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BARACK OBAMA ET LE VOTE RELIGIEUX

“I’M ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE
NOT JUST IN MY ABILITY TO BRING ABOUT REAL CHANGE IN WASHINGTON… I’M ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE IN YOURS. »
Barack Obama


BARACK OBAMA SE PRÉSENTE COMME UN CHRÉTIEN ÉVANGÉLIQUE, MAIS QU'EN EST-IL VRAIMENT? NOUS AVONS VU COMMENT AVEC LE SUPPORT DE RICK WARREN, BARACK OBAMA A FAIT LE TOUR DE PLUSIEURS GRANDES ÉGLISES AFIN D'APPORTER SON MESSAGE DE PAIX. NOUS REGARDERONS DE PLUS PRÈS POUR VOIR SI BARACK HUSSEIN MUHAMMED OBAMA EST VRAIMENT UN CHRÉTIEN NÉ, COMME IL LE PRÉTEND, OU NE SERAIT-IL PAS PLUTÔT UN ARDENT DÉFENSEUR DE LA CAUSE LUCIFÉRIENNE QU'EMBRASSE TOUS LES LEADERS ET LES GRANDS DE CE MONDE.

BARACK OBAMA EST-IL LE MESSIE TANT ATTENDU PAR LES MULTITUDES POUR SAUVER LE MONDE? À VOUS DE JUGEZ!!!





04.01.2008

Comme prévu d'après les derniers sondages, le nouveau Kennedy afro-américain Barack Obama (côté démocrate) et le nouveau «Carter républicain» Mike Huckabee ont raflé la mise lors du Caucus de l'Iowa.

La route est encore longue jusqu’à l’investiture finale, mais le fringant Obama, l’homme du renouveau, et le chevronné Huckabee, l’homme des «bonnes vieilles valeurs», ont marqué un point.

Mais qui sont ces hommes, et surtout, comment se situent-ils par rapport aux électorats religieux? Premier coup de projecteur aujourd’hui sur Barack Obama, qui sera suivi d’ici à début février d’un coup d’œil similaire sur Mike Huckabee.

Obama, un citadin 'branché' tourné vers la modernité des megachurches

Barack Obama, plus que la plupart des candidats à la présidentielle américaine 2008, a arpenté des estrades de megachurches au cours des années 2006-2007. En a-t-il récolté le fruit dans les primaires de l’Iowa? Probablement.

Les megachurches constituent en effet aujourd’hui une arène incontournable pour qui entend séduire l’électorat religieux, particulièrement côté démocrate, victime depuis dix ans d’un «God-gap» qui le handicape (déficit d’électeurs religieux de leur côté).

Des centaines de milliers de fidèles sont rassemblés dans les Églises géantes américaines, en plein essor actuellement, dans des conditions optimales d’écoute: à l’abri du stress professionnel, fidélisé par une qualité de communication parfois digne des meilleures émissions télévisées (écrans géants, acoustique parfaite, orateurs rompus à la scène etc.), le pratiquant chrétien venu à la megachurch est un fidèle réceptif, et les hommes (ou femmes) politiques l’ont parfaitement compris.


http://blogdesebastienfath.hautetfort.com/archive/2008/01/04/barak-obama-et…

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BARACK OBAMA

UN MUSULMAN OU UN FAUX CHRÉTIEN?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

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Posté le 09/11/2008 16:09:03 (10/11/2008 01:09:03)



WHY JESUS WOULD NOT VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA

Sunday, July 13, 2008
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Posted: July 19, 2006
1:00 am Eastern

By Jill Stanek
WorldNetDaily.com

In February 2004, U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls.

Michelle called partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure," and wouldn't supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against "cynical ploy[s]" to stop it?

But that's not why Obama's opponent Alan Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for him.

Obama recalled Keyes' statement in a recent USA Today opinion piece but omitted his reasoning.

I know his reasoning, because I was there.

As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.

Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.

BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery.

The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.

But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.

I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member.

Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.

(As chair of that same committee, Obama once abruptly ended a hearing early, right before Scott and Janet Willis, the parents of six children killed as a result of Illinois' drivers licenses for bribes scandal, were to testify in favor of Choose Life license plate legislation. I was there for that one, too. The Willises had traveled three hours. Reporters filled the room. Obama stalled. He later killed the bill when no one was around.)

So, the reason Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Barack Obama was because of Obama's fanatical support of abortion to the point of condoning infanticide.

I have framed on my wall a Chicago Sun-Times cartoon published during the campaign. Obama is holding a sign with "LIVE BIRTH ABORTION" on it. God is reaching down from heaven to a baby in front of Obama, and the baby is reaching up to God. Obama is yelling at God, "You keep out of this!"

In his USA Today opinion piece, Obama admitted being "nagged" by the Jesus-wouldn't-vote-for-him statement, but only because he wished he'd given a different comeback.

Obama insinuated opposition to abortion is based only on religion, lecturing pro-lifers like me to "explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all."

I don't recall mentioning religion when I testified against live-birth abortion. I only recall describing a live aborted baby I held in a hospital soiled utility room until he died, and a live aborted baby who was accidentally thrown into the trash.

Neither do I recall religion being brought into the partial-birth abortion ban debate. I recall comparisons made to U.S. laws ensuring animals being killed are treated humanely. I recall testimony that late-term babies feel excruciating pain while being aborted.

Obama stated pro-life proposals must be "amenable to reason."

OK, Sen. Obama, let's reason. Explain why you support abortion for whatever rationale, at whatever gestation, by whatever means. Explain why you support infanticide, if banning it might interfere with abortion.

Then, since you brought it up, explain how, despite all that, you think Jesus should vote for you, either now or in the hereafter, particularly given His statement, "It would be better to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around the neck than to face the punishment in store for harming one of these little ones."


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=37080

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Posté le 09/11/2008 16:09:51 (10/11/2008 01:09:51)

OBAMA CONTENDS BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST NOT NECESSARY FOR SALVATION

AP - 3/27/2008 8:00:00 AM

GREENSBORO, N.C. - Senator Barack Obama has told an audience that although he believes Christ died for his sins, those who reject that teaching can also be children of God.

During a campaign stop yesterday in Greensboro, North Carolina, Senator Obama told the audience that he believes he "can have everlasting life" because Jesus Christ died for his sins. But he then told a questioner that he believes Jews and Muslims who live moral lives are just as much "children of God" as he is. (listen to audio clip http://www.onenewsnow.com/uploadedFiles/Media/Audio/2008/03/27/Obama 2 Not … )

The Illinois Democrat added that his late mother didn't share his faith but was a kind and generous person, so he's "sure she's in heaven." (listen to audio clip http://www.onenewsnow.com/uploadedFiles/Media/Audio/2008/03/27/Obama 1 A Go… )


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=73553

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Posté le 09/11/2008 16:16:29 (10/11/2008 01:16:29)

BARACK OBAMA'S WIFE MICHELLE TO JOIN HILLARY CLINTON AT PRO-ABORTION DINNER



by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
August 1, 2008

Denver, CO (LifeNews.com) -- During the Democratic convention in Denver where pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama will be coronated as the party's nominee, a leading pro-abortion group will put on a big shindig. Emily's List will unite failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and Obama's wife Michelle.

