relations – CFR

WASHINGTON – Rick Warren, the superstar mega-church pastor and bestselling author of ”The Purpose Driven Life,” had a Damascus Road experience last week – and like Saul of Tarsus, one of the after-effects appears to be blindness.

Rick Warren - Member in good standing in CFR

Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. He could find no evidence of the sponsorship of terrorism.

Despite the temporary loss of vision that prevented him from seeing any evil in the totalitarian police state, Warren’s hearing was apparently not affected – for his ears were tickled by what he heard and apparently accepted lock, stock and barrel from the second-generation dictator, Bashar Assad, and his state-approved mufti.

But that’s not the story Warren is telling – at least not in the official press releases he is sending out from Rwanda in response to my confrontations with him last week in which I accused him of betraying his own country in a hostile foreign land and of being a propaganda tool of the Islamo-fascist regime in Damascus.

In fact, after I called him out last week in my column, Warren e-mailed me claiming to have been misquoted by the official Syrian news agency.

”Joseph, why didn’t you contact me first and discover the fact that I said nothing of the sort?” he pleaded. ”The trip was a favor to my next door neighbor, had nothing to do with policy, and was done with the State Department’s knowledge – who told us to expect exactly what Syria did – a PR blast. I don’t pretend to be a diplomat. I’m a pastor who just gets invited places.”

I pointed out to Warren that WND had indeed attempted to contact him about his trip. No one from his Saddleback Church ever returned our calls the day the story broke.

”I’m sure since you were warned in advance by the State Department that you took the precaution of recording your own words,” I suggested in my response. ”We look forward to seeing the transcrïpts or hearing the recordings.”

I also asked if he could respond specifically to the words put in his mouth by the Syrian news agency. And lastly I suggested that he should have ”counseled with me, or other people knowledgeable about the Middle East before doing so much damage with your reckless trip.”

I really didn’t expect to hear back from Warren – but, a few minutes later, I did, with an absolutely stunning retort.

He let me know he is a close friend of President Bush ” and many, if not most, of the generals at the Pentagon.” He also told me he did not tape anything while in Syria, ”because it was a courtesy call, like I do in every country.” Warren explained that he had also counseled with the National Security Council and the White House, as well as the State Department, before his little courtesy call for a neighbor.

”In fact,” Warren added, ”as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Oxford Analytica, I might know as much about the Middle East as you.”

He continued: ”I hope you’ll not choose to believe Syrian propaganda even though, as you pointed out at the start of your article, you’ve been wanting to criticize me for some time. In spite of your rush to judgment, I think you write great, insightful columns. You are almost batting 1,000.”

No sooner had I received this surprising response from Warren, I also got an e-mail providing a link to a YouTube video of Rick Warren in Syria explaining how great the Assad regime treats Christians and Jews and how Damascus ”does not permit extremism of any kind.”

Not one to let lies go unchallenged, I wrote back to Warren with a link to the YouTube video: ”If you didn’t tape anything, what’s this? Do you really believe Syria does not allow extremism of any kind? There are more terrorist organizations based in Syria than anywhere else in the world!”

It might be that Rick Warren, deep in the bush of Rwanda, never received those last questions, because he never responded – at least not in the last three days.

He did, however, within minutes make sure the YouTube video he recorded independent of his meetings with the Syrian brown shirts was removed from the network. Vanished. Kaput. Sterilized. Cleansed
. Stay tuned for more on Rick Warren’s ”Agenda-Driven Life” in the coming days – sponsored, of course, by the Council on Foreign Relations. source – Joseph Farah/WND

Click here http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=1366 to read about Rick Warren and the birth of Chrislam


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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:56 (2011)    Post subject: THE PURPOSE-DRIVEN LIE Reply with quote

THE PURPOSE-DRIVEN LIE

Posted: November 16, 2006
1:00 am Eastern
By Joseph Farah
© 2011  

Rick Warren wrote to me this morning to protest this column. He claims he didn't say anything he was actually quoted as saying by the official press in Syria. However, in a video posted on YouTube but removed today, he says Syria "does not allow extremism of any kind." In fact, Syria is, in many ways, the No. 1 sponsor of terrorism in the world.

For a long time I've held off criticizing mega-church leader Rick Warren, author of the best-selling "The Purpose Driven Life," even though I have been sorely tempted.
When he joined up with now-disgraced National Association of Evangelicals leader Ted Haggard to suggest man-induced global warming represented an impending calamity, I didn't say too much. I questioned it, but I let it go.

When he joined Haggard again in writing an open letter to President Bush urging government action to fight global poverty, I didn't say a word – even though I thought it ironic. After all, it is the church's responsibility to help the poor. It is not government's responsibility.

But now that Rick Warren has traveled to and provided legitimacy to a hostile foreign government, presided over by a brutal fascist dictator who hates Jews, threatens Israel, subverts neighboring Lebanon, imprisons and terrorizes its own citizens and even kills them in massive numbers when they stand up in revolt – now I have to denounce this impostor in the strongest terms possible.

It is my biblical mandate to do so.

Other Christians may be holding back, waiting to hear Rick Warren's explanation for his behavior in Syria. Some are cautiously suggesting that accounts of his activities there may have been distorted by the controlled press. Some want to give him the benefit of any doubt.

I'm going to give it to you straight: Rick Warren had no business traveling to Syria and being used for propaganda purposes by Bashar Assad, the terrorist-supporting president. There are only two possibilities to explain what happened:

•He made the outrageous statements attributed to him by the Syrians, for which he should be ostracized – maybe even tried for treason, in my opinion.

•He didn't make the statements, or was misquoted – in which case he has placed himself in the predictable position of being a "useful idiot" for the Islamofascist regime in Damascus.
Take your pick. Neither option is very attractive.

Here's what we know now.

The official press in the Syrian police state is suggesting Warren is taking sides with Syria against his own country with regard to issues in the Middle East. The reports indicate we can soon expect Warren, upon his return to the U.S., to lecture Americans about our abusive role in the region.

The Syrian newspaper Umar Jaftali quotes Warren as saying: "Washington is wrong not to hold dialogue with Syria, which wants peace. I call on the Americans to visit Syria and meet its beautiful people. I will tell the Americans that their idea about Syria does not reflect the truth."

Here's what the Syrian Arab News Agency reported:

•"[The] American delegation stressed that the American administration is mistaken not to hold dialogue with Syria."

•"Pastor Warren hailed the religious coexistence, tolerance and stability that the Syrian society is enjoying due to the wise leadership of President al-Assad, asserting that he will convey the true image about Syria to the American people."

•Warren gave Assad a "memorial drawing" to "thank the Syrian people for their ... efforts exerted for maintaining peace and harmony."

•Warren was quoted as saying: "Syria wants peace, and Muslims and Christians live in this country jointly and peacefully since more than a thousand years, and this is not new for Syria."

•He would, in the words of the official news agency, "tell the Americans that the ideas which had been shaped about [Syria] didn't reflect the truth and they have to come to Syria and see by themselves and realize her nice people and visit her wonderful and historical ruins."

•It was reported he told Syria's Islamic grand mufti that there could be no peace in the region without Syria and that 80 percent of Americans rejects what the U.S. administration is doing in Iraq.

•He praised Islamic-Christian co-existence in Syria.
If I were a betting man, I would wager that Warren will come home and allege he was widely misquoted. He probably was. I HOPE he was. But here's the problem: When you place yourself in the position of being used – and you ARE used – whose fault is it?


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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 14:59 (2011)    Post subject: RICK WARREN, EVANG., INVITE MUSLIMS TO LOVE GOD TOGETHER Reply with quote



**RICK WARREN, EVANGELICALS, INVITE MUSLIMS TO LOVE GOD TOGETHER**

**Full Text of Evangelical Letter to Muslims**
yale.edu/faith/abou-commonword.htm

Here is Schlueter’s commentary:

A Slice alert today as the Christian Post reports this morning that Rick Warren, Leith Anderson, the head of the National Association of Evangelicals, Bill Hybels and other evangelicals have signed a document urging Muslims to “love God” together with them and to find peace between the two religions. This is where it has all been heading, folks. You’ve been warned for a long time now that this new spirituality is coming. Here’s a quote from the article:

Christian leaders urged for an INTERFAITH DIALOGUE that moves beyond “polite” ecumenical talks between selected leaders. Instead, leaders of both faiths should hold dialogues to build relations that will “reshape” the two communities to “genuinely reflect our common love for God and for one another,” the Christian letter stated.“Given the deep fissures in the relations between Christians and Muslims today, the task before us is daunting. And the stakes are great. The future of the world depends on our ability as Christians and Muslims to live together in peace,” the letter added. “If we fail to make every effort to make peace and come together in harmony you correctly remind us that ‘our eternal souls’ are at stake as well.

The letter’s main emphasis is the “absolutely central” commonality between both religions: love of God and love of neighbor.

Other signers of the letter include Miroslav Volf, founder and director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture; Dr. Martin Accad, academic dean of the Arab Baptist Theological Seminary (Lebanon); Robert E. Cooley, president emeritus of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary; Harvey Cox, Hollis professor of Divinity at Harvard Divinity School; and Bill Hybels, founder and senior pastor of Willow Creek Community Church.

The letter includes an “apology” to the Muslims for various wrongs that Christians have done them.

In the Christian response, Muslims have been asked to forgive Christians for their past sins – such as the Crusades and excesses of the “war on terrors” – as taught by Jesus Christ who said to “First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out your neighbor’s eye” (Matthew 7:5).

Here is the full text of the letter published in the NewYork Times to Muslim leaders. Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, Leith Anderson and company are leading the evangelical churches right the arms of the cosmic christ of the New Age.

And here is a leader of the church of judge not, Warren, responding to the likes of me with claims that we are serving Satan by causing division: What the Bible Says about Handling Disunity. Do not hold your breath for Warren to address what the Bible says about handling heretical blasphemous apostasy. By the way, since stuff like this has a habit of disappearing, I took the liberty of preserving the list of participants in the conference according to the Yale University link. It will be the subject of a separate post shortly.


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**Full Text of Evangelical Letter to Muslims**
yale.edu/faith/abou-commonword.htm

In the name of the Infinitely Good God whom we should love with all our Being

Preamble

As members of the worldwide Christian community, we were deeply encouraged and challenged by the recent historic open letter signed by 138 leading Muslim scholars, clerics, and intellectuals from around the world. A Common Word Between Us and You identifies some core common ground between Christianity and Islam which lies at the heart of our respective faiths as well as at the heart of the most ancient Abrahamic faith, Judaism. Jesus Christ’s call to love God and neighbor was rooted in the divine revelation to the people of Israel embodied in the Torah (Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18). We receive the open letter as a Muslim hand of conviviality and cooperation extended to Christians worldwide. In this response we extend our own Christian hand in return, so that together with all other human beings we may live in peace and justice as we seek to love God and our neighbors.

Muslims and Christians have not always shaken hands in friendship; their relations have sometimes been tense, even characterized by outright hostility. Since Jesus Christ says, “First take the log out your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye” (Matthew 7:5), we want to begin by acknowledging that in the past (e.g. in the Crusades) and in the present (e.g. in excesses of the “war on terror”) many Christians have been guilty of sinning against our Muslim neighbors. Before we “shake your hand” in responding to your letter, we ask forgiveness of the All-Merciful One and of the Muslim community around the world.

Religious Peace—World Peace

“Muslims and Christians together make up well over half of the world’s population. Without peace and justice between these two religious communities, there can be no meaningful peace in the world.” We share the sentiment of the Muslim signatories expressed in these opening lines of their open letter. Peaceful relations between Muslims and Christians stand as one of the central challenges of this century, and perhaps of the whole present epoch. Though tensions, conflicts, and even wars in which Christians and Muslims stand against each other are not primarily religious in character, they possess an undeniable religious dimension. If we can achieve religious peace between these two religious communities, peace in the world will clearly be easier to attain. It is therefore no exaggeration to say, as you have in A Common Word Between Us and You, that “the future of the world depends on peace between Muslims and Christians.”

Common Ground

What is so extraordinary about A Common Word Between Us and You is not that its signatories recognize the critical character of the present moment in relations between Muslims and Christians. It is rather a deep insight and courage with which they have identified the common ground between the Muslim and Christian religious communities. What is common between us lies not in something marginal nor in something merely important to each. It lies, rather, in something absolutely central to both: love of God and loveof neighbor. Surprisingly for many Christians, your letter considers the dual command of love to be the foundational principle not just of the Christian faith, but of Islam as well.

That so much common ground exists – common ground in some of the fundamentals of faith – gives hope that undeniable differences and even the very real external pressures that bear down upon us can not overshadow the common ground upon which we stand together. That this common ground consists in love of God and ofneighbor gives hope that deep cooperation between us can be a hallmark of the relations between our two communities.

Love of God

We applaud that A Common Word Between Us and You stresses so insistently the unique devotion to one God, indeed the love of God, as the primary duty of every believer. God alone rightly commands our ultimate allegiance. When anyone or anything besides God commands our ultimate allegiance – a ruler, a nation, economic progress, or anything else – we end up serving idols and inevitably get mired in deep and deadly conflicts.

We find it equally heartening that the God whom we should love above all things is described as being Love. In the Muslim tradition, God, “the Lord of the worlds,” is “The Infinitely Good and All-Merciful.” And the New Testament states clearly that “God is love” (1 John 4:8). Since God’s goodness is infinite and not bound by anything, God “makes his sun rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous,” according to the words of Jesus Christ recorded in the Gospel (Matthew 5:45).  

For Christians, humanity’s love of God and God’s love of humanity are intimately linked. As we read in the New Testament: “We love because he [God] first loved us” (1 John 4:19). Our love of God springs from and is nourished by God’s love for us. It cannot be otherwise, since the Creator who has power over all things is infinitely good.

Love of Neighbor

We find deep affinities with our own Christian faith when A Common Word Between Us and You insists that love is the pinnacle of our duties toward our neighbors. “None of you has faith until you love for your neighbor what you love for yourself,” the Prophet Muhammad said. In the New Testament we similarly read, “whoever does not love [the neighbor] does not know God” (1 John 4:8) and “whoever does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen” (1 John 4:20). God is love, and our highest calling as human beings is to imitate the One whom we worship.

We applaud when you state that “justice and freedom of religion are a crucial part” of the love of neighbor. When justice is lacking, neither love of God nor love of the neighbor can be present. When freedom to worship God according to one’s conscience is curtailed, God is dishonored, the neighbor oppressed, and neither God nor neighbor is loved.

Since Muslims seek to love their Christian neighbors, they are not against them, the document encouragingly states. Instead, Muslims are with them. As Christians we resonate deeply with this sentiment. Our faith teaches that we must be with our neighbors – indeed, that we must act in their favor – even when our neighbors turn out to be our enemies. “But I say unto you,” says Jesus Christ, “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good” (Matthew 5:44-45). Our love, Jesus Christ says, must imitate the love of the infinitely good Creator; our love must be as unconditional as is God’s—extending to brothers, sisters, neighbors, and even enemies. At the end of his life, Jesus Christ himself prayed for his enemies: “Forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing” (Luke 23:34).

The Prophet Muhammad did similarly when he was violently rejected and stoned by the people of Ta’if. He is known to have said, “The most virtuous behavior is to engage those who sever relations, to give to those who withhold from you, and to forgive those who wrong you.” (It is perhaps significant that after the Prophet Muhammad was driven out of Ta’if, it was the Christian slave ‘Addas who went out to Muhammad, brought him food, kissed him, and embraced him.)

The Task Before Us

“Let this common ground” – the dual common ground of love of God and of neighbor – “be the basis of all future interfaith dialogue between us,” your courageous letter urges. Indeed, in the generosity with which the letter is written you embody what you call for. We most heartily agree. Abandoning all “hatred and strife,” we must engage in interfaith dialogue as those who seek each other’s good, for the one God unceasingly seeks our good. Indeed, together with you we believe that we need to move beyond “a polite ecumenical dialogue between selected religious leaders” and work diligently together to reshape relations between our communities and our nations so that they genuinely reflect our common love for God and for one another.

Given the deep fissures in the relations between Christians and Muslims today, the task before us is daunting. And the stakes are great. The future of the world depends on our ability as Christians and Muslims to live together in peace. If we fail to make every effort to make peace and come together in harmony you correctly remind us that “our eternal souls” are at stake as well.

We are persuaded that our next step should be for our leaders at every level to meet together and begin the earnest work of determining how God would have us fulfill the requirement that we love God and one another. It is with humility and hope that we receive your generous letter, and we commit ourselves to labor together in heart, soul, mind and strength for the objectives you so appropriately propose.


Harold W. Attridge
Dean and Lillian Claus Professor of
New Testament, Yale Divinity School
Miroslav Volf
Founder and Director of the Yale Center
for Faith and Culture, Henry B. Wright
Professor of Theology, Yale University
Joseph Cumming
Director of the Reconciliation Program,
Yale Center for Faith and Culture
Emilie M. Townes
Andrew Mellon Professor of African
American Religion and Theology
and President-elect of the American
Academy of Religion
A selection of prominent signatories follows. These signatories consist of those featured in the November 18, 2007 New York Times publication of “Loving God and Neighbor Together,” as well as of a selection of other prominent signatories. These signatories were all confirmed via email and in most cases were reconfirmed by further email exchange.
Capt. Bradford E. Ableson, Chaplain Corps, US Navy and Senior Episcopal Chaplain in the US Navy
Dr. Martin Accad, Academic Dean, Arab Baptist Theological Seminary (Lebanon), Director, Institute of Middle East Studies (Lebanon), Associate Professor of Islamic Studies, Fuller School of Intercultural Studies
Scott C. Alexander, Associate Professor of Islam and Director, Catholic-Muslim Studies, Catholic Theological Union
Dr. Mogamat-Ali Behardien, Minister, African Reformed Church, Paarl, South Africa.
Roger Allen, Professor of Arabic and Comparative Literature and Chair, Department of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, University of Pennsylvania, member of Middle East Study Group of the Episcopal Diocese of Pennsylvania
Jean Amore, CSJ, for the Leadership Team of the Sisters of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Leith Anderson, President, National Association of Evangelicals
Rev. Daniel S. Appleyard, Rector, Christ Episcopal Church, Dearborn, MI
William Aramony, Consultant
Yvette A. Assem, Student, Interdenominational Theological Center
Atlanta, Georgia
Harold W. Attridge, Dean and Lillian Claus Professor of New Testament, Yale Divinity School
Dr. Don Argue, Chancellor, Northwest University, Former President, National Association of Evangelicals, Commissioner, United States Commission on International Religious Freedom
David Augsburger, Professor of Pastoral Care and Counseling, Fuller Theological Seminary
Gerald R. Baer, M.D., Minister of Christian Education, Landisville, PA
Dwight P. Baker, Associate Director, Overseas Ministries Study Center
Dr. Ray Bakke, Convening Chair, Evangelicals for Middle East Understanding: An International Coalition, Tempe, AZ
His Lordship Bishop Camillo Ballin, MCCI, Vicar Apostolic of Kuwait
Leonard Bartlotti, Associate Professor of Intercultural Studies, Biola University
Charles L. Bartow, Carl and Helen Egner Professor of Speech Communication in Ministry, Princeton Theological Seminary
Rt. Rev. Barry Beisner, Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Northern California
Federico Bertuzzi, President, PM Internacional, Latin America
James A. Beverley, Professor of Christian Thought and Ethics, Tyndale Seminary, Toronto, Canada
J.D. Bindenagel, former U.S. Ambassador and Vice President, DePaul University, Chicago, IL
Rev. Dr. Thomas W. Blair, The Second Presbyterian Church of Baltimore
Walter R. Bodine, Pastor, International Church at Yale and Research Affiliate, Near Eastern Languages, Yale University
Rev. Timothy A. Boggs, St. Alban's Episcopal Church, Washington, DC
Regina A. Boisclair, Cardinal Newman Chair of Theology, Alaska Pacific University, Anchorage, Alaska
David Bok, Independent Bible Teacher, Hartford Seminary, Hartford, CT
Rev. Jim Bonewald, Pastor, Knox Presbyterian Church, Cedar Rapids, IA
Jonathan J. Bonk, Executive Director, Overseas Ministries Study Center and Editor, International Bulletin of Missionary Research
Rev. Michael S. Bos, Director, Al Amana Centre, Sultanate of Oman
Steven Bouma-Prediger, Professor of Religion, Hope College, Holland, MI
Gerhard Böwering, Professor of Religious Studies, Yale University
Mary C. Boys, Skinner and McAlpin Professor of Practical Theology, Union Theological Seminary, New York, NY
Dan Brannen, International Students, Inc.
Revs. Scott & Katarina Breslin, Protestant House Church Network, Istanbul Turkey
Rev. Dr. Stuart Briscoe, Minister at Large, Elmbrook Church, Brookfield Wisconsin, USA; Founder, “Telling the Truth, Inc.”
Rev. Douglas Brown, Pastor, Valley View United Methodist Church Overland Park, Kansas
Joseph Britton, Dean, Berkeley Divinity School at Yale
Huib Bruinink, Developer of Marketing, PT. Puteri Mawar Sari, Central Java, Indonesia
John M. Buchanan, Editor/Publisher, The Christian Century.
James J. Buckley, Dean, College of Arts and Sciences, Loyola College in Maryland
Eugene W. Bunkowske, Ph.D., Fiechtner Chair Professor of Christian Outreach, Oswald Huffman School of Christian Outreach, Concordia University, St. Paul, Minnesota
John R. Burkholder, Professor Emeritus, Religion and Peace Studies, Goshen College, Goshen, IN
David Burkum, Pastor, Valley Christian Church, Lakeville, MN
Rt. Rev. Joe Goodwin Burnett, Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Nebraska
Allen Busenitz, International Student Ministry, West Lafayette, IN
Very Rev. Samuel G. Candler, Dean, Cathedral of St. Philip (Anglican), Atlanta, GA
Juan Carlos Cárdenas, Academic Director, Instituto Iberoamericano de Estudios Transculturales, Granada, Spain
Joseph Castleberry, President, Northwest University
Rev. Colin Chapman, Former Lecturer in Islamic Studies, Near East School of Theology, Beirut, Lebanon, and author of Whose Promised Land?
Ellen T. Charry, Assoc. Professor of Systematic Theology, Princeton Theological Seminary
David Yonggi Cho, Founder and Senior Pastor of Yoido Full Gospel Church, Seoul, Korea
Hyung Kyun Chung, Associate Professor of Ecumenical Studies, Union Theological Seminary in New York
Rev. Richard Cizik, Vice President of Governmental Affairs, National Association of Evangelicals
Rev. Dr. Emmanuel Clapsis, Professor of Systematic Theology, Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology, Brookline, MA
William Clarkson IV, President, The Westminster Schools, Atlanta, Georgia
Emily Click, Lecturer on Ministry and Assistant Dean for Ministry Studies and Field Education, Harvard Divinity School.
Corneliu Constantineanu, Dean and Associate Professor of New Testament, Evangelical Theological Seminary, Osijek, Croatia
Robert E. Cooley, President Emeritus, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, South Hamilton, Massachusetts
Rev. Shawn Coons, St. Philip Presbyterian, Houston, TX
Harvey Cox, Hollis Professor of Divinity, Harvard Divinity School
Joseph Cumming, Director of the Reconciliation Program, Yale Center for Faith and Culture, Yale Divinity School
Daniel A. Cunningham, Executive Pastor, Temple Bible Church, Temple, TX
Bryant L. Cureton, President, Elmhurst College, Elmhurst, IL
Fr. John D'Alton, President, Melbourne Institute for Orthodox Christian Studies, Melbourne, Australia
Fr. Joseph P. Daoust, S.J., President, Jesuit School of Theology at Berkeley, CA
Rev. David R. Davis, Special Projects Coordinator, The Evangelical Alliance Mission, Wheaton, IL
John Deacon, Leader, Branch Out Ministries, The Olive Branch Community Church, Markham, Ontario, Canada
Rev. Joseph C. Delahunt, Senior Pastor, Silliman Memorial Baptist Church, Bridgeport, CT
André Delbecq, Thomas J. and Kathleen L. McCarthy University Professor, Center for Spirituality of Organizational Leadership and former Dean of the Leavey School of Business at the University of Santa Clara
Dr. John Dendiu, Assistant Professor of Religion, Bethel College (Indiana)
David A. Depew, President, Seed of Abraham Association, Broadcasting radio Bible studies in the Middle East
Keith DeRose, Allison Foundation Professor of Philosophy, Yale University
Curtiss Paul DeYoung, Professor of Reconciliation Studies, Bethel University
Andrew Dimmock, Director, Doulos Community, Nouakchott, Mauritania
Chip Dobbs-Allsopp, Associate Professor of Old Testament, Princeton Theological Seminary
Andrés Alonso Duncan, CEO, Latinoamerica Global, A.C.
Kent A. Eaton, Professor of Pastoral Ministry and Associate Dean, Bethel Seminary San Diego, California
Diana L. Eck, Professor of Comparative Religion and Indian Studies in Arts and Sciences and member of the Faculty of Divinity, Harvard University
Mike Edens, Professor of Theology and Islamic Studies, Associate Dean of Graduate Studies, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, New Orleans, LA
Mark U. Edwards, Jr., Senior Advisor to the Dean, Harvard Divinity School
James Ehrman, Director, Global Ministries Office, Evangelical Congregational Church
Bertil Ekstrom, Executive Director, Mission Commission, World Evangelical Alliance
Nancie Erhard, Assistant Professor of Comparative Religious Ethics, Saint Mary's University, Halifax, Nova Scotia
John Esposito, University Professor & Founding Director Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, Georgetown University
Chester E. Falby, Priest Associate, St. Catherine's Episcopal Church, Manzanita, OR
Thomas P. Finger, Mennonite Central Committee, Evanston, IL
Rev. Dr. David C. Fisher, Senior Minister, Plymouth Church, Brooklyn, NY
David Ford, Regius Professor of Divinity, Cambridge University
Marlene Malahoo Forte, 2007 Yale World Fellow
Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena, CA
Rev. Susan L. Gabbard, St. John's United Church of Christ, Mifflinburg, PA
Millard Garrett, Vice President, Eastern Mennonite Missions, Salunga, PA
Siobhan Garrigan, Assistant Professor of Liturgical Studies and Assistant Dean for Marquand Chapel, Yale Divinity School
Timothy George, Dean, Beeson Divinity School, Samford University
William Goettler, Assistant Dean for Assessment and Ministerial Studies, Yale Divinity School
Michael J. Goggin, Chairperson, North American Interfaith Network (NAIN)
Robert S. Goizueta, Professor of Theology, Boston College
Bruce Gordon, Professor of History, University of St. Andrews
William A. Graham, Albertson Professor of Middle Eastern Studies in Arts and Sciences and O'Brian Professor of Divinity and Dean in the Divinity School, Harvard University
Wesley Granberg-Michaelson, general secretary, Reformed Church in America
Rev. Bruce Green, Bridge Building Facilitator, FCM Foundation, Centerville Presbyterian Church, Fremont, CA
Joel B. Green, Professor of New Testament Interpretation, Fuller Theological Seminary
Lynn Green, International Chairman, Youth With A Mission
Frank Griffel, Associate Professor of Islamic Studies, Yale University
Rev. Giorgio Grlj, Pastor, Rijeka Baptist Church, Baptist Union of Croatia,
Rev. Kent Claussen Gubrud, Christus Victor Lutheran Church, Apple Valley, MN
Rt. Rev. Edwin F. Gulick, Jr., Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Kentucky
Judith Gundry-Volf, Adjunct Associate Professor of New Testament, Yale Divinity School
David P. Gushee, Distinguished Professor of Christian Ethics, McAfee School of Theology at Mercer University and President, Evangelicals for Human Rights
Kim B. Gustafson, President, Common Ground Consultants, Inc.
Elie Haddad, Provost, Arab Baptist Theological Seminary, Lebanon
Dr. Anette Hagan, Elder, Mayfield Salisbury Parish Church, Edinburgh, Scotland
Martin Hailer, Professor of Theology, Leuphana University, Lueneburg, Germany
Rev. L. Ann Hallisey, Hallisey Consulting and Counseling, Interim Vicar, Good Shepherd Episcopal Church, Berkeley, CA
Gloria K. Hannas, Member, Peacemaking Mission Team of the Presbytery of Chicago, PCUSA, La Grange, IL
Paul D. Hanson, Florence Corliss Lamont Professor of Divinity, Harvard Divinity School
Pastor Peter Hanson, Director of Studies, Dept. of Theology and Training, Lutheran Church of Senegal
Heidi Hadsell, President, Hartford Seminary, Hartford, CT
David Heim, Executve Editor, The Christian Century
Richard Henderson, Director of Studies, Westbrook Hay, United Kingdom
Mary E. Hess, Associate Professor of Educational Leadership, Luther Seminary
Richard Heyduck, Pastor, First United Methodist Church, Pittsburg, TX
Rev. Dr. David M. Hindman, United Methodist campus minister, The Wesley Foundation at The College of William and Mary, Williamsburg, VA
Rev. Norman A. Hjelm, Director, Commission on Faith and Order (retired), National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
Carl R. Holladay, Charles Howard Candler Professor of New Testament, Candler School of Theology, Emory University
Jan Holton, Assistant Professor of Pastoral Care, Yale Divinity School
Marian E. Hostetler, former worker, Mennonite Mission Network and Eastern Mennonite Mission, Elkhart, IN
Joseph Hough, President and William E. Dodge Professor of Social Ethics, Union Theological Seminary in New York
Bill Hybels, Founder and Senior Pastor, Willow Creek Community Church, South Barrington, IL
Dale T. Irvin, President and Professor of World Christianity, New York Theological Seminary, New York, NY
Dr. Nabeel T. Jabbour, Consultant, Professor, Colorado Springs, CO
Todd Jenkins, Pastor, First Presbyterian Church, Fayetteville, TN
David L. Johnston, Lecturer, Religious Studies Department, University of Pennsylvania
Robert K. Johnston, Professor of Theology and Culture, Fuller Theological Seminary
Rt. Rev. Shannon Sherwood Johnston, Bishop Coadjutor, Episcopal Diocese of Virginia
Rt. Rev. David Colin Jones, Bishop Suffragan, Episcopal Diocese of Virginia
Gary D. Jones, Rector, St. Stephen's Episcopal Church, Richmond, VA
Tony Jones, National Coordinator, Emergent Village
Stefan Jung, Economist, Germany
Rev. Dr. Riad A. Kassis, Theologian, Author, and Consultant
Sister Helen Kearney, Sisters of Saint Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Sister Janet Kinney, CSJ, Sisters of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Doris G. Kinney, associate editor (ret.), Time Inc., New York
Steve Knight, National Coordinating Group Member, Emergent Village, Charlotte, NC
Paul Knitter, Paul Tillich Professor of Theology, World Religions and Culture, Union Theological Seminary in New York
Dr. Manfred W. Kohl, Vice President of Overseas Council International, USA
Very Rev. Dr. James A. Kowalski, Dean, The Cathedral Church of Saint John the Divine, New York NY
James R. Krabill, Senior Executive for Global Ministries, Mennonite Mission Network, Elkhart, IN
Hank Kraus, Founder and Director, PeaceMark
Sharon Kugler, University Chaplain, Yale University
Catherine Kurtz, Landisville Mennonite Church, Landisville, PA
Peter Kuzmic, Eva B. and Paul E. Toms Distinguished Professor of World Missions and European Studies, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and Rektor, Evandjeoski Teoloski Fakultet, Osijek, Croatia
Jonathan L. Kvanvig, Distinguised Professor of Philosophy, Baylor University
David Lamarre-Vincent, Executive Director, New Hampshire Council of Churches
John A. Lapp, Executive Secretary Emeritus, Mennonite Central Committee, Akron, PA
Dr. Warren Larson, Director of the Zwemer Center for Muslim Studies, Columbia International University, SC
Traugott Lawler, Professor of English emeritus, Yale University
Dr. Maurice Lee, post-doctoral fellow, Harvard University
Rt. Rev. Peter J. Lee, Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Virginia