That Barack Obama's wife would attend a gala for a pro-abortion group that supports partial-birth abortions and taxpayer-funded abortions is no surprise.

Michelle Obama came under fire in May for a letter she wrote defending partial-birth abortions. The 2004 letter, written to help Obama in his campaign for his U.S. Senate seat, opposes the ban on the abortion procedure.


The pairing of Clinton and Obama will be a means of raising funds for the presidential election -- giving the leading pro-abortion group cash to bash John McCain.

But the event will have an emotional impact as well, since Emily's List was squarely in Clinton's corner during the primary and fought with the Obama camp before the junior senator clinched the nomination.

The reception will take place on the Tuesday of the convention week -- August 26, the 88th anniversary of women's suffrage -- and will also feature pro-abortion House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

"Senator Clinton has long been a supporter of Emily's list and encouraging women to run for Congress," Emily's List spokeswoman Ramona Oliver said. "This is going to be a great year from women. We have a fantastic class of women running for Congress, Senate and the governor's office."

Political insiders have speculated about the role Clinton will play in the convention and Oliver confirmed that Clinton will be a spokeswoman for the pro-abortion side during the rest of the presidential campaign.

Emily's list has played a role in uniting the party, "talking about how (GOP presidential nominee John) McCain is obviously not the choice for women who care about things like pay equity and choice," Oliver said.

"This special event, held on the 88th anniversary of women’s suffrage, will celebrate Democratic women as we come together for victory at the Democratic National Convention," the group says.

The 2 p.m. event will take place at the Sheraton Denver Hotel and ticket prices range from $500 for red carpet seating to $50 for general admission.


http://www.lifenews.com/nat4092.html

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Posté le 09/11/2008 16:17:03 (10/11/2008 01:17:03)



BLACK EVANGELICALS DECRY OBAMA INVITE TO HOMOSEXUAL MINISTER

This sad story is more indication of the very destructive divisiveness of the Cult of Liberal Theology upon Biblical Christianity in this piece from One News Now:

Black ministry leaders are denouncing Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s (D-Illinois) effort to appease homosexual activists by adding a homosexual minister to his weekend gospel tour lineup.

Homosexual activists had criticized Obama’s “Embrace the Change” tour in South Carolina because the performers included gospel singer Donnie McClurkin, who preaches that God delivered him from homosexuality and can do the same for others. The Illinois senator, who said he “strongly disagrees” with McClurkin’s views, has now invited Andy Sidden, a South Carolina pastor who is openly homosexual, to appear at Sunday’s event in Columbia.

Here at Apprising Ministries I am not going to speak to the political issues involved, but rather, as a pastor-teacher in the Lord’s Church I am constrained by Christ to follow my Biblical mandate of 2 Timothy 4:2. That other more prominent preachers haven’t is irrelevant to me. Obama does make the claim to be a Christian, which then makes this “gospel tour” an issue within the visible church. So hear me well: Andy Sidden, as an “openly homosexual” man, is absolutely not a pastor in right standing before God.

No pastor can be acting “openly” in sinful behavior clearly condemned by Holy scrïpture without incurring the judgment of God. And anyone foolish enough to follow him and/or embrace Sidden as a pastor will also find themselves before the Lord as sharing in his sin. This is also where any Christians involved in this fiasco are right now. Until such time as Sidden would publicly repent of his grievous public sins he is an apostate and should be rejected by the genuine Body of Christ–period.


http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/10/black_evangelic.html

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BARACK OBAMA - CHANGE WE CAN'T BELIEVE IN

Responding to accusations that his campaign has been too quiet on homosexual issues, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) stated his views in detail in one of his most pointed interviews to date. Sitting down with reporters from the gay magazine The Advocate, Obama was frank about the major current issues. Here is the Democratic frontrunner in his own words:

"I have actually been much more vocal on gay issues to general audiences than any other presidential candidate probably in history... I reasonably can see 'don't ask, don't tell' eliminated. I think that I can help usher through an Employment Non-Discrimination Act and sign it into law... The third thing I believe I can get done is in dealing with federal employees, making sure that their benefits, that their ability to transfer health or pension benefits the same way that opposite-sex couples do, is something that I'm interested in making happen... And finally, an area that I'm very interested in is making sure that federal benefits are available to same-sex couples who have a civil union... I, for a very long time, have been interested in a repeal of DOMA [the Defense of Marriage Act]."

Additional Resources

DOMA Won't Do It: Why the Constitution Must Be Amended to Save Marriage http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=BC04D03

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL


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OBAMA SEES PRESIDENCY AS 'BULLY PULPIT' FOR FULL 'LGBT EQUALITY'

By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
February 29, 2008

(CNSNews.com) - In an open letter posted on his presidential campaign Web site Thursday, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) expounds on the "promise of equality for all -- a promise that extends to our gay brothers and sisters."

He said he'd use the "bully pulpit" of the presidency to press for a number of laws and policy changes backed by the homosexual community.

The Feb. 28 letter, posted in the "LGBT" section under the "People" heading, says it's "wrong to have millions of Americans living as second-class citizens in this nation." Obama asks for support "so that together we can bring about real change for all LGBT Americans."

As president, Obama said he would press for passage of a hate crimes law and a "fully inclusive" Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which would outlaw workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.

"As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws," Obama said. Although he favors civil unions over same-sex marriage, "I also believe that the federal government should not stand in the way of states that want to decide on their own how best to pursue equality for gay and lesbian couples..."

Obama said he supports repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) -- unlike Sen. Hillary Clinton, he pointed out. "While some say we should repeal only part of the law, I believe we should get rid of that statute altogether. Federal law should not discriminate in any way against gay and lesbian couples, which is precisely what DOMA does."

Obama said he also wants to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," the policy that's supposed to exclude homosexuals from military service.

To address the HIV/AIDS epidemic, Obama said "abstinence education should be part of any strategy," but he also backs "age-appropriate sex education that includes information about contraception." He wants local governments to distribute contraceptives to protect public health. He also wants to lift the federal ban on needle exchanges.

Obama said it's not enough to have the "right positions" on the issues. He said it's just as important to win broad support for those positions -- and that's why he'll continue bringing his message of LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) equality to "skeptical audiences as well as friendly ones.

"I will never compromise on my commitment to equal rights for all LGBT Americans. But neither will I close my ears to the voices of those who still need to be convinced. That is the work we must do to move forward together. It is difficult. It is challenging. And it is necessary," he said.

Obama promised that he will provide leadership that appeals "to the best parts of the human spirit," with the goal of full equality for LGBT people in the United States.


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200802/CUL2008…

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PRESUMED PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES MCCAIN AND OBAMA TO MAKE FIRST JOINT CAMPAIGN APPEARANCE ON AUGUST 16 AT SADDLEBACK CHURCH

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"They made Him jealous with strange gods; With abominations they provoked Him to anger." Deuteronomy 32:16

"For you have forgotten the God of your salvation And have not remembered the rock of your refuge. Therefore you plant delightful plants And set them with vine slips of a strange god." Isaiah 17:10

"At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold." Matthew 24:10-12

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Mon Jul 21, 5:00 AM ET

To: POLITICAL EDITORS

Contact: A. Larry Ross or Whitney Kelley, +1-972-267-1111, media@rickwarrennews.com, for Saddleback Church

LAKE FOREST, Calif., July 21 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama, respective presumed Republican and Democratic presidential nominees, will end the primary season by making their first joint appearance of the 2008 campaign at Saddleback Church on Saturday, Aug. 16 at the Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion. Dr. Rick Warren, founding pastor of the 22,000-member Orange County, Calif. mega church and moderator for the event, made the announcement today upon confirmation by both campaigns.

"We're honored that the candidates chose The Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion for their first joint appearance, an unprecedented opportunity for America to hear both men back-to-back on the same platform," Warren said. "This is a critical time for our nation and the American people deserve to hear both candidates speak from the heart -- without interruption -- in a civil and thoughtful format absent the partisan 'gotcha' questions that typically produce heat instead of light.

"The primaries proved that Americans care deeply about the faith, values, character and leadership convictions of candidates as much as they do about the issues. While I know both men as friends and they recognize I will be frank, but fair, they also know I will be raising questions in these four areas beyond what political reporters typically ask. This includes pressing issues that are bridging divides in our nation, such as poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate and human rights."

Warren confirmed that, at the candidates' request, this two-hour event from 5-7 p.m. (PDT) will be held in a non-debate format and open to all media. Both candidates also requested that questions be posed exclusively by Warren, instead of a panel or members of the audience. Each will converse separately with Warren for approximately one-hour, beginning with Sen. Obama as determined by a coin toss. This historic forum will be the only joint campaign event prior to each party's national convention.

"While debates typically focus primarily on the candidates' positions and only secondarily on how they'd lead and make decisions, this Saddleback Civil Forum will reverse that ratio," Warren continued. "Since the oath of the President is a commitment to protect the Constitution, it's critical to know how each candidate interprets the nature of its principles. Leadership involves far more than promoting programs and making speeches, and since no one can predict what crises will happen over the next four years, it is vital to know the decision capacity and process of each man."

Warren has known each candidate prior to their run for national office. Both men recorded video messages to attendees at Saddleback's annual Global Summit on AIDS and The Church last November. Along with other national and international leaders, each has also endorsed Warren's vision of the P.E.A.C.E. Plan, a 50-year strategy to mobilize millions of local churches around the world to address five global problems: spiritual emptiness, corrupt leadership, poverty, disease and illiteracy. After four years of testing prototypes of the P.E.A.C.E. Plan in 68 countries, the P.E.A.C.E. Coalition, involving business, church and government partnerships, was launched in April.

In conjunction with the Civil Forum event, Warren will convene an interfaith meeting at the church for approximately 30 Christian, Jewish and Muslim leaders to discuss cooperation in projects for the common good of all Americans. Members of the P.E.A.C.E. Coalition Leadership Council will also fly in for weekend events.

On Sunday, Aug. 17, Warren will deliver a special sermon entitled, "Making Up Your Mind: Questions to Consider before the Election," which will be streamed live on the church Web site, http://www.saddleback.com/, and made available for use in small group discussions within churches across the country.

The Saddleback Civil Forum was established to promote civil discourse and the common good of all. The first forum, held during Passover week this year, featured five Jewish World War II Holocaust survivors sharing their stories. The next Saddleback Civil Forum in September will feature former British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

"In addition to my primary calling to proclaim the Gospel Truth of salvation in Jesus Christ, these Civil Forums further three other life goals: helping individuals accept responsibility, helping the Church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," Warren added.

Saddleback Church has invited Faith in Public Life, which hosted a Compassion Forum at Messiah College in Pennsylvania last April, to co-sponsor this special Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion. Approximately 6,500 tickets to the event will be allotted for seating in six different venues throughout the 120-acre Saddleback campus.

FOR INFORMATION CONTACT:
A. Larry Ross (972) 267-1111
Whitney Kelley (972) 267-1111
media@rickwarrennews.com

SOURCE Saddleback Church

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CATHOLIC AND EVANGELICAL LEADERS RESPOND TO SADDLEBACK FORUM

Senators Barack Obama and John McCainWest Chester, Aug 17, 2008 / 12:28 pm (CNA).-

Saturday night, Senators Barack Obama and John McCain responded to questions from Dr. Rick Warren, author of “A Purpose Driven Life,” and pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. Following the two hour event, evangelical leaders from across the United States gathered to discuss their reactions to the presumptive presidential candidates’ responses.

During the forum, Dr. Warren first posted questions to Sen. Obama covering the topics such as his personal values, abortion, marriage, education, stem cell research, and his vision for the United States; before asking Sen. McCain the same set of questions.

Warren noted in a press release, “I don't happen to agree with everything either of the candidates teach or believe, but they both care deeply about America. They're both patriots and they have very different views on how our nation can be strengthened. We've got to learn to disagree without demonizing each other and we need to restore civility in our civil discourse and that's the goal of the Saddleback Civil Forum."

Following the event, a teleconference, sponsored by News Guests.com gathered evangelicals from around the country to discuss the presumptive candidates’ responses.

Abortion

The evangelical leaders began the discussion by focusing on what the presumptive presidential candidates plan to do in regards to the abortion issue.

Moderator of the teleconference, Martha Zoller emphasized that “Obama gave a very long answer to the question, and did so by ‘not saying anything. He’s also got the abortion numbers wrong within that, as well as using old numbers, you know, that Hillary Clinton had debunked a year ago’.”

Sen. Obama answered the question, "At what point is a baby entitled to human rights?" by responding, that determining when live begins is "above my pay grade.” He then stated, "I am pro-choice because, ultimately, I don't think women make these decisions casually. Rather, they wrestle with these things in profound ways."

Obama added that he is in favor of limits on late-term abortions.

Sen. McCain, on the other hand, quickly responded that life begins "At the moment of conception. I will be a pro-life president, and this presidency will have pro-life policies.