Kristen Leslie, Associate Professor of Pastoral Care, Yale Divinity School
Linda LeSourd Lader, President, Renaissance Institute, Charleston, SC
Rev. R. Charles Lewis, Jr., Parish Associate, First Presbyterian- Vintage Faith Church, Santa Cruz, CA
Julyan Lidstone, OM, Glasgow, Scotland
Erik Lincoln, Author of Peace Generation tolerance curriculum for Muslim Students, Indonesia
John Lindner, Director of External Relations, Yale Divinity School
Greg Livingstone, Founder, Frontiers and historian of Muslim-Christian encounter
Albert C. Lobe, Interim Executive Director, Mennonite Central Committee, Akron, PA
Rick Love, International Director, Frontiers and Adjunct Associate Professor of Islamic Studies, Fuller Theological Seminary, author of Peacemaking
Donald Luidens, Professor of Sociology, Hope College, Holland, MI
Owen Lynch, Associate Pastor, Trent Vineyard, Nottingham, UK
Douglas Magnuson, Associate Professor of Intercultural Programs and Director of Muslim Studies, Bethel University
Peter Maiden, International Coordinator, OM
Jozef Majewski, Doctor of Theology, Professor of Media Studies at the University of Gdansk, Poland
Danut Manastireanu, Director for Faith & Development, Middle East & East Europe Region, World Vision International, Iasi, Romania
Rev. Dr. John T. Mathew, Minister, St. Mark's United Church of Canada, & Deptartment of Religious Studies, Huntington/Laurentian Universities, Sudbury, ON Canada
Rev. Steven D. Martin, President, Vital Visions Incorporated and Pastor, United Methodist Church, Oak Ridge, TN
Harold E. Masback, III, Senior Minister, The Congregational Church of New Canaan
Rt. Rev Gerald N. McAllister, Retired Bishop, Episcopal Diocese of Oklahoma
The Rev. Donald M. McCoid, Executive for Ecumenical and Inter-Religious Relations, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
C. Douglas McConnell, PhD, Dean, School of Intercultural Studies, Fuller Seminary
Sister Mary McConnell, CSJ, Sisters of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Don McCurry, President, Ministries to Muslims
Jeanne McGorry, CSJ, Sisters of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Elsie McKee, Archibald Alexander Professor of Reformation Studies and the History of Worship, Princeton Theological Seminary
Scot McKnight, Karl A. Olsson Professor in Religious Studies, North Park University, Chicago, IL
Brian D. McLaren, Author, Speaker, Activist
C. Edward McVaney, Retired Chairman, CEO and President, J.D. Edwards and Company
Kathleen E. McVey, J. Ross Stevenson Professor of Early and Eastern Church History, Princeton Theological Seminary
Carl Medearis, President, International Initiatives, Denver, CO
Greg Meland, Director of Formation, Supervised Ministry and Placement, Bethel Seminary, Minnesota
Judith Mendelsohn Rood, Ph.D., Associate Professor of History and Middle Eastern Studies, Department of History, Government, and Social Science School of Arts and Sciences, Biola
Mennonite Central Committee, Akron, PA
Harold E. Metzler, Member, Church of the Brethren and heritor of the Amish/Mennonite tradition
Alan E. Miller, Lead Pastor, Conestoga Church of the Brethren, Leola, PA
David B. Miller, Pastor, University Mennonite Church, State College, PA
Rev. Dr. Sid L. Mohn, President, Heartland Alliance for Human Needs and Human Rights, Chicago, IL
Brother Benilde Montgomery, O.S.F., Franciscan Brother of Brooklyn
Steve Moore, President & CEO, The Mission Exchange
Douglas Morgan, Director, Adventist Peace Fellowship
Richard Mouw, President and Professor of Christian Philosophy, Fuller Theological Seminary
Salim J. Munayer, Academic Dean, Bethlehem Bible College, Jerusalem
Rich Nathan, Senior Pastor, Vineyard Church of Columbus
David Neff, Editor in Chief & Vice-President, Christianity Today Media Group
Alexander Negrov, President, Saint Petersburg Christian University, St. Petersburg, Russia
Arnold Neufeldt-Fast, Associate Dean, Tyndale Seminary, Toronto
Craig Noll, Assistant Editor, International Bulletin of Missionary Research, Overseas Ministries Study Center
Rev. Roy Oksnevad, Institute of Strategic Evangelism at Wheaton College
Dennis Olsen, Charles T. Haley Professor of Old Testament Theology, Princeton Theological Seminary
Richard R. Osmer, Thomas Synnot Professor of Christian Education, Princeton Theological Seminary
Rev. Canon Mark Oxbrow, International Mission Director, Church Mission Society, UK
Rt. Rev. George E. Packard, Bishop Suffragan for Chaplaincies of the Episcopal Church
George Parsenios, Assistant Professor of New Testament, Princeton Theological Seminary
Greg H. Parsons, General Director, USCWM, Pasadena, CA
Stephanie A. Paulsell, Houghton Professor of the Practice of Ministry Studies, Harvard Divinity School
James R. Payton, Jr., Professor of History, Redeemer University College, Ancaster, Ontario, Canada and President, Christians Associated for Relationships with Eastern Europe
Emily A. Peacock, Circuit Judge, 13th Judicial Circuit of Florida, Tampa, Florida
Doug Pennoyer, Dean, School of Intercultural Studies, Biola University
Howard Pepper, M.A., M.Div., President, Nurture Press, San Diego, CA
Douglas Petersen, Margaret S. Smith Professor of Intercultural Studies, Vanguard University of Southern California
Rev. Edward Prevost, Rector, Christ Church, Winnetka, Illinois
Bruce G. Privratsky, Elder, Holston Conference, United Methodist Church
Sally M. Promey, Professor of Religion & Visual Culture, Professor of American Studies, Professor Religious Studies and Deputy Director, Institute of Sacred Music, Yale University
Rev. Erl G. Purnell, Rector, Old Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church, Bloomfield, CT
Rev. John C. Ramey, President, Aslan Child Rescue Ministries and President, The Olive Branch Institute
Robert M. Randolph, Chaplain to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA
Thomas P. Rausch, S.J., T. Marie Chilton Professor of Catholic Theology, Loyola Marymount University, Los Angeles, CA
James D. Redington, S.J., Associate Professor in the Dwan Family Chair of Interreligious Dialogue, Jesuit School of Theology at Berkeley/Graduate Theological Union, CA
David A. Reed, Professor Emeritus of Pastoral Theology and Research, Wycliffe College, Univerity of Toronto, Canada
Neil Rees, International Director, World Horizons
Rev. Warren Reeve, Lead Pastor, Bandung International Church, Bandung, West Java, Indonesia and Founder and Facilitator of the Missional International Church Network
Rodney Allen Reeves, Former moderator of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in Oregon and board member, Greater Portland Institute for Christian-Muslim Understanding and member, Interfaith Council of Greater Portland.
Dr. Evelyne A. Reisacher, Assistant Professor of Islamic Studies and International Relations, Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena, CA
Cornel G. Rempel, Retired pastor, chaplain and supervisor of clinical pastoral education, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Steve Robbins, Pastor and Director, Vineyard Leadership Institute
Cecil M. Robeck, Jr., Professor of Church History and Ecumenics, Fuller Theological Seminary and the Director of the David du Plessis Center for Christian Spirituality
Leonard Rodgers, Executive Director, Evangelicals for Middle East Understanding: An International Coalition, Tempe, AZ
Dudley C. Rose, Lecturer on Ministry and Associate Dean for Ministry Study, Harvard Divinity School
Rev. Herschel Rosser, Associate Pastor, Vineyard Church of Sugar Land, Stafford, TX and Texas Area Church Planting Coordinator, Vineyard, USA
Glenna N. Roukes, Elder, First Presbyterian Church, Santa Cruz, CA and Secretary, Mission Team
Philip Ruge-Jones, Associate Professor of Theology, Texas Lutheran University, Seguin, Texas
William L. Sachs, Director, Center for Reconciliation and Mission, St. Stephen's Episcopal Church, Richmond, Virginia
Robert A. Sain, Pastor, Messiah Lutheran Church, ELCA, Hildebran, NC
Lamin Sanneh, D. Willis James Professor of Missions and World Christianity, Yale University
Andrew D. Saperstein, Associate Director of the Reconciliation Program at the Yale Center for Faith and Culture
Tyler Savage, Missionary with Church Resource Ministries, Germany and South Africa
Meritt Lohr Sawyer, International Program Director, Langham Partnership International
Warren C. Sawyer, President and CEO, The Caleb Foundation, Swampscott, MA
Rev. Dr. Christian Scharen, Director, Faith as a Way of Life Program, Yale Center for Faith & Culture
Rev. Dr. Robert Schuller, Founder, Crystal Cathedral and Hour of Power
Elizabeth Schüssler Fiorenza, Krister Stendahl Professor of Divinity, Harvard Divinity School
Francis Schüssler Fiorenza, Stillman Professor of Roman Catholic Studies, Harvard Divinity School
William Schweiker, Edward L. Ryerson Distinguished Service Professor of Theological Ethics, University of Chicago
Waldron Scott, President emeritus, Holistic Ministries International, Paterson, NJ
Andrew J. Sebanc, Senior Pastor, Green Timbers Covenant Church, Surrey, British Columbia, Canada
Rev. Donald Senior, C.P., President, Catholic Theological Union, Chicago, Illinois
C. L. Seow, Henry Snyder Gehman Professor of OT Language and Literature, Princeton Theological Seminary
Rev. Dr. Perry Shaw, Chair, Faculty of Ministerial Studies, Arab Baptist Theological Seminary, Beirut, Lebanon
Michael T. Shelley, Director, Center of Christian-Muslim Engagement for Peace and Justice, Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago
David W. and K. Grace Shenk, Global Consultants, Eastern Mennonite Missions, Salunga, PA
Wilbert R. Shenk, Senior Professor of Mission History and Contemporary Culture, Fuller Theological Seminary
John N. Sheveland, Assistant Professor of Comparative Theology, Gonzaga University, Washington, DC
Marguerite Shuster, Harold John Ockenga Professor of Preaching and Theology, Fuller Theological Seminary
Frederick J. Sigworth, Professor, Department of Cellular and Molecular Physiology, Yale University
Mark Siljander, Member of the U.S. Congress (r) & fm U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. (atl del)
Walt Simmerman, Pastor, First United Methodist Church, Galax, VA
The Community Council of the Sisters of the Precious Blood, Dayton, OH. Sister Florence Seifert, CPPS, President; Sister Jeanette Buehler, CPPS, Vice-President; Sister Madonna Ratermann, CPPS, Councilor; Sister Edna Hess, CPPS, Councilor; Sister Marita Beumer, CPPS, Councilor
C. Donald Smedley, Associate Director, The Rivendell Institute, New Haven, CT
John D. Spalding, Founder and Editor, SOMAreview.com
Rev. Andrew Spurr, Vicar of Evesham with Norton and Lenchwick Diocese of Worcester
John G. Stackhouse, Jr., Sangwoo Youtong Chee Professor of Theology and Culture, Regent College, Vancouver, Canada
Glen H. Stassen, Lewis B. Smedes Professor of Chrisian Ethics, Fuller Theological Seminary
Sally Steenland, Senior Policy Advisor, Faith & Progressive Policy Initiative, Center for American Progress, Washington, DC
Wilbur P. Stone, Program Director and Lead Faculty, Global and Contextual Studies, Bethel University/Seminary
Rev. Dr. John Stott, Rector Emeritus, All Souls Church, Langham Place, London, UK
Frederick J. Streets, The Carl and Dorothy Bennett Professor in Pastoral Counseling, The Wurzweiler School of Social Work, Yeshiva University, Adjunct Associate Professor of Pastoral Theology, Yale Divinity School, Former Yale University Chaplain
Diana Swancutt, Associate Professor of New Testament, Yale Divinity School
Merlin Swartz, Professor of Islamic Studies, Boston University
Donald K. Swearer, Director, Center for the Study of World Religions, Harvard Divinity School
Dr. Glen A. Taylor, Cooperative Studies Teaching Fellow, Tajikistan State National University, Dushanbe, Tjikistan
William Taylor, Global Ambassador, World Evangelical Alliance
Harvey Thiessen, Executive Director, OM Canada
Rev. John Thomas, General Minister and President, United Church of Christ
Stephen Thomas, European Team Leader, Salt & Light Ministries Senior Pastor, Oxford, UK
Dr. J. Milburn Thompson, Chair and Professor of Theology, Bellarmine University, Louisville, KY
Iain Torrance, President, Princeton Theological Seminary
Emilie M. Townes, Andrew Mellon Professor of African American Religion and Theology, Yale Divinity School, and President-elect of the American Academy of Religion
Michael W. Treneer, Internation President, The Navigators, Colorado Springs, CO
Geoff Tunnicliffe, International Director, World Evangelical Alliance
Fr. Benjamin J. Urmston, S.J., Director Emeritus Peace and Justice Programs, Xavier University, Cincinnati, OH
Birgit Van Hout, Executive Director, MCCJ, Florida
George Verwer, Founder and former International Director, OM
Harold Vogelaar, Director Emeritus: A Center of Christian-Muslim Engagement for Peace and Justice, Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago
Miroslav Volf, Founder and Director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture, Henry B. Wright Professor of Theology, Yale Divinity School
Fr. H. Eberhard von Waldow, Professor Emeritus, Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
Rev. Berten A. Waggoner, National Director, Association of Vineyard Churches
Robin Wainwright, President, Middle East Fellowship, Pasadena, CA and Chairman of the Executive Committee, Oxford Centre for Mission Studies
Dr. Dale F. Walker, Affiliate Professor, Asbury Theological Seminary, Wilmore, KY
Jim Wallis, President, Sojourners
Charlotte R. Ward, Associate Professor of Physics, Emerita, Auburn University and Life Deacon, Auburn First Baptist Church
Charles H. Warnock III, Senior Pastor, Chatham Baptist Church, Chatham, VA
Rick Warren, Founder and Senior Pastor, Saddleback Church, and The Purpose Driven Life, Lake Forest, CA
Very Rev. Debra Warwick-Sabino, Rector, Grace Episcopal Church, Fairfield, CA
Mark R. Wenger, Director of Pastoral Studies, Lancaster Eastern Mennonite Seminary P.O., Lancaster, PA
Dr. Bob Wenz, Renewing Total Worship Ministries, Colorado Springs, CO
Rev. Laura Westby, Pastor, First Congregational Church of Danbury, CT
Robert R. Wilson, Hoober Professor of Religious Studies, Associate Dean for Academic Affairs, Yale Divinity School
Rev. Michael D. Wilker, Executive Director, Lutheran Volunteer Corps, Washington, DC
Leslie Withers, Coordinator, Interfaith Pilgrimage Project, Friendship Force International, Atlanta, GA
Dr.John Wolfersberger, Retired Executive, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Southern California
Nicholas Wolterstorff, Senior Fellow, Institute for Advanced Studies in Culture, University of Virginia
J. Dudley Woodberry, Professor of Islamic Studies and Dean Emeritus of the Fuller School of International Studies
Rev Dr Christopher J H Wright, International Director, Langham Partnership International, London, UK
John Wright, Senior Pastor, Trent Vineyard, Nottingham, England
Godfrey Yogarajah, General Secretary, Evangelical Fellowship of Asia
Rev. Andrea Zaki Stephanous, Vice President of the Protestant Church in Egypt, Director of Dar El Thaquafa Communications House-CEOSS
Rev. John D. Zeigler, First Presbyterian Church, PCUSA, Canton, TX