Janet Folger, president and founder of Faith2Action noted that “John McCain, without hesitation, bang, life begins at conception, he gets it. The judges that he would appoint, he made it very, very clear. I think he also resonated with beyond the base, to those who are pro-life even within the Democratic Party. I think it was exactly what needed to be done. He said it exactly the way it needed to be said.”

Did McCain ‘close the deal’ with evangelicals?

The leaders participating in the teleconference next discussed whether or not Sen. McCain, “closed the deal with evangelicals.”

Tom Minnery, Vice-President of Focus on the Family, noted that “Senator McCain helped himself. He just will not shake loose of his beliefs that he’s held for a long time on favoring research on embryonic stem cells. But [as soon as] – tonight, he hastened to the safer ground of the promise of adult stem cells as producing progress and disease research. So, he knows that he’s on thin ice with that. But, on the larger pro-life issue, he’s certainly presented himself quite properly as strongly pro-life. So, that was a good step for him.”

Bishop Harry Jackson, Sr., Pastor of Hope Christian Church in Washington, D.C. and author of “The Black Contract with America on Moral Values,” added, “I think that Senator McCain closed the deal. I think he made a clear contract between himself and Barack Obama. Many evangelicals will vote for him.”

However, Bishop Jackson noted that if McCain chooses a pro-choice vice president, evangelicals may support Obama. “I think the distinction that we heard tonight was clear, was decisive, was effective. That would be muddied if he mixes the ticket in some way and gets somebody who could become the President – in the event that something terrible would happen to McCain – who would go contrary to the clarity, the focus, and the energy with which McCain came forth tonight.”

Traditional marriage

The group next tackled Obama’s stance on marriage. During the Saddleback Forum, both candidates agreed that marriage is between a man and a woman, however, Obama clarified that he is still for civil unions for same sex couples.

Michael Foust with Bandiss Press asked, “[Obama] says he supports marriage between a man and a woman, but of course, he says he opposed the marriage amendment in California…do you see some conflict there?”

Minnery responded, that there is conflict in Obama’s position. “You cannot square the circle as he is trying to do. Either you support marriage or you do not. He says one thing. By his actions, he indicates another thing. And that answer…shows up the hypocrisy in his position on that issue.”

“I think it would be more refreshing for him if he would just be honest about it and say he favors gay marriage,” Minnery continued. “He cannot do that, because the American people do not favor gay marriage. And so, he needs to keep twisting and turning, diving on that issue. And it is hypocritical.”

Folger added that in McCain’s answer, “he said that he would not only support – he would support state’s definitions of marriage, the defense in his own State of Arizona, for example, where he has been stalwart leader for marriage as a union between one man and one woman. But he also made it very clear. Here’s the distinction. What John McCain said tonight is his position, that he says that the Supreme Court of California was wrong.”

Folger continued, “What Barack Obama left out tonight is that he actually publicly praised the Supreme Court of California. He said he “supported” the California decision. That’s something that redefined marriage, that undermines the institution that is the foundation of society. And Barack Obama is wrong on it, and that did not come out as clearly as it should have.”

Who won the debate?

Finally, the evangelical leaders discussed who they viewed as a winner.

The group unanimously supported Sen. McCain. Minnery noted that McCain’s “answers were sharp. I think he has thought a whole lot more about leadership. I was particularly impressed by his answer on people he admired. He went right to General Petraeus, who did one of the most remarkable military campaigns in recent memory. And I contrast that to Senator Obama, who when asked who influences him the most, he mentioned his wife, he mentioned his grandmother – those are safe nominations.”

Bishop Jackson also chose McCain as the clear winner, “He got energy, he got obviously many more applauses from the people in the room...But, I say this with a caveat. I think he won – if he can continue with the kind of fervor and integration of issues and faith, I think that he may be on to a new high in his campaign. If he retreats to a place of not wanting to talk anymore about these kinds of things, I think it will not help him. So, tremendous win tonight. I think it's a new chapter. I hope it continues.”

CNA also spoke with Austin Ruse, president of the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute. He explained that he was "amazed by the performance of both Obama and McCain. Obama was almost aloof, cerebral; certain to excite the hearts of liberals from Cambridge to Berkley. McCain was forceful, engaging, direct, everything we look for in a leader. Obama had a flip answer on the life issues saying it was “above his pay-grade” to know when children should have human rights. Obama made it clear that embryo destructive research is fine by him and McCain, who has not been good on this issue, has shown that he is coming our way."

"McCain also made it clear that as soon as a federal judge imposes homosexual marriage on the states, he would support a change in the Constitution. The difference between the candidates could not have been starker. McCain did himself a world of good at Saddleback."


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HERESY AMONG EVANGELICALS WHO HAVE ABANDONED CHRIST TO LEAD OTHERS ASTRAY

KOENIG'S INTERNATIONAL NEWS - By Bill Wilson, KIN Senior Analyst - June 27, 2008

WASH- Beware of those who claim they are Christians and believe there are other ways to eternal life. If one says he is a Christian and yet he also says that there are other ways to eternal life, he is not a Christian, even though he thinks he
is. Thanks to many preachers, presidents, presidential candidates and other public figures that say there are many ways to eternal life and also claim Christianity; the American public is seemingly confused and deceived. A Pew Research Poll of some
35,000 people indicated that 57 percent of American evangelicals believe many religions can lead to eternal life.

President George Bush, for example, won two elections with heavy favor from evangelical Christians. Bush, who claims to be a Christian, has said that Christians and Muslims worship the same god and that there are other ways to heaven.

Presidential candidate B. Hussein Obama raised a Muslim, now claims he is a Christian. Obama also believes in a universal approach to heaven. Recently, the India Times reported that Obama supporters were sending him a temple-sanctified gold-plated
two-foot tall Lord Hanuman monkey idol. His spokesman said she would present the idol to Obama, who, the paper says, "is reported to be a Lord Hanuman devotee and carries with him a locket of the monkey god along with other good luck charms."

The Democratic Party has revamped its approach toward Christianity after being defeated in two presidential elections by Christian evangelical votes. The Democrats have distorted the Bible in order to say that God's love and compassion toward society, poverty and the environment is cause to overlook sins like homosexuality and abortion.

The Republican Party has virtually run away from God's tenants. These watered-down versions of Christianity seem to be taking root in America as poll numbers show that Americans no longer see the Bible as the inerrant infallible Word of God, but
rather a book where scrïpture can be taken and used out of context depending on the situation.

Let there be no mistake, however. If one says he is a Christian, then he must believe in Christ and what He said and did. Jesus Christ said in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me." This verse alone means that there are no other ways to eternal life except through Christ. Those who believe otherwise are either very confused or are not Christians. And for Christians to follow those deceivers as if they are Christians, these Christians have been deceived. Jesus also said in Matthew 24:11, "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." His warning, "Take heed that no man deceive you." Your eternal life is at stake.


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OBAMA LEAVING HIS CHURCH

Posted May 31, 2008 6:02 PM

by John McCormick and Manya A. Brachear

Sen. Barack Obama is leaving Trinity United Church of Christ, his longtime religious home in Chicago and a place that has triggered repeated controversies during his presidential bid.

"This is not a decision that I come to lightly, and frankly it's one that I made with some sadness," Obama told reporters in Aberdeen, S.D. "Trinity was where I found Jesus Christ, where we were married, where our children were baptized. We have many friends among the 8,000 congregants."

Obama said he felt he had no choice but to leave the church.

"It's clear that now that I am a candidate for president, every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity, including guest pastors, the remarks will be imputed to me, even if they totally conflict with my long-held views, statements and principles," he said.

In a statement released this evening, the church said: "Trinity United Church of Christ was informed today that Senator Barack Obama and his family will no longer be members of our church. Though we are saddened by the news, we understand that it is a personal decision. We will continue to lift them in prayer and wish them the best as former members of our Trinity community."

The latest controversy involving the South Side church erupted this past week when an Internet video emerged from an appearance there last weekend by the Rev. Michael Pfleger.

Pfleger, who has had numerous run-ins with Chicago's Roman Catholic archdiocese for his political activism, mocked Sen. Hillary Clinton from the pulpit during a guest appearance at the church. The priest also suggested the former first lady is a white elitist who felt entitled to the Democratic nomination.

Obama has not attended the church since it first entered the national spotlight in mid-March, following the appearance of Internet videos featuring Obama's longtime pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

Dwight Hopkins, a theology professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School, who joined Trinity 12 years ago, expressed shock and regret about the senator's decision.

"I thought he would stay because of the good works of the church," Hopkins said, noting Obama's frequent affirmations about the Trinity community. "He had a baptism and marriage connection. I guess the Pfleger thing took it over the top. Maybe Sen. Obama thought the church should not have provided that platform."

Hopkins predicted the congregation would initially react to the news with confusion and anger. But he pointed out that Oprah Winfrey's departure did not have lasting impact on members and predicted that Obama's resignation would not either.

"They didn't come there because of Obama," Hopkins said. "They came there because of the House that Wright that built. And it's still standing."

Wright officially retires Sunday.

After initially responding with a speech on race, Obama in late April was forced to denounce remarks made by Wright after his longtime pastor made a fiery appearance at the National Press Club, where he reaffirmed his view that the U.S. government may have initiated the AIDS epidemic to wipe out minorities, and praised Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

In his only public appearance of the day Friday, Obama made no mention of Pfleger during a speech in Great Falls, Mont. As the story broke Thursday, his campaign issued a statement expressing disappointment in the priest's "divisive, backward-looking rhetoric."

The Illinois Democrat's roots at Trinity had helped transform him from a transplant into a member of the community, politically and personally.

Obama has carried that credential with him as he made his way up the political ranks. He would sometimes greet black churches by bringing greetings from his pastor, calling him by name.

But the relationship with Wright began to fall apart more than a year ago, as Obama was preparing to launch his White House campaign. Wright had been asked to give a public invocation, but then Obama asked him simply to pray with him privately beforehand.

It wasn't until news stations began to air snippets of some of his most controversial sermons in March that the relationship truly began to unravel. In one, Wright said the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks were the "chickens coming home to roost" on the U.S. for its foreign policy.

In another, he uttered the now-infamous words "God damn America." Obama publicly disagreed with the sentiments in a carefully crafted speech about race, in which he said he could no more disown Wright than one could disown a family member.


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ELECTION 2008 - IS OBAMA THE MESSIAH?

Websites capture wave of transcendent fervor

Posted: February 23, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

"Is this a messianic movement? A cult of personality? Or just good ol' fashioned politics?" Those are the questions an Internet blog called "Is Barack Obama the Messiah?" http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/ began with one year ago.

By simply highlighting media reports since then – including WND's account of an Obama rally in Seattle http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=55975– the website has captured the wave of euphoria that has followed the Democratic senator's remarkable rise to the brink of the party's presidential nomination.

The site, laced with photos and magazine covers illustrating the theme, is topped by a Obama quote strategically ripped from a Jan. 7 speech at Dartmouth College just before the New Hampshire Primary in which he told students, "… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote" for Obama.

The blog prominently displays the July 11 cover of the German magazine Der Spiegel, which has a photo of Obama under the title, "The Messiah Factor, Barack Obama and the Yearning for a New America."

Slate.com's Timothy Noah introduced last year his tongue-in-cheek "Obama Messiah Watch," a periodic feature "considering evidence that Obama is the Son of God."

"Is Barack Obama – junior U.S. senator from Illinois, best-selling author, Harvard Law Review editor, Men's Vogue cover model, and "exploratory" presidential candidate – the second coming of our Savior and our Redeemer, Prince of Peace and King of Kings, Jesus Christ?" Noah wrote. "His press coverage suggests we can't dismiss this possibility out of hand."

"I therefore inaugurate the Obama Messiah Watch, which will periodically highlight gratuitously adoring biographical details that appear in newspaper, television and magazine profiles of this other worldly presence in our midst," Noah proclaimed.

Noah added that readers are invited to submit similar details, such as "Obama walking on water, Obama sating the hunger of 5,000 with five loaves and two fishes – from other Obama profiles. And also, of course, to repent, just in case the hour approacheth nigh."

WND reported http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56559 how the numerous instances in which Obama has interrupted speeches to attend to a fainting follower has some questioning whether the campaign is employing shills or whether the phenomenon is evidence of fanaticism and cause for concern.

The "Is Barack Obama the Messiah?" blog features a "Transfiguration" image of the Illinois senator http://nymag.com/news/politics/30634/ – a photo by Michael Edwards that appeared in a New York magazine story published April 16, 2007

According to the magazine, the photo was taken at a fundraiser at the Manhattan home of Steven and Judy Gluckerstern. It shows Obama elevated from the crowd, standing on a staircase that ascends to a darkened window above his head.

George Soros is clearly seen sitting at the base of the staircase to Obama's immediate left.

The website cites numerous well-known figures under the heading of "Conversions," who represent Obama in larger-than-life terms.

New Age luminary Deepak Chopra said in a Jan. 5 op-ed piece on the Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/obama-and-the-call-i-am_b_80016… that "the X factor which sets Barack Obama aside as a unique candidate is his hard-won self-awareness."



"If we are lucky, we will wake up and begin the journey back to self-awareness as people," Chopra wrote. "That happens only rarely, and now it has happened to a junior senator from Illinois."

Chopra asserted that if Obama "makes it all the way to the White House, it will represent a quantum leap in American consciousness and a promise to restore America's position in the world."