A listing of other signatories follows. These signatories primarily include those whose names have been received in writing through this website, and in most cases have not been reconfirmed. We regret that due to the overwhelming response, we have not been able to include all people who wrote asking to be added to the list.

Rob Acheson, Chairman, Toronto Chapter, Canadian Department of Peace Initiative
Peter Adams, Intercultural Relations Worker, St Mary’s Church, Luton, England
Rev. William J. Adams, Rector, Trinity Episcopal Church, Sutter Creek, CA
Dr. Rev. Tokunboh Adeyemo, Executive Director, Centre for Biblical Transformation (CBT), Nairobi, Kenya
Justin Anderson, member, First Baptist Church, Washington, D.C.
Fidel Arnecillo, Jr., Lecturer in Philosophy, California State University, San Bernardino, College / Career Pastor, Charisma Life Community Church, Pomona, CA
Rev. Dianne Astle, Pastor, Chemainus/Cedar United Church, BC, Canada
Chris J Baltzley, Director of Multi-Campus Development, Lakeside-Orangevale Campus Pastor, Lakeside Church, Folsom, California USA
Andrew Tower Barnhill, Furman University, Greeneville, SC
Rev. D. Clyde Bartges, Minister, Presbyterian Church USA, Midlothian, VA
Dr. Anthony Bartlett, Assistant Professor of Theology, Bexley Hall Episcopal Seminary, Rochester, New York
Rev. Ann Barton, Pastor, McKenzie United Methodist Church Honey Grove, TX
Marilyn R. Barry, Academic Dean and Professor of English, Alaska Pacific University, Anchorage, AK
Rev. Rosemary D. Baue, Pastor, Union Chapel (UCC), Fishers Island, NY
Bruce Baumgartner, OSB, Spiritual Director
Dr. Jolly Beyioku, Associate Professor, Indiana Wesleyan University, Marion, IN
Cheryl Biller, Elder Presbyterian Church USA, Fargo, ND
Dr. William L. Bingham, Associate Prof. Emeritus, NC State University, Raleigh NC, and President of Triangle Interfaith Alliance (NC)
Luke Birky, Goshen, IN
Barbara Blodgett, Director of Supervised Ministries, Yale Divinity School, New Haven, CT
Stephen Blum, Professor of Music, CUNY Graduate Center
Whitney S. Bodman, Assoc. Professor of Comparative Religion, Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary, Austin, TX
Dr. Dean A. Boldon, Professor Emeritus, Maryville College, Maryville, TN
Prof. Eduard J. Bomhoff, Director, School of Business, University of Nottingham, Malaysia Campus Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Richard Bowser, Sunland Park, NM
Rev. M Christopher Boyer, Pastor, Good Shepherd Baptist Church, Lynnwood, WA
Matt Brandon, Frontier Trek & Tours, Travel Photographer
Mark Lau Branson, Homer Goddard Associate Professor of Ministry of the Laity, Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena, CA
Timothy Brenneman, Harrisonburg, VA
Linda C. Brinkman, Naples, FL
Margaret Brookover, Mother, Teacher, CODEPINK leader, Bend, OR
Stephen Brown, Chaplain, St. Joseph's Medical Center, Stockton, CA
Rev. Judy Buck-Glenn, Associate Rector, Christ Church Episcopal, Ridley Park, PA
Rev. Dr. Ned A. Buckner, LMFT, Pastor, New Hope Baptist Church, Gastonia, NC, Marriage & Family Therapist, Piedmont Psychological Associates, Gastonia, NC
Robert & Betty Lou Buckwalter, Prince of Peace Mennonite Church, Anchorage, Alaska
George D. Burazer, coordinator of the Justice and Peace Committee of Queen of the Apostles Catholic Church, Belmont, NC
Dawn Burdick, Nazareth Presbyterian Church, Moore, SC
Julie Burgess, Omaha, NE
Rev. J Daniel Burke, Episcopal priest, retired
John Buttrey, Retired Pastor, United Church of Christ, Holland, Michigan
Rev. Dr. Josephine C. Cameron, Pastor, Riverdale Presbyterian Church, Bronx, NY
Vincent M. Cannistraro, Cannistraro Associates, McLean, VA
Mark Carey, Doctor of Physical Therapy Student, Grand Valley State University, Grand Rapids, MI
Joseph P. Carson, PE, President, Affiliation of Christian Engineers, Knoxville, TN
Dan R. Cates, Assistant Professor, Kutztown University, Kutztown, PA
Liz Cates
Sister Lynn Caton, CSJ, Sisters of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Rev. James H. Cavanaugh, UCC pastor retired, Uplands Retirement Village, TN
Patricia Anne Cavanaugh, Recognized UCC Lay Pastor, Uplands Retirement Village, TN
Rev. Paul Chaffee, Executive Director, Interfaith Center at the Presidio, San Francisco, CA
Rev. Dr. W. Michael Chittum, Minister
Susan Civil-Brown, author
Scott Claassen, Los Angeles, CA
W. Malcolm Clark, Professor of Religion (emeritus), Butler University, Indianapolis, IN
Michael Clawson, Pastor, Via Christus Community Church, Yorkville IL
Jeffrey C. Clayton, Pastor, Southminster Presbyterian Church, Prairie Village, KS
Adam Walker Cleaveland, M.Div./M.A., Princeton Theological Seminary, Princeton, NJ
Bruce J. Clemenger, President, The Evangelical Fellowship of Canada, Kenneth L. Clum, Rochester, NY
Tim Cochran, Member, McGregor Baptist Church (Southern Baptist), Fort Myers, FL
David Cooper, Picton Uniting Church, Picton, NSW Australia
Yvonne Cooper, Picton Uniting Church, Picton, NSW Australia
Victor Copan, ThD, Chair, Dept. of Ministry Leadership Studies Palm Beach Atlantic University, West Palm Beach, FL
Rev. Christopher Cottingham, Hospice Chaplain, Member of Emmanuel Baptist Fellowship, Lexington, SC
Charles Courtney, Professor Emeritus, Drew University, Madison, NJ
Dr. James D. Cramer, Secretary, Atlantic City Mission Board, Episcopal Diocese of New Jersey
Mrs. Cheryl Crist, Pentecostal, Peru, Indiana
Jane F. Crosthwaite, Professor, Mount Holyoke College
Alistair Crow, Transform Network, London, UK
Bobbi Crow, Global Outreach Team, Real Life Christian Church Gilbert, Arizona Common Ground Consultation Attendee
John Matthew Cummins, Chatham, NJ
Mark Czyzewski, SFO
Kathleen Danaher de Cardenas, Garner, NC
The Rev Dr. Lillian Daniel, Senior Minister, First Congregational Church, UCC, 535 Forest Ave, Glen Ellyn, Illinois, 60137
Dru Daugherty
Rev. Dr. Julian A. Davies, Pastor, The University Church, Toledo, OH
John T. DeBevoise, Pastor, Palma Ceia Presbyterian Church, Tampa, FL
Dr. Ralph Del Colle, Theology Department, Marquette University, Milwaukee, WI
Rev. Colette Volkema DeNooyer, Holland, MI
Robert J. DeNooyer II, Holland, MI
Frannie Derm, Independent Scholar, Waterbury, CT
Paige DeWees, Student, Luther Seminary, St. Paul, MN
Rev. Dr. Winfield J. Devonshire, Jr., Senior Pastor, The Evangelical Lutheran Church of the Holy Trinity, Hershey, PA
Eileen McCafferty DiFranco, East Regional Administrator, WomenPriests
Reverend Johan Dodge, Compass Point Church, Paso Robles, CA
Jane Dugdale, member, Central Baptist Church, Wayne, PA
Rev. Jeffrey S. Dugan, Rector, St. James Episcopal Church, Farmington, CT
Brenda Manthorne Dyck, spiritual director, pastor, Calgary Inter-Mennonite Church, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Omar and Anna Kathryn Eby, Harrisonburg, VA
Jason von Ehrenkrook, Ph.D. Candidate (Near Eastern Studies), University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI
Rusty Eidmann-Hicks, Holmdel Community UCC, Holmdel, NJ
Dr. Matthias Eigenbrodt, Praxis am Viktoriapark, Berlin, Germany
Dr. Stewart L. Elson, Willcox United Methodist Church, Willcox, Arizona
Rev. Daniel J. Fahs, Pastor, Hayward United Methodist Church, Hayward, WI
Audry Falk, Artist
Richard Falk, former Chair Board of Trustees, The Friendship Force
Steven Fenwick Ph.D., Counselor in private practice, Olympia, WA
Sandra L. Fischer, Esq., Cooperative M. Div. student, Hartford Seminary, Hartford, CT
Rev. Dr. David C. Fisher, Senior Minister, Plymouth Church, Brooklyn, NY
Rev. Tim Fitch, Minister of Family Life First Congregational Church of Akron
Rev. Carey D. Fletcher, Red River Baptist Church, Benton, LA
Patrick Foley, Educator
Rev. Dr. F. Peter Ford, Jr., Coordinator of the Program in Christian-Muslim Relations, Mekane Yesus Seminary, Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
John R. Franke, Professor of Theology, Biblical Seminary, Hatfield, PA
Barbara Freeman, Church Musician, Haslett Community Church (UCC), Haslett, MI
Matthew Friedman, Th.M. Candidate, Asbury Theological Seminary
Makoto Fujimura, Artist
Clarice Garvey, Our Lady’s Missionaries Fortaleza,Ceará, Brazil
Gary A. Gaudin, Pastor, South Arm United Church, Richmond, British Columbia, Canada
Sr. Christine Gebel, Our Lady’s Missionaries, Toronto, Canada
Cheryl German, Knoxville, TN
Alexander J. G. Gilchrist, Elder, Presbyterian Church USA, Wappingers Falls, NY
Rev. Douglas W. Giles, MDiv, STS, Retired Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada (ELCIC), Cold Lake, Alberta, Canada
Michael Glenn, Cashiers, NC
Leon & Elaine Good, Lititz, PA
Ave Regina Gould, CSJ, Sisters of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
James Goulding, Professor Emeritus and VP for Academic Affairs, Emeritus, MacMurray College in Jacksonville, IL; currently Instructor in Religious Studies, Edgewood College, Madison, WI
Rev. Benjamin Gray, Youth pastor, Griffin, GA
Dr. Victor Greene, Chaplain, Angel Hospice, Franklin, NC
Jeanette Grenz, Overland Park, KS
Kenneth K. Grenz, Overland Park, KS, retired clergy, Kansas East Conference, United Methodist Church
Carol S. Guilbert, Reverend, First Presbyterian Church of Hilton Head Island
Brian Gumm, Interim Lay Pastor, Ankeny Church of the Brethren, Ankeny, Iowa
Anne-Marie Gustavson-Claverie, sister of bishop Pierre Claverie of Algeria
Ellen Halperin, Member, St. John the Baptist Episcopal Church, Hardwick, VT
Elaine S. Hansen, Fairfield, OH
Hendrik Hart, Senior Member (ret'd), Institute for Christian Studies, Toronto, Canada
Peter C. Hart, President, Dialoggers, Inc., Holland, MI
Rev. Dr. William L. Hathaway, Pastor, First Presbyterian Church, Annapolis, MD
Rev William L. Hawkins, Pastor, First Presbyterian Church, New Bern, NC
Rob Hazel, High Wycombe, England
Eike J. Heinze, Hartford, WI
Rev. Amanda Hendler-Voss, Faith Communities Coordinator, Women's Action for New Directions (WAND)
Rev. Abigail A. Henrich, Co-Pastor, Union Congregational Church, East Walpole, MA
Scott Hinton, First Congregational Church of Glen Ellyn, IL
Sheryll Hix, Behavior Specialist, Stuart , Florida
Rev. Mark E. Hoelter, Unitarian Universalist, Coordinator for Grassroots Interfaith Dialogues, The InterFaith Conference of Metropolitan Washington, Washington, DC
Shirley Eid Holm, Church Librarian, Grace Lutheran Church, River Forest, IL
Rev. Charles Homeyer, Rector of Holy Cross Episcopal Church, Grand Rapids, MI
Jon Hoover, Assistant Professor of Islamic Studies, Near East School of Theology, Beirut
Rev. David M. Horst, Minister, First Parish in Malden, Universalist, Malden, MA
Imogen Hawthorne Howe, West Redding, CT
Lieutenant-Colonel (Retired) Alan Howes, Australian Regular Army, Canberra, Australia
Robert W. Huntington 3rd, MD, Member, Madison Wisconsin Monthly Meeting, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
Carol Ingells, Spiritual Director, Episcopal lay leader, Lansing, MI
Carlos Iwaszkowiec, Sales Director, MECS, Inc., St. Louis, MO
Dr. Mary Ellen Jacobs, University of Connecticut Health Center, Farmington, CT
Linda Jame, MS, ACSW, Psychotherapist, New York, NY
Charles B. Jenkins, Church of the Messiah United Methodist, Westerville, Ohio and member of the Interfaith Association of Central Ohio
Jeromy Johnson, Pastor, Sacramento, CA
Joseph L. Johnson, Pastor, Evergreen Presbyterian Church, Dothan, AL
R. Boaz Johnson, Ph.D., Director, Division of Christian Life and Thought, North Park University, Chicago, IL
Rev. Dr. Gregory Knox Jones, Westminster Presbyterian Church, Wilmington, DE
Margaret Jayne Jones, Co-Contact, United Religions Initiative, San Francisco Peninsula
Susan Jones, Cary, NC
Jolyn Joslin, retired teacher, member of United Church of Christ, Waitsfield, VT
Rev. Daniel Junkuntz, D. Min., (ELCA), LMFT, LPC, Retired Director, Peninsula Pastoral Counseling Center, Newport News, VA
Sister Karen Kaelin, Sisters of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Abdul Kasim, Vice President, Critical-Links, New Jersey
Robert Mace Kass, M.D., Trustee, Bekeley Divinity School at Yale
Mona Kelly, Our Lady´s Missionaries, Forta leza, Ceará, Brazil
Rev. D. Andrew Kille, Interfaith Space, San Jose, CA
Rev. Mike King, President, YouthFront; Pastor, Jacob’s Well Church, Kansas City, MO
Ann King-Grosh, Lancaster, PA
Rev. Kurt Kirchoff, Haslett, MI
Ann Kirkland, Toronto, Canada
Michael Kirtley, President, The Friendship Caravan, Arlington, VA
Dr. Robin J. Klay, Professor of Economics, Hope College, Michigan
Charles Klingler, Professor Emeritus of English, Manchester College, North Manchester, IN
Susie Klingler, Member of Manchester Church of the Brethren, North Manchester, IN
Rev. Alfred C. Krass, VP, The Interfaith Gathering of Lower Buck County, PA, retired United Church of Christ pastor, United Christian Church, Levittown, PA
Mark Kurtz, Director of Business Development, BioOne, Washington, DC
Vincent La Marca, Webmaster, New Utrecht Reformed Church , Assistant Secretary, Friends of Historic New Utrecht, Brooklyn, NY
Perry Landes, Lighting and Sound Designer, Hope College, Holland MI
Andrew E. Larsen, Department of World Mission, The Evangelical Covenant Church of North America, Chicago, IL
Rev. Rebecca Larson, Pastor, Monadnock Congregational Church, UCC, Colebrook, NH
Thiel L. Larson, Educator, Bend La-Pine School District in Bend, OR
Michael Lauchlan, Dearborn, MI
Stephen Lawson, Joplin, MO
Paul Leggett, Pastor, Grace Presbyterian Church, Montclair, NJ
“Let There Be Peace” Prayer and Reflection Group, St. Noel Catholic Church, Willoughby Hills, OH
Norman Lindholm, Ohio
Dr. Scott Little, Lay Leader, First United Methodist Church, Smithville, TN
Jerry Ludeke
Matthew D. Lundberg, Assistant Professor of Theology, Calvin College, Grand Rapids, MI
Dr. Elaine Z. Madison, Associate Professor of Literature, Hawaii Pacific University, Honolulu, HI
Brent D. Maher, Upland, IN
Velandy Manohar, MD, FAPA, Distinguished Life Fellow, Am. Psychiatric Association, Haddam, CT.
Natalia Marandiuc, Ph.D. Student, Theology, Yale University
Dr. Henry B. Marksberry, Minister of Health and Wholeness, St. John’s United Church of Christ, Newport, KY
Rev. Ben C. Martin, Honorably Retired, Presbytery of Giddings-Lovejoy, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), St. Louis, MO
Caleb J.D. Maskell, PhD student, Department of Religion, Princeton University
Martha B Matuska, “Let There Be Peace” Prayer and Reflection Group, St. Noel Catholic Church, Willoughby Hills, OH
Shaun Mazurek, Denver, Colorado
Sister Regina McAuley CSJ, Brentwood NY
Pastor Sandy McCormack, Soma Christou International, Houston, TX
Deborah McEvoy, Dearborn, MI
Rev. Loren McGrail, Chaplain at Abbott Northwestern Hospital Minneapolis, MN
Dr. James F. McGrath, Assistant Professor of Religion, Butler University, Indianapolis, IN
Maryann McHugh, CSJ, sister of St. Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Mickey J. Mercer, Teacher, Flagstaff High School, Flagstaff, AZ
Nathan Messarra, Ecclesia Clear Lake, Friendswood, TX, USA
Roel Meeuws, M.Sc. Delft University of Technology, Delft, member of the Reformed Church of the Netherlands as present in the Pilgrimfatherschurch, Rotterdam, the Netherlands
Rev. Michael Merkel, Pastor, Bethesda Lutheran Church, New Haven, CT
Elizabeth Moody, Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Catholic Church, Mill Valley, CA., and member, World Religions Building Bridges Program Committee with Marin Interfaith Council, International Assoc. of Sufism, and Dominican University in Marin County, CA
Re. David L. Mosher, Co-Minister, Unity of Loudoun County, Leesburg, VA
Daniel H. Miller, Chaplain, Houston Hospice and Palliative Care System, Houston, TX
Luke Miller, National Coordinating Group Member, Emergent Village, Dallas, TX
Rosa Lynne Miller, Asbury United Methodist Church, Lafayette, LA
The Rev. Dr. W. Douglas Mills, Associate General Secretary for Dialogue and Interfaith Relations, General Commission on Christian Unity and Interreligious Concerns, The United Methodist Church, New York, NY
Timothy D. Moore, Teacher, Milwaukee, WI
Barbara Mueller, teacher emerita, Holy Cross Lutheran Church, Ft. Wayne
John Mueller, Minister of Music, Holy Cross Lutheran Church, Ft. Wayne, IN
John Mulholland, University of Chicago Law Library staff, Chicago IL
Rev. Dr. Stephen Butler Murray, College Chaplain, Director of Religious and Spiritual Life, and Lecturer in Religion, Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs, New York
Stephanie Nash, Pastor for Education and Outreach, Second Baptist Church, Lubbock TX
Bradley Nassif, Professor of Biblical and Theological Studies, North Park University, Chicago, IL
Norm Nelson, President, Compassion Radio, Lake Forest, CA
Carole Nuckon, Bend, Oregon
Rev. Gus Nussdorfer, Interim, First Presbyterian Church, Bryan, OH
Clarke K. Oler, Associate Pastor, All Saints Episcopal Church, Pasadena, CA
Steven J Ondersma, Assistant Professor, Wayne State University School of Medicine & Deacon, PCUSA
Robert C & Roberta G Ouderkirk, Normandy Park, WA
John D. Painter, Pastor, Centenary United Methodist Church, Metichen, NJ
Dr. Stepehn Pavey, Research Associate, Institute for Community Research, Hartford, CT
Rev. Dr. Protobresbyter Professor George C. Papademetriou
Rev. Jeanne C. Parker, clergywoman, ABC/RGR, Rochester, NY
Rev. Urbane Peachey, retired Pastor, formerly in Middle East, Lititz, PA
Michael Peacock, seminarian, chaplain, attorney; Palma Ceia Presbyterian Church, Tampa, Florida
Jonathan Pedrone, Youth Pastor, New Testament Baptist Church, Miami, FL
Dan Peters, Thousand Oaks, CA
Reverend Clare L. Petersberger, Minister, The Towson Unitarian, Universalist Church Lutherville, MD
Gene Peterson, Board Member, Churches Together, Minneapolis, MN
Prof. Joseph M. Pirone, Ph.D, Sam Draper Honors Program, SUNY and Advisor, Awareness in Motion, Interfaith Club Enneapsychodramatics
Rev. Vincent Pizzuto, Ph.D., University of San Francisco, CA, New Skellig Contemplative Christian Community
Keith Plate, MD, International Student Ministry, Iowa City, IA
Kenneth Polsley Jr., Pastor, All Nations Baptist Church, Iowa City, IA
Eve Pope, Trustee Emeritus, United Religions Initiative
Viola Deavours Powers, Cincinnati, OH
Alfred C. Price, Philadelphia, PA
Stan Purdum, Pastor, Centenary United Methodist Church, Waynesburg, OH
Georgia Quailey, Pittsburgh, PA
Rev. Charles W. Rawlings, Presbytery of Newark Middle East Work Group, NJ
David Redfield, Episcopalian, Grosse Pointe, MI
Dr. Donald H. and Mary M. Reimer, Charlesewood Mennonite Church, Winnipeg, Manitoba
Dr. Andreas Renz, Lecturer, LMU Munich, Germany
David Reynolds, Australia
Robert E. Riddle, First Presbyterian Church, Asheville, N.C.
Jack Ridl, Professor Emeritus of English, Hope College, Holland, MI
Rev. Marchiene Rienstra, Minister, Unity Church on the Lakeshore, Douglas, MI
Dr. Kevin Riggs, Senior Pastor, Franklin Community Church, Franklin, TN and Sociology Professor, State Community College, Nashville, TN
Dr. M. K. Rigsby, Professor of Philosophy and Religion, Eastern New Mexico University, Portales NM
Mark Andrew Ritchie, Author, Commodities Trader
Heath and Courtney Robinson, Temple, TX
Rev. Dr. Errol G Rohr, Chaplain, King College, Bristol, TN
Rev. Betsy Payne Rosen, Deacon, Our Saviour Episcopal Church, Mill Valley, CA
Rosetta E. Ross, Associate Professor of Religion, Spelman College, Atlanta,
Georgia
Rev. Dr. Greg Roth, Senior Pastor, Centerville Presbyterian Church, Fremont, CA
Chaplain Reggie B. Rowell, Medical University of Charleston, Charleson, SC
Dr. Mark Rutledge, United Church of Christ Campus Minister at Duke University, Durham, NC
Fleming Rutledge, Episcopal Diocese of New York
Phil Saksa, International Student Specialist, Detroit, MI
Tim Samoff, Blogger, Kansas City, MO
Alan P & Maria G Sandner, First Presbyterian Church, Bend, Oregon
Clara Santoro, CSJ
David G. Delos Santos, ICT Specialist, PACTEC International, Kabul, Afghanistan
Edwin G. Saphar, Jr, Elder, Downtown United Presbyterian Church, Rochester, NY
Brother Satyananda, Minister, Self-Realization Fellowship, Los Angeles, CA
Theresa Scanlon, Principal, St. Francis of Assisi School, Brooklyn, NY
Rev. Dr. Jill Schaeffer, United Presbyterian Church of Cincinnatus, NY and Adjunct Professor, New York Theological Seminary, New York, NY
Andrew Schill, Oil and Gas Attorney, Durango, Colorado
Rev. Mark Schindler, Unity of Auburn, Auburn, CA
Perry Schmidt-Leukel, Professor of Systematic Theology and Religious Studies, University of Glasgow, Chair of World Religions for Peace
Carolyn Schneider, Associate Professor of Theology, Texas Lutheran University, Seguin, TX
Edward H. Schreur, Senior Pastor, Protestant Church in Oman, Muscat, Sultanate of Oman
Glen G. Scorgie, Ph.D., Bethel Seminary, San Diego
Jonathan H. Scruggs, Associate Pastor, First Assembly of God, Gastonia, NC
Pastor Timothy Seitz-Brown, Paradise Lutheran Church (ELCA), Thomasville, PA
Robert P. Sellers, Connally Professor of Missions, Logsdon School of Theology, Hardin-Simmons University, Abilene, TX
Samir Selmanovic, Program Director, Faith House Manhattan, New York, NY
Emily Shaffer, US Department of State, Kigali, Rwanda
Donna Shank, LCSW, Lancaster, PA
Joey Shaw, Masters candidate at Center for Middle East Studies and LBJ School of Public Affairs, The University of Texas at Austin
N. Gerald Shenk, Professor of Church & Society Eastern Mennonite Seminary, Harrisonburg, VA
Rev. Dr. Stephen J. Sidorak, Jr., Executive Director, Christian Conference of Connecticut
Frederick A. Smith, MD, Consultant in Palliative Medicine, North Shore-Long Island Jewish Health System, Assistant Professor of Medicine, NYU School of Medicine, Communicant, Christ Episcopal Church, Garden City,
Paul. V. Sorrentino, Director of Religious Life, Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Rebecca L. Syme, MATL student - Bethel Seminary, St. Paul, MN, USA
Rev. Andrea Zaki Stephanous, Ph. D., Vice President of the Protestant Church in Egypt, Director of Dar El Thaqafa Communications House-CEOSS
Rev. John Paul Sydnor, Assistant Professor of World Religions, Emmanuel College (Boston) and Co-Pastor, Union Congregational Church, East Walpole, MA
Jim Somerville, Pastor, The First Baptist Church of the City of Washington, DC
Dr. Barbara Spitzer, Clinical Psycholoogist, Stamford, CT
Rev. Susan F. Sprowls, Campus Pastor, Lord of Light Lutheran Campus Ministry (ELCA), University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI
Rev. Lauren R. Stanley, Episcopal Missionary in Sudan
Rev. Harvey Stob, Pastor of Congregational Life, Ann Arbor Christian Reformed Church, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Arthur J. Stock, member Wellesley Village Church, and former Chair Board of Directors, Massachusetts Conference, United Church of Christ
John K. Stoner, Consultant, Every Church A Peace Church, Akron, PA
Rev. Jim Strader, Episcopal Chaplain/Priest, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ
James A. Strnal, Secular Franciscan Order
Dan Sullivan, Saint Augustine's Episcopal Church,Wilmette IL
Helen Katharine Swearingen
Christine Talbott, Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Castine, ME
Dennis Teall-Fleming, Director of Faith Formation, Queen of the Apostles Catholic Church, Belmont, NC and Facilitator, Gaston Trialogue (Jews, Christians, and Muslims), Gaston County, NC and Instructor in Religion, Gaston College, Dallas, NC
Rev. Dr. Mari Thorkelson, Pastor Bethel Lutheran Church, Willmar MN
Rev. Dr. James A Todd, Honorably Retired, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), Member of the Presbytery of Southern New England
John L. Tipton, CEO, Telephone Jack's Communications, Adrian, MI
Judy and Woody Trautman, Founding Co-Chairs of the MultiFaith Council of Northwest Ohio, Toledo, Ohio
Barbara H. Trought, Elder, Presbyterian Church (USA), Burlington, NJ
Monte D. Tucker
Rev. Philip H. Troutman, M.Div., Ordained Elder, Church of the Nazarene, Doctoral Student, Asbury Theological Seminary, Wilmore, KY
James and Susan Vagnier, Columbus, OH
Rev. Dr. Timo Vasko, The Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland, Espoo
Sister Nancy Vendura, CSJ, Sisters of Saint Joseph, Brentwood, NY
Dr. David H. Vila, Associate Professor of Religion and Philosophy, John Brown University, Siloam Springs, AR
Marlene M. von Friederichs-Fitzwater, Assistant Adjunct Professor, Division of Hematology/Oncology, UC Davis School of Medicine and Director of Outreach Research and Education, UC Davis Cancer Center
Case Wagenvoord, Chair, Adult Education Committee, Holmdel Community UCC, Holmdel, NJ
Rev. Dr. Francis K. Wagschal, Retired Lutheran Pastor, Waynesville, NC
Barbara Wall, Certified speech and language pathologist Bandhagen, Sweden
Sammy Wanyonyi, World Evangelist, Sammy Wanyonyi International Ministries (SWIM), Minneapolis, MN
Michael J. Watts, Instructor in Religion, Johnston Community College, Smithfield, NC
Derek Ivan Webster, Beth Emunah Messianic Synagogue, Agoura Hills, CA
Rev. Gordon V. Webster, Co-Pastor, Downtown United Presbyterian Church, Rochester, NY
Rev. Dr. Dave Weidlich, Pastor, First Presbyterian Church of Petaluma, Petaluma, CA
Susan Weissert, Ossining, NY
Rev. Terry Weller, Interfaith Minister and Editor, Interfaith Unity Newsletter, Toronto, ON, Canada
Charlie West, Pastor, Grace/Skandia United Methodist Churches, Marquette, MI
Roger G. Whetsel, Engineering Consultant, Winchester, TN
Jerald Whitehouse, Director, Global Center for Adventist Muslim Relations,
General Conference of Seventh-Day Adventists, Loma Linda, CA
Rev. Dr. Gary A. Wilburn, Senior Pastor, First Presbyterian Church, New Canaan, CT
Prof. Stefan Wild, University of Bonn, Germany
Bett and Talbert Williams, St Anne's Episcopal Church, Atlanta, GA
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PostPosted: Thu 8 Sep - 15:18 (2011)    Post subject: CHRISLAM : ONE WORLD RELIGION "ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION... Reply with quote

CHRISLAM: ONE WORLD RELIGION "ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION" BIBLE PROPHECY!!

To : paulbegley34 - I agree with you about Chrislam, but you support peoples who are part of this conspiracy. You didn't check the links I send to you showing you who is Billy Graham? Billy Graham always support Rick Warren, CFR member and freemason. Billy Graham is working for Homeland Security and prepare christians to obey to government. In charge of pagan festivals and always be part of the World Council of Churches. Please analyze what I send to you to inform correctly peoples and christians. - Maria

Theologian Paul Begley of Indiana Exposes "Chrislam" on 6/26/2011 50 Pastors will read from their Pulpits the Quran!! The UN formed in San Fransico on 6/26/1945 or 66 years to the day, the New World Order began to formed, and now 66 years later the One World Religion is forming with "Chrislam" led by Rick Warren!!

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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 15:31 (2012)    Post subject: THE CORNERSTONE FELLOWSHIP CENTER - RICK WARREN Reply with quote

THE CORNERSTONE FELLOWSHIP CENTER - RICK WARREN

Know your enemy. Illuminati logo, the all-seeing eye "eye of Lucifer" and a planet has pupil.

What this planet represent that you cand find at the Vatican and many others Illuminati place?



Something REALLY weird happened today !!! This is a fun video and mind blowing

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"Simply put, Freemasons, under the direction of Haym Salomon, Ben Franklin, and others, designed the Great Seal with its all-seeing eye in the capstone amidst the radiant sun bakground. As followers of Egyptianism, it has long been assumed that the eye is that of Osiris, the Egyptian sun god, and/or of his son, Horus."

Codex Magica
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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 15:32 (2012)    Post subject: CHRISLAM'S RICK WARREN PARTNERING WITH MOSQUES TO TEACH THAT GOD AND ALLAH ARE THE SAME Reply with quote

CHRISLAM'S RICK WARREN PARTNERING WITH MOSQUES TO TEACH THAT GOD AND ALLAH ARE THE SAME



Rick Warren and Chrislam 2.0

Rick Warren has decided to spend his time and wealth promoting the hybrid Chrislam religion.

RELATED STORY: Click here to read about Rick Warren’s beginnings in Chrislam… http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=1366

From WND: (OCREGISTER) — The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.

The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.

Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people. (The game pitted pastors and imams against teens from both faiths. The teens won.)

The effort by a prominent Christian leader to bridge what polls show is a deep rift between Muslims and evangelical Christians culminated in December at a dinner at Saddleback attended by 300 Muslims and members of Saddleback’s congregation. source – WND

From Stand Up For The Truth: This past Sunday, a major shift was announced by Pastor Rick Warren at his Saddleback Church in Orange County, California, that has many Christian leaders concerned. As Saddleback hosted its ”celebration of Jesus (pbuh),” attended by a number of Muslim communities in Southern California, something theologically significant happened at the dinner portion of the event.

Only a select number of people were invited to the dinner. A document one year in the making was presented which encourages Christians and Muslims to “appreciate the similarities of our faiths.” What does this mean? Is it simply a way to reach out a helping hand to the communities in Southern California, or is something more serious happening? source – Stand Up For The Truth

From Time: WASHINGTON — Defying some of his fellow conservative Christian critics, one of the most prominent religious leaders in the country told several thousand American Muslims on Saturday that “the two largest faiths on the planet” must work together to combat stereotypes and solve global problems. source – MSNBC

From Jim Hinch: Saddleback Church in Orange County, California, home to super-pastor Rick Warren (Obama inauguration, Purpose Driven Life, etc.) has joined forces with Southern California mosques to adopt a three-step plan for ending enmity between evangelical Christians and Muslims.

The plan’s first step calls for Muslims and Christians to recognize they worship the same God. Interfaith reconciliation has been proceeding for years between Muslims and more liberal-leaning mainline Protestant denominations.



Saddleback Church in Orange County, California, home to super-pastor Rick Warren (Obama inauguration, Purpose Driven Life, etc.) has joined forces with Southern California mosques to adopt a three-step plan for ending enmity between evangelical Christians and Muslims.


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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 15:34 (2012)    Post subject: RICK WARREN LANCE UN RAPPROCHEMENT AVEC L'ISLAM... Reply with quote

RICK WARREN LANCE UN RAPPROCHEMENT AVEC L'ISLAM ET DÉCLARE: « NOUS ADORONS LE MÊME DIEU »

par nicolas le 28 février 2012

The Orange County Register


Le pasteur motivé par un objectif… Mais lequel?

Le pasteur Rick Warren, qui dirige l’église de Saddleback à Lake Forrest est considéré comme l’un des dirigeants chrétiens les plus influents aux Etats-Unis. Dans une campagne visant à guérir les blessures entre musulmans et évangéliques, il lance un partenariat avec des mosquées du sud de la Californie.

Dans les principes théologiques qu’il met en avant figure celui-ci: reconnaître que chrétiens et musulmans adorent le même Dieu. La campagne est l’apogée d’années de rapprochement avec les musulmans. Warren a rompu le jeûne du ramadan dans une mosquée à Mission Viejo, rencontré 8’000 musulmans dans une de leurs rencontre nationale à Washington D.C. Les membres de l’église Saddleback ont invité des musulmans au repas de Noël et lancé un tournoi de football « interfoi » lors d’un pique-nique où se retrouvèrent plus de 300 personnes, essentiellement des jeunes.

L’initiative de Rick Warren est présentée comme « une tentative de mettre fin à 1400 ans d’incompréhensions entre musulmans et chrétiens ». Co-écrit avec un responsable de mosquée, le document présentant la campagne met l’accent sur les points de convergence entre l’islam et le christianisme.

Selon ce document, chrétiens et musulmans croient en « un seul Dieu » et partagent deux commandements centraux: « aimer Dieu » et « aimer son prochain ». Le document fixe trois objectifs: devenir amis, construire la paix et travailler à des projets sociaux. Des versets de la Bible et du Coran viennent en appuis de chacun de ces points.

« Nous nous sommes mis d’accord de ne pas nous évangéliser mutuellement », a déclaré Jihad Turk, responsable d’une mosquée à Los Angeles et co-rédacteur du texte. « Nous témoignerons les uns aux autres mais dans l’optique d’aimer son prochain et sans se focaliser sur la conversion ». Fils d’une évangélique méthodiste américaine et d’un père musulman palestinien, Turk a choisi de s’engager dans l’Islam après avoir exploré ses racines musulmanes en Arabie Saoudite et en Iran.


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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 15:34 (2012)    Post subject: MIKE HOGGARD : THE BIBLICAL CASE AGAINST RICK WARREN Reply with quote

MIKE HOGGARD: THE BIBLICAL CASE AGAINST RICK WARREN



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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 17:55 (2012)    Post subject: RICK WARREN "ONE WORLD" ALL FAITHS PRAYER FOR OBAMA Reply with quote

RICK WARREN “ONE WORLD” ALL FAITHS PRAYER FOR OBAMA

Remember, I told you 2 years ago about the faith of Obama and the GLOBAL P.E.A.C.E plan of Rick Warren. I show you also some months ago, an article from a bishop who told us that they will faith against islamophobia. What does it mean? That they will fight against the good seed of the Lord. This, will be the new untiy they will IMPOSE to the world in the name of PEACE and JUSTICE and since 11-11-11, we are enter in this new area.


This is a transcrïpt of Rick Warrens prayer for President Obama, made 20th of January 2009 at the lawn of the White House.


Rick Warren blessed Obama using Islams "Esa" in the same prayer as he used "Jesus".

Almighty God, our father, everything we see and everything we can’t see exists because of you alone. It all comes form you, it all belongs to you, it all exists for your glory. History is your story.

The scrïpture tells us, ‘Hear, oh Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one’ and you are the compassionate and merciful one and you are loving to everyone you have made.

Now today we rejoice not only in America’s peaceful transfer of power for the 43rd time, we celebrate a hinge-point of history with the inauguration of our first African American president of the united states.

We are so grateful to live in this land, a land of unequaled possibility, where a a son of an African Immigrant can rise to the highest level of our leadership. And we know today that Dr. King and a great cloud of witnesses are shouting in heaven.

Give to our new president, Barack Obama, the wisdom to lead us with humility, the courage to lead us with integrity, the compassion to lead us with generosity. Bless and protect him, his family, Vice President Biden, the Cabinet and every one of our freely elected leaders.

Help us, oh God, to remember that we are Americans. United not by race or religion or by blood, but to our commitment to FREEDOM and JUSTICE for all. When we focus on ourselves, when we fight each other, when we forget you, forgive us.

When we presume that our greatness and our prosperity is ours alone, forgive us. when we fail to treat our fellow human beings and all the earth with the respect that they deserve, forgive us.

And as we face these difficult days ahead, may we have a new birth of clarity in our aims, responsibility in our actions, humility in our approaches and civility in our attitudes—even when we differ.

Help us to share, to serve and to seek the common good of all. May all people of good will today join together to work for a more just, a more healthy and a more prosperous nation and a peaceful planet.

And may we never forget that one day, all nations, all people will stand accountable before You. We now commit our new president and his wife Michelle and his daughters, Malia and Sasha, into your loving care.

I humbly ask this in the name of the one who changed my life—Yeshua, Esa, Jesus, Jesus—who taught us to pray:
Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be they name. They kingdom come, they will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.

Amen.

Source: Jewish Journal

This is the first time I have studied the transcrïpt of the prayer Rick Warren used to bless Obama, as a Muslim by birth entered the White House.

There is a lot of stuff in this prayer that will please people of all faiths. It is not challenging to anyone.

1. ‘Hear, oh Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one’

No Jew will be offended by this. Jesus quoted the Torah, and explained that He and the Father are One. They are singular, One, always in agreement. But in form, Elohim is a plural Hebrew word. God is three in One. God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

2. “and you are the compassionate and merciful one”.


Every Muslim will rejoice, that Warren feels the Bible told Israel this. Because the “merciful One” in not “The great I AM”, but “allah”.

He is “allah – there is no deity but Him. He is the Knower of the Unseen and the Visible. He is the All-Merciful, the Most Merciful. He is “allah”.

Source: The way of the Mahdi

113 of 144 Surahs in the Koran, starts with this name of “allah”: Merciful. All Merciful, and Most Merciful.

Here is Surah 65 in the Koran.

Do you not see that Allah has made subservient to you whatsoever is in the earth and the ships running in the sea by His command? And He withholds the heaven from falling on the earth except with His permission; most surely Allah is Compassionate, Merciful to men..

Some more points:

3. “And we know today that Dr. King and a great cloud of witnesses are shouting in heaven”.

The Pope claims he knows who has made it to heaven. The Pope is infallible when he canonize departed saints. Rick Warren has the same powers. He know “Dr. King is in Heaven”, even shouting, celebrating the outcome of the American election. That is Amazing.

4.I humbly ask this in the name of the one who changed my life—Yeshua, Esa, Jesus, Jesus—who taught us to pray:

All Muslims must have rejoiced, when Warren acknowledged that Jesus and the Muslim prophet Isa (Esa) is the same man.

 If not so, why are they mentioned in the same prayer?

This is the most shocking to me. I never thought Warren would expose his universalism, by using Esa in his blessings of the Obamas.

Who is Esa?

What is he doing inside a Christian prayer?

To my best knowledge Rick Warren is a double talker.

He do not practice what he preach. We can acknowledge his universalism, by reading this prayer. Warren is a dangerous false teacher of a new “god” who accept lawlessness. Warren use the name of “Jesus” for his own convenience.

The rise of “Chrislam” is going on. Saddelback Church, a member of World Council of Churches (WCC), has taken the lead.