MSNBC anchor Chris Matthews recently claimed http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/02/13/matthews-obama-speech… he felt a "thrill going up my leg" listening to an Obama speech.

Matthews bubbled on, claiming Obama "speaks about America in a way that has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with the feeling we have about our country. And that is an objective assessment."

Oprah Winfrey, after listening to speech Obama gave to a Des Moines audience Dec. 8, told reporters, "When you listen to Barack Obama, when you really hear him, you witness a very rare thing. You witness a politician who has an ear for eloquence and a tongue dipped in the unvarnished truth."

Conservative critics have pondered whether the messiah phenomenon will help or hurt Obama.

Writing in the American Thinker http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obama_as_liberal_messiah.html , consulting editor J.R. Dunn noted the tendency liberals have to see their leaders as transcendent beings, "someone more than human, someone with a touch of the divine."

Examining how liberals tend to put Franklin Roosevelt and John Kennedy on a God-like pedestal, Dunn commented that for the American left, "Leaders don't handle tasks, they lead movements, they embody the spirit of the age. They transform. Leaders, to put it simply, are fuehrers."

Internet blogger Jon Swift, writing critically about the "Obama Messiah" movement http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-obamas-achilles-heel.html , muses "there comes a time in the life of every adolescent girl, and even Chris Matthews, when they peel the yellowing photos of Scott Baio they cut out of Tiger Beat off their bedroom walls and toss them in the garbage bin."

"Barack Obama will be [47] in August," Swift noted. "Will Chris Mathews and Obama's other devoted disciples still have his picture on their bedroom walls then?"


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OBAMA THE MESSIA? - OBAMA, LE MESSIE?

DIFFÉRENTS POINTS DE VUES

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OBAMA WIFE ‘DARES’ NEOCON NAZIS TO KILL HER HUSBAND

"L'APPARITION DE CET IMPIE SE FERA, PAR LA PUISSANCE DE SATAN, AVEC TOUTES SORTES DE MIRACLES, DE SIGNES ET DE PRODIGES MENSONGERS..."

VOIR LES AUTRES ARTICLES SUR CE LIEN POUR ENCORE MIEUX COMPRENDRE CE QUI VIENT SUR LE MONDE SUITE À LA VICTOIRE DE BARACK OBAMA. VOUS COMPRENDREZ QUE LE DIEU DE LA MORT ACCOMPAGNE CET HOMME ET SA FEMME. VOUS COMPRENDREZ QUE DERRIÈRE UN VISAGE ANGÉLIQUE SE CACHE UN MONSTRE QUI DÉTRUIRA TOUT SUR SON PASSAGE. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1162.htm

November 5, 2008

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers (Traducción al Español abajo)

An historic new chapter has begun to be written in the annals of human history with the ascension to the United States Presidency of Barak Obama whose historic election victory is still resounding around the World.

And to this historic moment in time, the new American President’s wife, Michelle, presented herself to the World at the side of her husband as both the United States new First Lady and a ‘visual warning’ to her, and her husbands, enemies that she would not become the ‘black widow’ they fully expect her to be.





Though virtually unnoticed by the American people, and totally ignored by their propaganda media, Michelle Obama stood confidentially beside her husband on this historic night garbed in the ancient African Bantu ceremonial ‘Royal Robe’ meant to signify that that which they most feared would not hold power over them, and which in this case was her dress of black doused with the reverse triangles of red upon her breast and abdomen like the ‘black widow’ spider [2nd and 3rd photos on left] she has called to have power over.

The history of the ancient Bantu peoples of Africa has been nearly entirely erased from Western history other than the mention of their mass migration in 1,000BC (still considered one of the largest in human history) forced upon them by the new ‘gods’ of the Middle East seeking domination over our human race and fearing our peoples ever becoming united against them.

For these past 3,000 years, these ‘gods’ of the Middle East have waged perpetual genocidal warfare against the Bantu peoples to both enslave and kill them to keep from our World the knowledge of the truest origins of our human race preserved in their ancient myths and religious beliefs, and whose battles still rage today and shows the vast African Continent, and its peoples, embroiled in countless wars, famine and massive deaths by disease.

None of these diseases threatens the Bantu peoples of the World more than the incurable and deadly HIV/Aids virus known to have been engineered by the West to totally eradicate ‘once and for all’ the ‘threat’ to these ancient ‘gods’ posed by these ‘First Peoples of Earth’ and which now affects fully 70 percent of the African Continent peoples.

And to our human races most ancient ‘story’, as told by the Bantu peoples through their myths and religious practices, our Earth and its peoples lived in total harmony before the descent to our planet by the ancient ‘gods’ in the African Nation of Zimbabwe where the oldest structures ever built by human beings still survive to this day.

After the reengineering of our human race to a ‘form’ better suited to their uses, as the Bantu peoples refused to bow before them, these ancient ‘gods’ abandoned the Continent of the Bantu (Africa) and established in present day Iraq their ‘main base’ which today goes by the name of Garden of Eden and from which their religions of Christianity, Islam and Judaism all share their birth.

But, and unlike the beliefs of the Bantu peoples which stressed no difference between our Earth and its peoples, these ‘new’ religions were designed to keep our human race in perpetual warfare with each other, and which over these past 5,000 years have been astoundingly successful as billions of our race have died for the glory, and in devotion to, the new ‘gods’ of our planet.

It goes without my saying that these things I speak of are almost entirely unknown to the vast populations of our Earth’s peoples, but it should also be known that just because a thing may be unknown does not make it untrue. And if not untrue, just unknown, it then falls upon the hearer of these things to prove their truth with the evidence available to them.

And the first piece of evidence to be presented is the rise of Barack Obama to not just the Presidency of the United States, but also to his being the acknowledged ruler of our entire World, and as we had laid forth the facts of this being true in our November 4th report titled “Chaos And War Face United States As It Chooses New Leader”.

For anyone to believe that as our World enters what will prove to be its ‘Last Days of this Age’, and that it is just a ‘coincidence’ that the now defacto Leader of our entire Earth is of ancient Bantu blood, I would, respectfully, state to them that they have no idea of the true significance of the Kenyan-American ‘mystery man’ being hailed as a new ‘Messiah’ and looked upon as a modern day ‘Moses’ who now rules over them.

Likewise, for those foolishly believing that the ascent to World Power of Bantu people has once-and-for-all defeated the power of the ancient ‘gods’ I can state with one-hundred percent certainty that the blood that has been spilled over these past thousands of years for control of our Earth will pale in comparison to that which is soon to be spilled as the forces aligned for the final battles of our race are now in place and prepared to be unleashed upon one another.

We are one human race, we live on one World, there is only one fate which awaits us all when we die, there are no real ‘borders’ existing between our Earth’s peoples, there isn’t a ‘them versus us’, there is only us…this is what the ancient Bantu knew and now they hold the fate of our entire human race in their hands once again…let’s hope they do better in protecting us this time…Michelle Obama has made a good first start.