Written by Ivar


http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/rick-warren-one-world-all-faiths-…


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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 18:59 (2012)    Post subject: RICK WARREN DISTORTS THE INSTRUCTION OF JESUS TO FIT HIS GLOBAL PEACE PLAN Reply with quote

RICK WARREN DISTORTS THE INSTRUCTIONS OF JESUS TO FIT HIS GLOBAL PEACE PLAN

 On August 17th, acclaimed interviewer and broadcast journalist Charlie Rose interviewed Rick Warren. You may listen to this broadcast by clicking here. (You will have to let this file load.) In the interview, Rose and Warren discuss the Purpose Driven Life paradigm and its relation to Christianity in North America and around the world. Here are a few of the comments:1. Rick Warren states there are over 2 billion Christians in the world, and says that this number includes hundreds of millions of Catholics.

2. Warren said that, with regard to his book, "I couldn't figure out why it became such a phenomena. I think now it was because God wanted to provide a platform for these other issues we care about." (Warren's 5 global giants)

3. "I've been taking people, irreligious people, people with no background in any kind of faith or they haven't been to church or synagogue or temple in forty years ... and we take them where they need to be.... My goal is to move the American church [away] from self-centered consumerism.

This interview showed very clearly Warren's dream to see Christians and Catholics join together, stating that "minor doctrinal differences" should not keep them separated. "What I am interested in is bringing the church together ... we are never going to agree on a lot of things, but I found we do agree on purpose." He talked about the purposes that all Catholics and Protestants agree on.

But as he has done so many times in the past, Warren took his ecumenism a big step further than just a union of Catholics and Protestants. As Warren did at the Pew Forum on Religion last year, he explained to Rose his "man of peace" concept and said that every village, every government, every place has a man (or woman) of peace: "The man of peace is open and influential ... and here's the other thing, the man of peace does not have to be a Christian believer ... could be Muslim, could be Jewish." Warren said that Jesus sent out his disciples to go find the man of peace in every village. He said Jesus sent them out to find people who would work with them on solving poverty, sickness and the other problems of the world.(He said that they did not have to agree with the disciples message or beliefs.) In the same vein, Warren said that we don't have to have the same religion or moral beliefs to work with people on poverty, disease, etc. As an example he said he just met with the President of the gay-activist group ACT UP, and asked him, "Eric [Sawyer], how can I help you get your message out?" Sawyer answered, "Use your moral authority." Warren then said to Rose, "I'm working with these guys ... I'm looking for a coalition of civility, which means let's get back to the original meaning of tolerance. (See our previous post on Rick Warren's "coalition of civility.")

Warren has made a terrible distortion of what scrïpture actually says. Jesus told his disciples to go out and call people to repentance whereas Warren is suggesting that we are to ignore our differences (including moral differences) and work together for peace (peace was not a goal that Jesus gave the disciples but rather was a blessing the disciples could give to a house that received their message):

These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.... Now whatever city or town you enter, inquire who in it is worthy, and stay there till you go out. And when you go into a household, greet it. If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!" Matthew 10:5- 15

"Who's the man of peace in any village - or it might be a woman of peace - who has the most respect, they're open and they're influential? They don't have to be a Christian. In fact, they could be a Muslim, but they're open and they're influential and you work with them to attack the five giants. And that's going to bring the second Reformation." Rick Warren, May 23, 2005, Pew Forum on Religion.

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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 19:28 (2012)    Post subject: THE FIVE FUNDAMENTALS OF FAITH Reply with quote



THE FIVE FUNDAMENTALS OF FAITH

COMMENTAIRE DE MARIA

Par cet article, vous comprendrez comment une des têtes dirigeantes du milieu évangélique, Rick Warren est en train de faire non seulement un «acte de trahison» envers Dieu et Sa Parole mais est en train d'entraîner la haine même des chrétiens qui eux se positionnent pour protéger l'Évangile de Christ et la base du christiannisme. Voici ce que Rick Warren dit :

The Five Fundamentals of Faith

1. The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2. The Virgin Birth.
3. The Blood Atonement.
4. The Bodily Resurrection.
5. The inerrancy of the scrïptures.

Rick Warren says that these are "a very legalistic, narrow view of Christianity." We are just wondering which ones of these five he feels that way about. Rick Warren Speaks on Catholicism, the Essentials of the Faith, Peter Drucker, and Global Peace

Il n'est donc pas surprenant que la persécution vient aussi de l'intérieur même des Églises qui disent appartenir à Christ. Quand je dis à mes frères et soeurs qu'ils sont en danger spirituellement en allant dans ces églises, plusieurs ne me croient pas. Les églises qui promouvoient l'enseignement de Rick Warren se détournent du plan initial que Dieu  a donné aux hommes et ils mettent ainsi leur âme et leurs droits en danger. Remarquez comment les chrétiens ne sont pas informés des pièges que l'ennemi leur tend présentement. Remarquez le silence des pasteurs sur la situation mondiale actuelle et ceux qui le font sont souvent très loin de comprendre le problème réel de l'oeucumenisme mondial et l'adhésion à l'Islam et au Catholicisme faite de manière subtile sous le couvert du Nouvel-Âge.

Je vous démontrerai avec ce topic comment toutes les religions enseignent maintenant la même doctrine que Rick Warren afin d'amener cette unité spirituelle dont le Dieu Tout-Puissant n\'a plus sa place. Un bonbon empoisonné pour amener toute esprit sous «The United Religions» (Religion mondiale).



RICK WARREN SPEAKS ON CATHOLICISM THE ESSENTIALS OF THE FAITH, PETER DRUCKER, AND GLOBAL PEACE

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WHO'S THE MAN OF PEACE IN ANY VILLAGE

Rick Warren "Who's the man of peace in any village - or it might be a woman of peace - who has the most respect, they're open and they're influential? They don't have to be a Christian. In fact, they could be a Muslim, but they're open and they're influential and you work with them to attack the five giants. And that's going to bring the second Reformation." (Warren)

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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 20:15 (2012)    Post subject: TELL GOD : WHATERVER IT TAKES, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, ANYWAY Reply with quote

TELL GOD: WHATEVER IT TAKES, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, ANYWAY

VOYEZ COMMENT CET HOMME DÉMONIAQUE, RICK WARREN LANCE UN APPEL DE SOUMISSION AUX MEMBRES DES DIFFÉRENTES ÉGLISES ÉVANGÉLIQUES.

SI CET HOMME ÉTAIT VRAIMENT UN HOMME DE DIEU, IL DÉNONCERAIT CE QUI SE POSITIONNE AU NIVEAU INTERNATIONAL : LA DICTATURE MONDIALE, LES IMPLANTS, LES CAMPS DE CONCENTRATION, LA TORTURE, LA PERTE DES DROITS DIVINS, L'ISLAMISATION DU MONDE ENTIER, COMME FUTURE RELIGION MONDIALE, ETC. CE QUI PREND PLACE PRÉSENTEMENT MET EN GRAND DANGER DES MILLIERS DE PERSONNES QUI SONT ÉGARÉES PAR CET HOMME.

NOUS POUVONS VOIR QUE CELUI-CI SE POSITIONNE PLUTÔT COMME UN ARDENT DÉFENSEUR DE CETTE MONDIALISATION SPIRITUELLE. SOYONS SUR NOS GARDES CONTRE UN TEL SERPENT, CAR CELUI-CI FAIT DE GRANDS RAVAGES DANS LE CORPS DE CHRIST.

EN UTILISANT LA PHRASE «
I'm going God's way» CETTE PHRASE A POUR BUT DE CONTINUER À ENDORMIR LES CROYANTS, QUI N'ONT AUCUNE IDÉE DE L'INFILTRATION DE LA FRANC-MACONNERIE ET DES SATANISTES DANS LEUR ÉGLISE. CEUX-CI SONT DONC AMENÉS, PAR LA RUSE, À NE PAS DÉSOBÉIR CONTRE CE NOUVEL ORDRE MONDIAL QUI PREND PLACE.

NOUS AVONS VU, DANS D'AUTRES DOCUMENTS, COMMENT LES PASTEURS SERVIRAIENT D'INTERMÉDIAIRE ENTRE LE GOUVERNEMENT ET LE PEUPLE AFIN QUE LE PEUPLE, TEL DES BREBIS QU'ON MÈNE À L'ABATTOIR, NE SE REBELLE PAS, LORSQUE LA LOI MARTIALE SERA EN VIGUEUR EN AMÉRIQUE. CE DOCUMENT NOUS MONTRE LA PROGRAMMATION MENTALE QUI SE FAIT DANS LES ÉGLISES ÉVANGÉLIQUES AFIN DE PRÉPARER LE TERRAIN.


by Jon Walker
2008/01/01

­­“Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus..”  
(Philippians 3:13b-14 NIV)

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

When Saddleback Church celebrated its 25th anniversary, Rick Warren called for a radical commitment from God's people — all over the world — to tackle the giant obstacles that keep people in spiritual darkness.

In this new year, we can “press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called [us] heavenward in Christ Jesus” (Philippians 3:13b-14, NIV). We can, once again, affirm our commitment to the work of the Great Commission. My prayer is that we will view this declaration as a covenant with God, promising him that from now we will do whatever it takes: anytime, anywhere, anyway.


A CALL TO RADICAL COMMITMENT

By Rick Warren

Today I am stepping across the line. I'm tired of waffling, and I'm finished with wavering. I've made my choice; the verdict is in; and my decision is irrevocable. I'm going God's way. There's no turning back now!

I will live the rest of my life serving God's purposes with God's people on God's planet for God's glory. I will use my life to celebrate his presence, cultivate his character, participate in his family, demonstrate his love, and communicate his Word.

Since my past has been forgiven, and I have a purpose for living and a home awaiting in heaven, I refuse to waste any more time or energy on shallow living, petty thinking, trivial talking, thoughtless doing, useless regretting, hurtful resenting, or faithless worrying.

Instead I will magnify God, grow to maturity, serve in ministry, and fulfill my mission in the membership of his family.

Because this life is preparation for the next, I will value worship over wealth, “we” over “me,” character over comfort, service over status, and people over possessions, position, and pleasures. I know what matters most, and I'll give it all I've got. I'll do the best I can with what I have for Jesus Christ today.

I won't be captivated by culture, manipulated by critics, motivated by praise, frustrated by problems, debilitated by temptation, or intimidated by the devil. I'll keep running my race with my eyes on the goal, not the sidelines or those running by me.

When times get tough, and I get tired, I won't back up, back off, back down, back out, or backslide. I'll just keep moving forward by God's grace. I'm Spirit-led, purpose-driven and mission-focused, so I cannot be bought, I will not be compromised, and I shall not quit until I finish the race.

I'm a trophy of God's amazing grace, so I will be gracious to everyone, grateful for everyday, and generous with everything that God entrusts to me.

To my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I say: However, whenever, wherever, and whatever you ask me to do, my answer in advance is yes! Wherever you lead and whatever the cost, I'm ready. Anytime. Anywhere. Anyway.

Whatever it takes Lord; whatever it takes!

I want to be used by you in such a way, that on that final day I'll hear you say, "Well done, thou good and faithful one. Come on in, and let the eternal party begin!"

What does this mean?

Today, I affirm this commitment to God and submit to his plans and purposes for my life, no matter what it takes.


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SAN DIEGO CHRISTIAN LEADER PAYS STEEP PRICE FOR SPEAKING OUT AGAINST RICK WARREN

Saturday, December 29, 2007

Church Pulpit:

Christian Activist James Hartline Loses Well-Known Media Support
After Signing Published Letter That Calls On Rick Warren To Stop
Allowing Pro-Abortion & Pro-Homosexual Speakers In His Pulpit

(JHReport) A nationally recognized Christian activist has learned firsthand that there is a steep price to pay for speaking out against the moral corruption of one of America's most powerful Protestant ministers. Despite the high cost to himself personally, James Hartline has been willing to expose, what he says, is a disturbing trend of theological and moral compromise coming from the pulpit of Rick Warren, pastor of the 20,000-member Saddleback Church.

Included in Hartline's laundry list of complaints against Pastor Warren is the recent speaking engagement of pro-gay and pro-abortion Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton at Saddleback Church. Hillary Clinton's invitation from Warren to speak at his church followed a speech by Clinton before the radical gay activist group The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) where she told the HRC "she wants a partnership with gays if elected president."


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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 21:15 (2012)    Post subject: RICK WARREN DONNE LA GLOIRE À L'ÉPOUSE Reply with quote

9 juin 2008 SOYEZ ALERTE!

RICK WARREN DONNE LA GLOIRE À L'ÉPOUSE

Mise à jour Faux Prophète : Faites attention à Todd Bentley, et maintenant John Crowder et toute l’armée d’anges démoniaques déchus des voyants illuminés

Traduction : Esther Chrétien

C’est ça qui est ça…

Osée 7 :13-15
«Malheur à eux, parce qu'ils me fuient !
Ruine sur eux, parce qu'ils me sont infidèles !
Je voudrais les sauver, Mais ils disent contre moi des paroles mensongères.
Ils ne crient pas vers moi dans leur coeur,
Mais ils se lamentent sur leur couche ;
Ils se rassemblent pour avoir du blé et du moût, Et ils s'éloignent de moi.
Je les ai châtiés, j'ai fortifié leurs bras ; Et ils méditent le mal contre moi.»

2 Timothée 4:3-4
«Car il viendra un temps où les hommes ne supporteront pas la saine doctrine ; mais, ayant la démangeaison d'entendre des choses agréables, ils se donneront une foule de docteurs selon leurs propres désires, détourneront l'oreille de la vérité, et se tourneront vers les fables.»

J’ai souvent imaginé combien graves les choses allaient être à mesure que le jour approche mais je dois admettre que je suis stupéfié de la dépravation qui se passe dans le ministère Chrétien dans le nom du SEIGNEUR et dans le nom de notre Sauveur Le Seigneur Jésus Christ.

Cette alerte couvre un nombre de développements récents concernant Rick Warren et la nouvelle bande de faux prophètes.

Les deux premiers articles du WorldNet Daily (WND), un écrit par Rick Warren lui-même et qui est un débat sur une déclaration que M. Warren admet avoir fait que l’Épouse, qui est l’Épouse de Christ (l’église) devrait recevoir la gloire. Joseph Farah du WND conteste le raisonnement de Warren et est correct dans son commentaire.

Le troisième article vient de nos frères et soeurs en Christ de Herescope ayant un grand discernement et qui font une excellente analyse de la mauvaise manipulation des écritures de Rick Warren.    

L’article numéro quatre démontre M. Warren brisant un commandement direct de la Parole de Dieu, dans 1 Corinthiens 5, dans une action du ministère officiel de ‘l’église’ mangeant avec des soi-disant Chrétiens qui sont dans une relation immorale et qui sont ‘fiers’ de cela.

Dans la 7e partie d’une série, Mike Oppenheimer a ajouté quelques commentaires additionnels à l’alerte de Todd Bentley et je suggère à chacun de le lire. Quoique petit dans l’ensemble, j’étais étonné du nombre de courriels que nous avons reçus de personnes fâchées et concernées pour avoir appelé Todd Bentley un faux prophète.  Encore une fois, c’était le même ‘ne touche pas au oint de Dieu’ ou ‘tu ne jugeras point’ mais un manque complet de réelle connaissance, de compréhension et de discernement.

Les derniers articles sont des liens vers des vidéos dérangeants de ces nouveaux ‘prophètes’ qui, c’est à espérer,  aideront à renforcer les nombreux avertissements qui sont donnés.

SOYEZ ALERTE!

Scott Brisk

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1) DONNEZ LA GLOIRE À DIEU!

WORLDNETDAILY - Par Joseph Farah – 30 mai 2008

Cela fait pas mal de temps que je n’ai pas écrit à propos de Rick Warren – presque quatre mois pour être exact
(http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpjcL-ZgTeGkZ3SeM4p7ZNzleOMS098ax9UWKwv8-mnT6YCbGpuJsbgNpMC2YB3t5bDokcms1srwBh6Tp7kqnKAVGRDIXlgRUc0Z6GxRgS4CBnxEVRrVsV_vbSIUJunyN8y8rnVFPjzsFjJxZs7BILCtB_6w8_bCu3S0SjLxnxsz9w==).

J’avais promis de m’abstenir parce qu’il y a beaucoup de sujets importants à être discutés dans ce monde qui est nôtre – même lorsque vous écrivez six articles par semaine.

Il n’y a pas tellement longtemps, j’ai eu l’opportunité de rencontrer Rick Warren lors d’une conférence nationale des pasteurs.  Nous avons eu une conversation plaisante, et il était amical même si j’avais été très critique envers lui. Il a même insisté pour que nous soyons photographiés ensemble.

Mais je suis désappointé de dire que j’ai un autre problème avec le ministère de Rick Warren. Et je crois que cela en est un qui est très significatif.

La fin de semaine dernière, j’ai reçu un communiqué de presse de son organisation annonçant le succès d’une conférence tenue en Californie afin de créer ‘la Coalition pour PEACE, une nouvelle alliance internationale des églises, du monde des affaires, des ministères, des universités et d’autres institutions’.

J’avais été invité par Warren pour assister à la conférence mais je ne pouvais pas y aller.

L’idée derrière la Coalition pour PEACE (‘The PEACE Coallition’), qui veut dire 'Promouvoir la réconciliation, Équiper les leaders serviteurs, Aider le pauvre, Soigner les malades et Éduquer la prochaine génération', est que l’église peut résoudre plusieurs des problèmes les plus graves dans le monde, comme la pauvreté et la maladie, avec l’aide des autres religions, des gouvernements et du monde des affaires.

J’ai expliqué auparavant pourquoi l’utopie œcuménique est non biblique
(http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpjcL-ZgTeGkZ3SeM4p7ZNzleOMS098ax9UWKwv8-mnT6YCbGpuJsbgNpMC2YB3t5bDokcms1srwBh6Tp7kqnKAVGRDIXlgRUc0Z6GxRgS4CBnxEVRrVsV_vbSIUJunyN8y8rnVFPjzsFjJxZs7BILCtB_6w8_bCu3S0SjLxnxsz9w==). Je ne toucherai pas à ce sujet encore une fois.

Mais je me sens contraint dans mon esprit d’être en désaccord avec une déclaration faite par Rick Warren à propos de sa tentative.

Warren a été cité comme ayant dit durant un communiqué de presse : 'Lors d’un mariage l’épouse est le caractère principal, le centre, le début du spectacle – tous les autres sont des membres supporteurs, mais la gloire va à l’épouse.'  'Le Plan de PEACE est construit sur le même principe.  L’Épouse de Christ – de laquelle l’église est son expression partout dans le monde – mérite d’être le centre d’intérêt, le crédit et la gloire pour avoir fidèlement servi leurs communautés année après année'.

J’ai écrit à Rick Warren concernant mes inquiétudes.  Il ne lui reste qu’à me répondre. Alors voici le morceau.

Alors qu’il peut être vrai que dans les autres mariages, l’épouse est l’étoile et reçois la gloire, cela ne sera pas vrai aux noces de Jésus. IL est l’étoile. IL reçoit la gloire.

En fait, dans tout ce que nous faisons en tant que croyants, on nous demande de donner la gloire à Dieu.

Ce n’est pas l’église qui reçoit la gloire. Ce n’est pas le corps de croyants qui reçoit la gloire. Ce n’est aucun membre individuel du corps qui reçoit la gloire. C’est une personne – le Fils de Dieu.

IL devrait recevoir la gloire pour tout ce qui est fait en SON nom, non pas l’église – même pas les églises indigènes locales héroïques, qui font un travail merveilleux en nourrissant l’affamé, en donnant asile au sans-abri et en prenant soin du pauvre.

J’étais certain que Rick Warren serait d’accord avec moi sur ceci, je voulais lui donner une chance de clarifier sa remarque avant de la rendre publique. Puisque je n’ai pas entendu parler de lui et que presque une semaine s’est écoulée, j’ai ressenti le besoin de rendre publique ce fait, afin d’en faire la correction.

Pourquoi Dieu reçoit-Il toute la gloire? Parce que tout ce que nous sommes et avons Lui appartient. Il nous a créé – de rien.  Il est celui qui nous donne le pouvoir de faire toutes choses que nous faisons – d’accomplir quoique ce soit que nous accomplissons. Il n’est pas simplement le général qui donne des ordres. Il est le souffle de notre vie.

Les croyants doivent faire attention à propos du langage que nous utilisons en ce qui a trait à Dieu par crainte d’induire en erreur les gens – les croyants et les non-croyants tout autant.

À cause de leur position et des auditoires qu’ils rejoignent, il est encore plus important pour les leaders pasteurs de s’en tenir à la Bible en tant que standard.

Il est temps de donner toute la gloire à Dieu.

Il n’y a rien que nous ne puissions accomplir en Son nom. Et nous n’avons pas besoin que d’autres religions, le monde des affaires ou des gouvernements pour nous aider lorsque notre partenaire est le Créateur de l’univers.

* Rapport Original Ici –
http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpg8R5hOMgBEgICtiMiEG3lVEY5Tjnf2dlE4zlIH…

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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 21:17 (2012)    Post subject: 2) DONNER À LA "PAIX" UNE CHANCE Reply with quote

2) DONNER À LA «PAIX» UNE CHANCE WORLDNETDAILY - Par Rick Warren – 2 juin 2008
Note de l’éditeur: Ce qui suit est une réponse à l’article de Joseph Farah, 'Donnez la gloire à Dieu! '
(La réplique de Farah apparaîtra demain).

Je crois que Jésus Christ mérite toute la gloire.  C’est le but de la vie.  Le thème énoncé du plan de PEACE est, 'Pour la gloire globale de Dieu'. Cette déclaration est imprimée sur le matériel de PEACE. Nos membres, et d’autres églises qui sont dans PEACE l’appellent la déclaration '3-G'.  Une église en Caroline du Nord a construit une 'Maison pour le Dieu de Gloire Globale' (Global Glory of God house) qui héberge des missionnaires de PEACE.

Joseph, tu sais que je ne réponds pas aux critiques en général, mais nous ne pouvons ignorer ce que la Bible dit à propos de ce sujet important. Il s’avère que j’ai une étude Biblique sur laquelle j’ai écrit là dessus. La voici.

1.  La Bible affirme clairement dans plusieurs passages importants que Dieu veut que Son corps et épouse reçoive la gloire.

Paul a ordonné que les deux, Christ et son épouse reçoivent la gloire :


«--- à Dieu soit la gloire dans l'Église et en Jésus Christ, dans toutes les générations, aux siècles des siècles ! Amen !» Éphésiens 3 :21 (NIV).«Christ est mort afin de se donner l’église telle une épouse dans toute sa glorieuse beauté.  Il est mort afin que l’église soient pure et sans tache, avec rien de diabolique ou de péché ou aucune autre chose de mal en elle.» Éphésiens 5:27 (NCV).

«La gloire appartient à Dieu dans l’église et dans le Christ Jésus dans toutes les générations, aux siècles des siècles ! Amen !»  Éphésiens 3:21 (GW).

«Dieu est Celui qui a fait toutes choses, et toutes choses sont pour sa gloire.  Il voulait avoir beaucoup d’enfants pour partager sa gloire, donc il a fait Celui qui dirige le peuple vers le salut parfait par la souffrance.» Hébreux 2:10 (NCV).

«Puisse-t-il recevoir la gloire dans l’église et dans le Christ Jésus à jamais et jamais dans tous les siècles des siècles. Amen.» Éphésiens 3 :21 (NLT).

«Chaque jour je meurs, je veux dire que, frères – aussi sûrement que je me glorifie de vous en Jésus Christ notre Seigneur.» 1 Corinthiens 15 :31 (NIV).

Tu es certainement d’accord avec ces versets, n’est-ce pas, Joseph?


2.  Jésus déclare clairement qu’Il reçoit la gloire par Son église. Il a dit que l’église est Sa gloire!

«Et eux tous, et depuis qu’ils sont miens ils vous appartiennent; et vous me les avez redonnés, donc ils sont ma gloire!» Jean 17:10 (NLT).«Et nous, qui à visages découverts reflétons tous la gloire du Seigneur, sommes transformés à sa ressemblance avec une gloire toujours grandissante, qui vient du Seigneur, qui est l’Esprit.»  2 Corinthiens 3 :18 (NIV).

«Et tout ce que je possède est à vous, et tout ce que vous possédez est à moi.  Et la gloire est venue vers moi par eux.»  Jean 17 :10 (NIV).

«Paul se glorifiait dans l’église et leur a dit : Oui, vous êtes notre gloire et notre joie.» 1 Thessaloniciens 2:20 (NIV).

3.  Christ veut que son église partage sa gloire!


De donner la gloire à l’épouse et au corps de Christ donne la gloire à Christ. Le plan éternel de Christ a toujours été de partager sa gloire à jamais avec cette église, son épouse. Le salut, la sanctification et la glorification viennent entièrement de la doctrine Chrétienne.

«Et maintenant, une parole pour vous qui êtes anciens dans les églises.  Moi aussi je suis un ancien et un témoin des souffrances de Christ. Et moi aussi, je partagerai sa gloire et son honneur lorsqu’il reviendra.»  1 Pierre 5 :1 (NLT).

«Christ est notre vie, et lorsqu’il reviendra, vous partagerez sa gloire.»  Colossiens 3 :4 (NCV).

«À cause de notre foi, Christ nous a amenés dans cet endroit de grand privilège où nous nous tenons maintenant, et nous regardons avec confiance et joie vers le partage de la gloire de Dieu.» Romains 5 :2 (NLT).

«Maintenant, si nous sommes enfants, nous sommes aussi héritiers : héritiers de Dieu, et cohéritiers de Christ, si toutefois nous souffrons avec lui, afin que nous puissions aussi participer à sa gloire.»  Romains 8 :17 (NIV).

«Déjà ce que nous endurons maintenant n’est rien comparé à la gloire qu’il nous donnera plus tard.» Romains 8 :18 (NLT).

«Tout ce que Dieu a créé attend avec excitation que Dieu démontre complètement la gloire ses enfants.»  Romains 8 :19 (NCV).

«--- que tout ce que Dieu a créé soit libéré de la ruine pour avoir la liberté et la gloire qui appartiennent aux enfants de Dieu.»  Romains 8 :21 (NCV).

«Et ceux que Dieu a mis à part, il les a appelés; et ceux qu’il a appelés, il les a mis justes devant lui, et il a partagé sa gloire avec eux.»  Romains 8 :30 (TEV).

«Et comme sujets de sa miséricorde, nous avons été préparés d’avance pour la gloire.  Et s’il a fait ceci pour faire connaître les richesses de sa gloire aux sujets de sa miséricorde, lesquels il a préparés d’avance pour la gloire ---» Romains 9 :23 (NIV).

«Comme il a plu à Dieu de dire à son peuple que les richesses et la gloire de Christ sont également pour vous, les Gentils.  Car ceci est le secret : Christ vit en vous, et ceci est votre assurance que vous partagerez dans sa gloire.»  Colossiens 1 :27 (NLT).

«Christ est votre vie, et lorsqu’il reviendra, vous partagerez sa gloire.» Colossiens 3 :4 (NCV).

«Il vous appelés à ceci par notre évangile, afin que vous puissiez partager la gloire de notre Seigneur Jésus Christ.»  2 Thessaloniciens 2 :14 (NIV).

«Et lorsque le souverain pasteur paraîtra, vous obtiendrez la couronne incorruptible de la gloire.»  1 Pierre 5 :4 (NLT).

J’ai remarqué que plus j’honore le corps de Christ, plus Dieu me bénit.

4. «Si nous sommes vraiment sérieux à propos d’apporter la gloire à Dieu  nous devons nous aimer et nous accepter les uns les autres en Christ, plutôt que de s’entredéchirer. L’unité glorifie Dieu. Diviser et accuser les Chrétiens ne glorifie pas Dieu.» Romains 15:7 (NCV).

«Qu'il ne sorte de votre bouche aucune parole mauvaise, mais seulement ce qui est utile pour édifier les autres selon leurs besoins, afin que cela puisse bénéficier à ceux qui écoutent.» Ephésiens 4:29 (NIV).

«Mais la vraie sagesse qui vient des cieux est premièrement pure.  Elle est également pacifique, délicate en tout temps, et volontaire à se plier aux autres. Elle est pleine de miséricorde et de bonnes intentions. Elle ne démontre aucune partialité et est toujours sincère. Et ceux-là qui pratiquent la paix planteront des graines de paix et moissonneront une récolte de bonté'» Jacques 3 :17-18 (NLT).

«Débarrassez-vous de toute amertume, animosité, colère, paroles dures et toute calomnie, et toute espèce de méchanceté.  Soyez plutôt bons les uns envers les autres, compatissants, vous pardonnant réciproquement, comme Dieu vous a pardonnés en Christ.»  Éphésiens 4 :31-32 (NLT).

5.  Créer la division n’apporte par la gloire à Dieu.

«Car la colère de l'homme n'accomplit pas la justice de Dieu.» Jacques 1 :20 (TEV).

«Qui es-tu, toi qui juges un serviteur d'autrui ? S'il se tient debout, ou s'il tombe, cela regarde son maître. Mais il se tient debout, car le Seigneur a le pouvoir de le raffermir.» Romains 14 :4 (NIV).

«Chacun de nous rendra compte à Dieu pour lui-même. Donc cessons de passer des jugements sur les uns les autres. Pensez plutôt à ne rien faire qui soit pour votre frère une pierre d'achoppement ou une occasion de chute.»  Romains 14 :12-13 (NIV).

6.  Ce qui apporte à Dieu le plus de gloire est l’amour et l’unité dans son corps.

La loi en entier est comprise dans un seul commandement 'Aime ton prochain comme toi-même'.

«Si vous continuez à vous mordre et à vous dévorer les uns les autres, prenez garde que vous ne soyez détruits les uns par les autres.»  Galates 5 :14-15 (NIV).

«Que le Dieu qui donne la persévérance et la consolation vous donne un esprit d’unité parmi vous alors que vous suivez le Christ Jésus, afin que d’un seul cœur et d’une seule bouche vous puissiez glorifier le Dieu et le Père de notre Seigneur Jésus Christ.» Romains 15 :5-6 (NIV).

«Je leur ai donné la gloire que tu m'as donnée, afin qu'ils soient un comme nous sommes un.»  Jean 17 :22 (NIV).

Rick Warren est le pasteur fondateur et senior du Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., une des congrégations les plus grande et la plus influente, avec plus de 22,000 en assistance chaque fin de semaine.
*Rapport Original Ici - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHphtpZRWPTCX8unKDvMgsTzh9o2tZoBSQNAmZetc…

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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 21:23 (2012)    Post subject: 3) QUI REÇOIT LA GLOIRE POUR AVOIR FAIT LE BIEN?.... Reply with quote

3) QUI RECOIT LA GLOIRE POUR AVOIR FAIT LE BIEN?  EST-CE QUE L'ÉGLISE EST SUPPOSÉE RECEVOIR UNE PART (‘P.E.A.C.E.’) DE CELA?

HERESCOPE – Par le Pasteur Larry DeBruyn – 3 juin  2008

Sur WorldNetDaily.com
(
http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpirPNv3ApniN1duqqSlOr9DlOGIidis4Jmd-2Y8qK_-cyw2vUx0_xmXEqiPBpjoBLiHFzsApdGzjtUT0u2eeEJhoczpIi77yYmxufplFzWt6g== ), une discorde a fait surface entre le chroniqueur Joseph Farah et Rick Warren [articles ci-dessus].  Avec des mots, le Pasteur Warren ne dénie pas, Farah le cite : 'Lors d’un mariage l’épouse est le caractère principal, le centre, le début du spectacle – tous les autres sont des membres supporteurs, mais la gloire va à l’épouse …  Le Plan de PEACE est construit sur le même principe.  L’Épouse de Christ – de laquelle l’église est son expression partout dans le monde – mérite d’être le centre d’intérêt, le crédit et la gloire pour avoir fidèlement servi leurs communautés année après année'.
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Disant que cela est sa politique générale de ne pas répondre à ses critiques – donnant ainsi l’impression qu’il s’efforce de vivre au dessus de celles-ci -  Warren a brisé sa politique et a répondu publiquement à Farah.  Dans l’article du WorldNetDaily d’hier (
http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHphtpZRWPTCX8unKDvMgsTzh9o2tZoBSQNAmZetc525uK6Fvv-tRUgt_uQeFkBznQ5y5Z3INB7CIh7s2iVpdO-HO0BwcRsbviMmNu5IUf-ufnUNxa53EO82qMjzTVuy19nwMNTacdmwwRKLrQy_kGyvJ ), il réprimande Farah 'Donne une chance à PEACE' (Give PEACE a chance).
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Dans six catégories, Warren cite une trentaine de preuves écrites qui prouvent supposément son affirmation, 'Dieu veut que Son corps et épouse reçoive la gloire'.

Donc nous demandons qui a raison – Warren ou Farah?  Est-ce Dieu, ou son église, qui doit recevoir la gloire?  La meilleure façon de répondre à la question est de regarder aux textes bibliques auxquels le Pasteur Warren fait appel pour supporter son affirmation.  À mesure que nous regardons aux textes individuels, je vous donnerai mon impression à savoir si oui ou non les versets supportent effectivement la déclaration de Warren : 'Dieu veut que Son corps et épouse reçoive la gloire'.  Nous allons maintenant à l’étude Biblique de Warren qu’il dit prouve son hypothèse.

Groupe de Textes 1

Tous les quatre versets (Warren cite le même verset, Éphésiens 3 :21, de trois traductions différentes – NIV, GW, NLT), affirme que la gloire appartient à Dieu.  Je cite les quatre textes puis donnerai mon commentaire :

*  Éphésiens 3 :21 (NIV) « lui [i.e., à Dieu, étant l’antécédent le plus près dans le verset 19] soit la gloire dans l’église - la gloire est à Dieu» ;

*  Éphésiens 5 :27 (NCV) «Christ est mort afin de se donner l’église telle une épouse dans toute sa glorieuse beauté» – en contradiction à la citation de Warren, la Version New Century de ce verset ne contient pas le mot 'glorieuse';

*  Hébreux 2 :10 (NCV) «Dieu est Celui qui a fait toutes choses, et toutes choses sont pour sa gloire. Il voulait avoir beaucoup d’enfants pour partager sa gloire. . .»  -  Dieu a créé toutes choses pour Sa gloire.  Encore une fois, Warren a mal cité la traduction NCV car il remplace le mot ‘fils’ (NCV) par ‘enfants’;

* 1 Corinthiens 15:31 (NIV) «Chaque jour je meurs, je veux dire que, frères – aussi sûrement que je me glorifie de vous en Jésus Christ notre» – le mot Grecque kauchesis (non pas doxa) est mieux traduit dans ‘s’enorgueillir» (NASB).

En conclusion à ce groupe de texte, Warren demande à Farah, «Tu es certainement d’accord avec ces versets, n’est-ce pas, Joseph?» Il y a pourtant un problème fatal dans le défi de Warren :  Aucun de ces textes, dont deux qui sont mal cités, ne supporte ‘clairement’ son affirmation que, ‘Dieu veut que Son corps et épouse reçoive la gloire.’  La gloire appartient à Dieu et à Dieu seul.