To be continued….

Note: Suggested first reading for further research on this subject matter: “Wars in Heaven, Wars on Earth”, “Dirty, Filthy, Christians”: Treatise On The Most Dangerous Death Cult In Human History”, “The Science of the Dogon: Decoding the African Mystery Tradition”, and “Les Peuples Bantu: Migrations, expansion et identite culturelle”


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OBAMA & THE OPRAH FACTOR

Can Oprah Winfrey, the most influential woman in America, make Barack Obama the next President of the United States?

Newsmax Magazine's special report "Obama & the Oprah Factor" examines how the billionaire talk-show host and her millions of deeply devoted fans could help put the Democratic Senator from Illinois in the White House. In fact, Oprah's backing has already made Obama a top contender in a short time.

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"Oprah-Obama '08" T-shirts - a sign of things to come?
The two sources of Oprah's amazing clout
The spiritual mentor who changed Obama's life
The simple request that could make Obama the best-funded candidate
How Oprah may have subtlety helped elect George Bush in 2000 with her famous kiss
Why celebrities are "the most widely available drug in America"
Obama's "perfect" liberal voting record
The political left's anti-Winfrey "NOprah" movement
Obama's Freudian slip about Oprah
Dick Morris reveals the voting bloc that will be key in '08
Obama's Illinois voting record on crime
Behind-the-scenes at Oprah's mighty media empire - TV, radio, Internet, publishing and more
How influential are African-American celebrities like Oprah, Tiger Woods, or Michael Jordan?
Oprah's "wastefully lavish" project in Africa
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DES ÉVANGÉLIQUES APPELLENT BUSH À SOUTENIR UN ÉTAT PALESTINIEN

Des chrétiens évangéliques américains, considérés généralement comme pro-israéliens, ont écrit au président George W. Bush pour l'appeler à soutenir la création d'un État palestinien, dans une lettre publiée dans le New York Times dimanche.

«Nous appelons votre administration à ne pas baisser les bras pendant la période restant à gouverner et à utiliser l'énorme influence de l'Amérique pour montrer un leadership américain créatif, cohérent et déterminé afin de créer un nouvel avenir pour les Israéliens et les Palestiniens», écrivent les 34 signataires de cette lettre.

Parmi les signataires, on compte des présidents d'université, des directeurs d'organisations caritatives et des pasteurs. Ils affirment représenter un grand nombre de chrétiens évangéliques américains.

«Nous écrivons aussi pour corriger une idée fausse chez certaines personnes, dont des responsables politiques américains, selon laquelle tous les chrétiens évangéliques américains sont opposés à une solution impliquant deux États et à la création d'un nouvel État palestinien incluant la plus grande partie de la Cisjordanie. Rien n'est aussi éloigné de la vérité», ajoutent-ils.

«L'honnêteté historique nous oblige à reconnaître que les Israéliens comme les Palestiniens ont des droits légitimes remontant à des millénaires sur les terres d'Israël/Palestine», disent-ils.


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OBAMA, FREEMASON, RELATED

To Both Bush, Cheney
By Leo Zagami
2-13-8

Obama outlines his ambitious geopolitical plans in a recent essay for Foreign Affairs magazine. Foreign Affairs is published by the Council on Foreign Relations, which describes itself as a non-partisan group of which he is a member. Established in the 1920's and headquartered in New York, its membership includes prominent politicians and business elite, including heads of academia and media. The organization seeks to centralize both political power and market power to craft legislation outside the checks and balances of democracy.

The CFR is rarely mentioned by the mainstream media... Obama is also a 32nd degree Prince Hall Freemason loyal to the Craft and devoted to his principles so forget about the "changes" and start thinking about the same old , same old , coming once again into power.

Obama is illuminati aristocracy. his appearence from 'nowhere', and subsequent rocket to the front of the political line are no coincidence. Believe it or not, Barack Obama is related to both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney as you can check here: http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172007/news/regional
news/dissing_cousins__obama__cheney.htm

So, the possible scenario is that Hillary might become the Vice President of Obama at the end of this political show , but in any case let's enjoy what the American call Democracy a good show in the hands of the usual suspects , and remember America the Pope is coming with His Blessings this spring..ha..ha....and make sure Brother Obama doesnt miss his Zionist masonic meetings as he would love to be the main actor in the reconstruction of the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem.

Maybe the next AntiChrist to hit the US presidential scene will be darker then some people have expected.


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BARACK OBAMA



BARAK HUSSEIN MUHAMMED OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE USA?

WEBSITE of home page for author of the following letter:

http://www.lorendavis.com/index.html

Celeste and Loren Davis are Missionaries in Africa and can shed some light on one of our Presidential candidates.

"Thanks for sending out an alert about Obama. We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election chaos here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence(over 350,000) and I don't know the last count of the dead. Obama under "friends of Obama" gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in East Germany . He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country! December 27th elections brought cries from ODM (Odinga Camp) of rigged election. Obama and Raila speak daily. As we watch Obama rise in the US we are sure that whatever happens, he will use the same tactic, cyring rigged election if he doesn't win and possibly cause a race war in America .

"What we would like you to know is what the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fullfilllment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true muslim way. We have been
working with them for 20 years this July! He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad. All our friends in Europe are very disturbed by the muslim infiltration into their countries. By the way, his true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama. Won't that sound sweet to our enemies as they swear him in on the Koran! God Bless you.

"Pray for us here in Kenya . We are still fighting for our nation to withstand the same kind of assult that every nation, including America , is fighting. Takeover from the outside to fit the new world order. As believers, this means we will be the first targets. Here in Kenya , not one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down, some with people in them, burned alive.
Jesus Christ is our peace but the new world order of Globalism has infiltrated the church and confused believers into thinking that they can compromise and survive. It won't be so. I will send you a newsletter we sent out in February documenting in a more cohesive manner what I've tried to say in a few paragraphs.
Love, Celeste"

Celeste and Loren Davis
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Luke 2:49b

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WAS BARACK OBAMA A MUSLIM?

DIFFÉRENTES INFORMATIONS ARRIVENT SUR LA FOI DE BARACK OBAMA. À NOUS DE CONTINUER À VÉRIFIER LES INFORMATIONS QUI ENTRENT, À LES ANALYSER ET À VOIR LES FRUITS DE L'ESPRIT. SACHANT QUE M. OBAMA FAIT PARTIE DU GOUVERNEMENT SECRET (CFR), CELA NOUS DONNE DÉJÀ UN APERCU DE QUI IL SERT. CET HOMME QUE PERSONNE NE CONNAISSAIT AVANT LE DÉBUT DE L'ANNONCE DES ÉLECTIONS PRÉSIDENTIELLES SE POSITIONNE EN TANT QUE CHRÉTIEN ÉVANGÉLIQUE. SUIVONS DONC LA SITUATION DE PRÈS.