Groupe de Textes 2

Dans ce groupe, Warren cite trois textes de base pour supporter sa prétention que ‘Jésus a déclaré clairement qu’Il reçoit la gloire par Son église’.  Mais dans cette déclaration, Warren nie ce qu’il a affirmé dans la déclaration précédente; nommément, que Jésus, non pas l’église, est ‘clairement’ le récipiendaire de la gloire!  Néanmoins, regardons à ces versets :

* Jean17:10 (NLT) «Et eux tous, et depuis qu’ils sont miens ils vous appartiennent; et vous me les avez redonnés, donc ils sont ma gloire!» – Jésus a dit de Ses disciples, ‘ils sont ma gloire’ («la gloire est venu à moi par eux», NIV, toutes les emphases sont de moi.);

* 2 Corinthiens 3:18 (NIV) «Et nous, qui à visages découverts reflétons tous la gloire du Seigneur, sommes transformés à sa ressemblance avec une gloire toujours grandissante, qui vient du Seigneur, qui est l’Esprit»  - encore une fois, la gloire appartient au Seigneur;

* 1 Thessaloniciens 2:20 (NIV) «Paul se glorifiait dans l’église et leur a dit : Oui, vous êtes notre gloire et notre joie.» -  Je note que le commentaire de Warren «Paul se glorifiait dans l’église et leur a dit. . .»  est inclus entre les guillemets donnant ainsi l’impression que la déclaration vient de la Bible.  Elle ne l’est pas.  Si gloire-meilleur-crédit-  est attribuée dans ce verset, elle appartient à Paul, non pas à l’église.  Ainsi donc le NLT traduit, Car vous êtes notre «fierté et notre joie.»

Encore une fois, les citations scrïpturaires de Warren ne prouvent pas son affirmation principale que «Dieu veut que Son corps et épouse reçoive la gloire.»


Groupe de Textes 3

Le Pasteur Rick Warren cites treize versets pour supporter une sous-thèse que, ‘Christ veut que son église partage sa gloire!’  Notez la conjugaison de Christ veut: L’église sera glorifiée lorsque Jésus reviendra pour Son Épouse.  Comme tel, la gloire de l’église est dans le futur, non pas au présent.  Le corps de Christ sera glorifié dans les cieux pour l’éternité. Notez également que la gloire est partagée par des personnes individuelles, et non pas par une Chrétienté corporative.  Observez les conjugaisons des mots en parenthèse dans les versets suivants que cite Warren :

* 1 Pierre 5:1 (NLT)
«Et moi [Pierre],  aussi, je partagerai sa gloire et son honneur lorsqu’il reviendra»;

«Christ est notre vie, et lorsqu’il reviendra, vous partagerez sa gloire'.  Colossiens 3 :4 (NCV).»;

Romains 5:2 (NLT) «… et nous regardons avec confiance et joie vers le partage de la gloire de Dieu»;

Romains 8:17 (NIV) «… si toutefois nous souffrons avec lui, afin que nous puissions [espérer, ou 'aurons la gloire', NCV]  aussi participer à sa gloire.»

Romains 8:18 (NLT) «… à la gloire qu’il nous donnera plus tard»;

Romains 8:19 (NCV) «Tout ce que Dieu a créé attend avec excitation que Dieu démontre complètement la gloire ses enfants»;

Romains 8:21 (NCV) «--- que tout ce que Dieu a créé soit libéré [futur] de la ruine pour avoir la liberté et la gloire qui appartiennent aux enfants de Dieu» ;

Romains 8:30 (TEV) «… et ceux qu’il a appelés, il les a rendu justes devant lui, et il a partagé sa gloire avec eux» – le contexte nous amène dans une éternité passée (prédestinée) vers une éternité future (glorifiée).  De plus, la glorification mentionnée est individuelle, non corporative (i.e., ‘église);

Romains 9:23 (NIV) «…  Et s’il a fait ceci pour faire connaître les richesses de sa gloire aux sujets de sa miséricorde, lesquels il a préparés d’avance pour la gloire» ---' – encore une fois la préparation est individuelle, les uns pour la ‘colère’ et les autres pour la gloire.  En assumant que la colère future et complète de Dieu sur les non-croyants est dans le futur, alors de même sera la gloire complète des croyants;

Colossiens 1:27 (NLT) «...  Car ceci est le secret : Christ vit en vous, et ceci est votre assurance que vous partagerez dans sa gloire»;

Colossiens 3:4 (NCV) «Christ est votre vie, et lorsqu’il reviendra, vous partagerez sa gloire.»;

2 Thessaloniciens 2:14 (NIV) «Il vous a appelé à ceci par notre évangile, afin que vous puissiez partager la gloire de notre Seigneur Jésus Christ»;

1 Pierre 5:4 (NLT) «Et lorsque le souverain pasteur paraîtra, vous obtiendrez la couronne incorruptible de la gloire»;

Groupe de textes 4

Les quatre textes cités font référence à la vie dans l’amour d’une église locale.  De plus, ils ne supportent pas la thèse de Warren que ‘Dieu veut que Son corps et épouse reçoive la gloire’.  Encore une fois, regardons aux textes :

Romains 15:7 (NCV) «Christ vous a acceptés, alors vous devriez vous accepter les uns les autres, ce qui apportera la gloire à Dieu». – Dieu, non pas l’église, est l’objet de la gloire;

Ephésiens 4:29 (NIV) «Qu'il ne sorte de votre bouche aucune parole mauvaise, mais seulement ce qui est utile pour édifier les autres selon leurs besoins, afin que cela puisse bénéficier à ceux qui écoutent» – le mot ‘gloire’ n’apparaît pas dans le texte;

James 3:17-18 (NLT) «Mais la vraie sagesse qui vient des cieux est premièrement pure.  Elle est également pacifique, délicate en tout temps, et volontaire à se plier aux autres.  Elle est pleine de miséricorde et de bonnes intentions.  Elle ne démontre aucune partialité et est toujours sincère. Et ceux-là qui pratiquent la paix planteront des graines de paix et moissonneront une récolte de bonté» – encore une fois, le mot ‘gloire’ n’est pas mentionné;

Ephésiens 4:31-32 (NLT) «Débarrassez-vous de toute amertume, animosité, colère, paroles dures et toute calomnie, et toute espèce de méchanceté.  Soyez plutôt bons les uns envers les autres, compatissants, vous pardonnant réciproquement, comme Dieu vous a pardonnés en Christ».  – encore une fois, le mot ‘gloire’ n’est pas mentionné;

Alors que les textes que cite Warren parlent de la question des Chrétiens pratiquant l’amour dans l’église locale, ils ne disent rien à propos de Dieu voulant que l’église soit glorifiée maintenant.



Groupe de Textes 5

Encore une fois, tous les trois textes – Jacques 1 :20 (TEV), Romains 14 :4 (NIV) et Romains 14 :12-13 (NIV) parlent du but et du jugement de Dieu, mais n’ont rien à dire à propos de la gloire de l’église.

Groupe de Textes 6

Galates 5:14-15 (NIV) «Si vous continuez à vous mordre et vous dévorer les uns les autres, prenez garde que vous ne soyez détruits les uns par les autres» – Le mot ‘gloire’ n’est pas mentionné;

Romains 15 :5-6 (NIV)  «Que le Dieu qui donne la persévérance et la consolation vous donne un esprit d’unité parmi vous alors que vous suivez le Christ Jésus, afin que d’un seul cœur et d’une seule bouche vous puissiez glorifier le Dieu et le Père de notre Seigneur Jésus Christ» – Dieu, non pas l’église, est l’objet de la gloire;

Jean 17 :22 (NIV)  «Je leur ai donné la gloire que tu m'as donnée, afin qu'ils soient un comme nous sommes un. . .» – la ‘gloire’ donnée par le Père au Fils est la gloire future de Sa résurrection et de Son ascension, gloire à laquelle les croyants individuels partagent.  Malgré qu’elle soit donnée aux disciples du Fils, la gloire ne sera pas possédée, en ce qui concerne le plan de Dieu, jusqu’à ce que Jésus revienne pour amener Son épouse dans les cieux.  À ce moment là, et trop tard pour les non-croyants observateurs pour exercer la foi en Jésus qui sauve, le monde verra l’union vitale qui existait entre le Père et le Fils, laquelle union a été alors étendue au peuple de Dieu telle qu’en fait foi la résurrection de Jésus et de Son ascension. [4]

Conclusion

Il serait bon pour chacun de nous de nous rappeler que la mort spirituelle peut faire de bonnes oeuvres.  Pour l’église de Sardes le Christ vivant a dit, «Je connais tes oeuvres. Je sais que tu passes pour être vivant, et tu es mort. Sois vigilant, et affermis le reste qui est près de mourir ; car je n'ai pas trouvé tes oeuvres parfaites devant mon Dieu.» (Apocalypse 3 :1b-2, KJV)

Néanmoins, les bonnes oeuvres faites par les enfants de Dieu jouent un rôle nécessaire dans nos vies Chrétiennes (Jacques 2 :18; Éphésiens 2 :10).  Mais lorsqu’elles sont faites par de vrais croyants selon un plan particulier, de telles œuvres glorifient le Père.  Comme Jésus l’a dit, «Que votre lumière luise ainsi devant les hommes, afin qu'ils voient vos bonnes oeuvres, et qu'ils glorifient votre Père qui est dans les cieux» (Matthieu 5 :16, NASB).  En faisant de bonnes œuvres, la gloire appartient à Dieu car c’est à propos de Lui, non pas de nous!

Mais, au beau milieu de la masse de citations bibliques du Pasteur Warren, pas un seul texte ne prouve son affirmation que, ‘Dieu veut que Son corps et épouse reçoive la gloire’.  Au contraire, le Seigneur a parlé à Ésaïe, «Je suis l'Éternel, c'est là mon nom ; Et je ne donnerai pas ma gloire à aucun autre, Ni mon honneur aux idoles. . .» (Ésaïe 42 :8, NASB; Voir 48 :11).

Soli Deo Gloria!

«À Dieu, seul sage, soit la gloire aux siècles des siècles, par Jésus Christ ! Amen !» (Romains 16:27, NIV)

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Le Pasteur Larry Debruyn est l’auteur de ‘Church on the Rise’: Pourquoi je ne Suis Pas un Pasteur 'Poussé par un But' (Purpose-Driven).

Liens et Notes de bas de page :

* Herescope Permalink - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpi4fhDRbCrHj2tdp3DWlVbY9aBHnvNi11uLEpRr…

* [1] Joseph Farah, 'Give Glory to God!' WorldNetDaily.com, 30 mai 2008 - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHphiY-2lZ_gVLCikXGbo8uWswy1LLTxqh1niWKtE…

* [2] Ibid - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHphiY-2lZ_gVLCikXGbo8uWswy1LLTxqh1niWKtE…

* [3] Rick Warren, 'Give PEACE a chance,' WorldNetDaily.com, 2 juin 2008 - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHphtpZRWPTCX8unKDvMgsTzh9o2tZoBSQNAmZetc…

* [4] Mes pensées sur ce passage ont été adaptées de William MacDonald, The Believer's Bible Commentary, Art Farstad, Éditeur (Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1995) in loc. cit. - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpiwn6wSO78ZeyL3TWu_yp-hp3OGjwkc8zJTk8Sr…

* Article 1 relaté de Herescope - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpjDGlaQ6UCQhZA_zaXAXJN0n_S5wC07GRDrGxqs…

* Article 2 relaté de Herescope - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpi2VCrjb3DrXCllJ4jj-86jveVi8J2mUE-mVYof…

* Article 3 relaté de Herescope - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHphVFRTfo30DBrIdE8XFTOumyOGyst2O7BRSL-Sj…

* Article 4 relaté de Herescope - http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpjeA19HyCZGst713u9ha4UTtfiqpLAPMPcHSi8S…

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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 21:25 (2012)    Post subject: ) DES PÈRE "GAIS" ONT CÉLÉBRÉ LA FÊTE DES PÈRES AVEC RICK WARREN.... Reply with quote

4) DES PÈRES ‘GAIS’ ONT CÉLÉBRÉ LA FÊTE DES PÈRES AVEC RICK WARREN, AUTEUR DU 'THE PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE' (UNE VIE, UNE PASSION, UNE VÉRITÉ)

1 Corinthiens 5:11-13
«Maintenant, ce que je vous ai écrit, c'est de ne pas avoir des relations avec quelqu'un qui, se nommant frère, est impudique, ou cupide, ou idolâtre, ou outrageux, ou ivrogne, ou ravisseur, de ne pas même manger avec un tel homme.  Qu'ai-je, en effet, à juger ceux du dehors ? N'est-ce pas ceux du dedans que vous avez à juger ?  Pour ceux du dehors, Dieu les juge. OTEZ LE MÉCHANT DU MILIEU DE VOUS.»

PROUD PARENTING (Parents Fiers) – Affiché par Jeff – 5 juin 2008

Note de l’éd. : Proud Parenting est site Internet du groupe communautaire de parents LGBT (Lesbienne, Gay, Bisexuel, Transsexuel-Transgendre), faisant la promotion des intérêts s’y reliants.

En plus voici cette note du Christian Research Net :
'ProudParenting.com est un site plaidant la cause pro- homosexuelle et on y réfère comme étant la source de ce site.  Ce site n’est en aucune manière un endossement de l’homosexualité.  Pour vos amis et votre famille qui connaissent des individus pris dans des styles de vie alternatif, encouragez-les à visiter Stephen Bennett Ministries ( http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001EDxLk-StHpglRlr6t-jCHsfdgnW7exump4pByxRmwPuF6TcL… ).  Stephen Bennett est une preuve vivante de la délivrance de l’esclavage de l’homosexualité par la grâce salvatrice de Dieu'.

En cette Fête des Pères, un groupe du LGBT et des familles hétérosexuelles vont passer cette fête d’une manière qui est extraordinaire et profondément inhabituelle : ils vont assister aux services à Saddleback Church, la méga-église fondée par Rick Warren, fondateur du Purpose Driven Life.

La visite est la conclusion d’un voyage de six semaines, un voyage routier amical en famille composé de gais, afin d’initier un dialogue avec les congrégations de méga-église à travers la nation.  En décembre 2007, les organisateurs de ce projet – qui est appelé  'The American Family Outing' (L’Excursion Américaine en Famille) – ont invité les leaders de six méga-églises importantes à ‘matcher’ des familles de leurs congrégations avec des familles LGBT pour un repas et pour la conversation.  Alors, le Jour de la Fête des Mère 2008, l’excursion a commencé avec la visite à l’assemblée ‘Joel Osteen’s Lakewood Church’ à Houston, Texas.

Le 16 juin 2008, 'The American Family Outing' aura rencontré avec succès toutes les six églises.  Les rencontres ont varié en grandeur et en profondeur; Lakewood Church a souhaité la bienvenue aux familles pour l’adoration mais rencontreraient en privé seulement un des dirigeants du clergé de Family Outing’s, le Pasteur Jay Bakker.  En contraste, l’Évêque Eddie Long du New Birth Missionary Baptist Church en Georgie a rencontré personnellement les familles LGBT d’Atlanta et de partout dans le pays.  Jeff Lutes, Directeur Exécutif de Soulforce et un des organisateurs du American Family Outing, dit que 'Les rencontres ont été une occasion pour clarifier les mauvaises perceptions des deux côtés et pour commencer à mettre l’emphase sur ce que nous avons en commun’.

Lutes et son partenaire, Gary Stein, avec leurs trois enfants, participeront à la visite à l’assemblée de ‘Saddleback Church’.  Des membres des familles Lutes-Stein ont également visité l’assemblée du Lakewood Church et du Potter’s House à Dallas.  Ils vont également joindre ensemble les familles qui visiteront l’assemblée de Willow Creek Community Church en Illinois le 8 juin.

Lutes dit : «Ce n’est pas une vacance d’été ordinaire, mais cela a été une expérience fascinante.  En fin de compte, nous faisons cela pour faire un monde plus sécuritaire pour nos enfants, alors cela vaut entièrement le coup.»

Le leader du clergé, Jay Bakker, se joindra également aux familles pour la visite avec l’assemblée ‘Saddleback’.

The American Family Outing est une collaboration entre Soulforce, COLAGE, National Black Justice Coalition et le Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches.

Article adapté par ProudParenting.com du communiqué de presse original.
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PostPosted: Wed 7 Mar - 21:30 (2012)    Post subject: RICK WARREN GIVES THE GLORY TO THE BRIDE Reply with quote

June 9, 2008Be Alert!

RICK WARREN GIVES THE GLORY TO THE BRIDE

False Prophet Update: Beware of Todd Bentley, and now John Crowder and the entire demonic host of fallen angelic led seers

This is that. . .

Hosea 7:13-15
"Woe to them, for they have strayed from Me!
Destruction is theirs, for they have rebelled against Me!
I would redeem them, but they speak lies against Me.
And they do not cry to Me from their heart When they wail on their beds;
For the sake of grain and new wine they assemble themselves,
They turn away from Me.
Although I trained and strengthened their arms,
Yet they devise evil against Me."

2 Timothy 4:3-4
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths."

I often imagined how bad things would get as the day drew near but I have to admit that I am astounded at the depravity that is passing off as Christian ministry in the name of the LORD and in the our Savior The Lord Jesus Christ.

This alert covers a number of recent developments regarding Rick Warren and the new false prophet crowd.

The first two articles from WorldNet Daily, one written by Rick Warren himself is a debate on a statement Mr. Warren admittedly made that the Bride, that is the Bride of Christ (the church) should get the glory. Joseph Farah of WND disputes Warren's reasoning and is correct in his commentary.

The third article comes from our very discerning brothers and sisters in Christ at Herescope who do an excellent analysis of Rick Warren's usual mishandling of the scrïptures.

Article number four shows Mr. Warren breaking a direct commandment of the Word of God in 1 Corinthians 5 and in an act of official 'church' ministry eating with so-called Christians who are in immoral relationships and 'proud' of it.

Adding some additional commentary to the Todd Bentley alert is Mike Oppenheimer's 7 part series and I suggest everyone read it. I was amazed at the number, albeit small overall; of angry of concerned emails we received in naming Todd Bentley a false prophet. Again, it was the same 'don't touch God's anointed' or 'thou shalt not judge' but a complete lack of real knowledge, understanding and discerning.

The final articles are links to some disturbing videos of these new 'prophets' that hopefully will help to re-enforce the many warnings that are being given.

BE/ALERT!

Scott Brisk

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