The issue of Barack Obama's possible Muslim past has re-emerged with conflicting reports about the presidential candidate's childhood in Islamic Indonesia.

The controversy was initially touched off in early 2007 when several media outlets reported that Obama had attended a radical madrasa, or Islamic school, when he lived in Indonesia.

Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs quickly countered with a statement: "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."

The reports about the radical madrasa turned out to be false. But in March 2007, Gibbs amended his previous statement, telling the Los Angeles Times: "Obama has never been a practicing Muslim," the key word being "practicing."

Obama, his Kansas-born mother and Muslim stepfather moved to Jakarta, Indonesia's capital, in 1967, and Obama lived there from ages 6 to 10.

The Times sent a reporter to Jakarta to investigate Obama's childhood years there, and published an article on March 16 that included these details:

A close boyhood friend of Obama, Zulfin Adi, said Barack "was a Muslim. He went to the mosque."
Obama's first-grade teacher at a Catholic school, Israella Dharmawan, said: "Barry (Barack's nickname) was Muslim. He was registered as a Muslim because his father was Muslim."
In the third grade, Obama transferred to a public school, where he was also registered as a Muslim. At the school, Muslim students attended weekly religion lessons about Islam.
In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Koran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
More recently, Middle East Forum director Daniel Pipes wrote on FrontPageMag.com that his research led him to conclude that "Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian stepfather."

But on Jan. 2, the liberal organization Media Matters for America (MMfA) took issue with Pipes' report, criticized him for relying too heavily on the Times article, which it claimed was "disputed," in an effort to "revive Obama-Muslim falsehood."

Media Matters cited a March 25 article by Kim Baker in the Chicago Tribune that challenged several assertions in the Times story. Barker wrote that boyhood friend Adi "was not certain" about his statements regarding Obama's childhood and that he "only knew Obama for a few months."

The Media Matters Web posting stated: "Additionally, the Tribune reported that `interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia.'"

Media Matters also said that "Pipes did not note that Obama's Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, has been described in the Tribune as `much more of a free spirit than a devout Muslim.'"

Pipes fired back with a FrontPageMag.com article on Jan. 7, titled "Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam."

Pipes asked if any of the information from the Chicago Tribune article refutes "my analysis, as MMfA contends. It raises questions about two details in the Los Angeles Times account — the accuracy of the Catholic school's registration form and the reliability of Zulfin Adi as a source on Obama. But on the larger issue of Obama's religious practices during his Jakarta years, it confirms the Times account."

Pipes concludes: "Therefore, what MMfA calls the `Obama-Muslim' falsehood' is in fact confirmed by both articles as truthful and accurate."

And he adds: "All this matters, for if Obama once was a Muslim, he is now what Islamic law calls a murtadd (apostate), an ex-Muslim converted to another religion who must be executed. Were he elected president of the Untied States, this status, clearly, would have large potential implications for his relationship with the Muslim world."


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OBAMA THROUGH MUSLIM EYES

Aug. 25, 2008
Daniel Pipes , THE JERUSALEM POST

How do Muslims see Barack Obama? They have three choices: either as he presents himself, as one who has "never been a Muslim" and has "always been a Christian"; or as a fellow Muslim; or as an apostate from Islam.

Reports suggests that while Americans generally view the Democratic candidate having had no religion before converting at Rev. Jeremiah Wrights's hands at 27, Muslims the world over rarely see him as Christian but usually as either Muslim or ex-Muslim.

Lee Smith of the Hudson Institute explains why: "Barack Obama's father was Muslim and therefore, according to Islamic law, so is the candidate. In spite of the Koranic verses explaining that there is no compulsion in religion, a Muslim child takes the religion of his or her father... For Muslims around the world, non-American Muslims at any rate, they can only ever see Barack Hussein Obama as a Muslim."

In addition, his school record from Indonesia lists him as a Muslim. Thus, an Egyptian newspaper, Al-Masri al-Youm, refers to his "Muslim origins." Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi referred to Obama as "a Muslim" and a person with an "African and Islamic identity." One Al-Jazeera analysis calls him a "non-Christian man," a second refers to his "Muslim Kenyan" father, and a third, by Naseem Jamali, notes that "Obama may not want to be counted as a Muslim, but Muslims are eager to count him as one of their own."

A conversation in Beirut, quoted in the Christian Science Monitor, captures the puzzlement. "He has to be good for Arabs because he is a Muslim," observed a grocer. "He's not a Muslim, he's a Christian," replied a customer. Retorted the grocer: "He can't be a Christian. His middle name is Hussein." Arabic discussions of Obama sometimes mention his middle name as a code, with no further comment needed.

"The symbolism of a major American presidential candidate with the middle name of Hussein, who went to elementary school in Indonesia," reports Tamara Cofman Wittes of the Brookings Institution from a US-Muslim conference in Qatar, "that certainly speaks to Muslims abroad."

Thomas L. Friedman of The New York Times found that Egyptians "don't really understand Obama's family tree, but what they do know is that if America - despite being attacked by Muslim militants on 9/11 - were to elect as its president some guy with the middle name 'Hussein,' it would mark a sea change in America-Muslim world relations."

Some American Muslim leaders also perceive Obama as Muslim. The president of the Islamic Society of North America, Sayyid M. Syeed, told Muslims at a conference in Houston that whether Obama wins or loses, his candidacy will reinforce the idea that Muslim children can "become the presidents of this country." The Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan called Obama "the hope of the entire world" and compared him to his religion's founder, Fard Muhammad.

BUT THIS excitement also has a dark side - suspicions that Obama is a traitor to his birth religion, an apostate (murtadd) from Islam. Al-Qaida has prominently featured Obama's statement "I am not a Muslim" and one analyst, Shireen K. Burki of the University of Mary Washington, sees Obama as "bin Laden's dream candidate." Should he become US commander-in-chief, she believes, Al-Qaida would likely "exploit his background to argue that an apostate is leading the global war on terror... to galvanize sympathizers into action."

Mainstream Muslims tend to tiptoe around this topic. An Egyptian supporter of Obama, Yasser Khalil, reports that many Muslims react "with bewilderment and curiosity" when Obama is described as a Muslim apostate; Josie Delap and Robert Lane Greene of the Economist even claim that the Obama-as-apostate theme "has been notably absent" among Arabic-language columnists and editorialists.

That latter claim is inaccurate, for the topic is indeed discussed. At least one Arabic-language newspaper published Burki's article. Kuwait's Al-Watan referred to Obama as "a born Muslim, an apostate, a convert to Christianity." Writing in the Arab Times, Syrian liberal Nidal Na'isa repeatedly called Obama an "apostate Muslim."

In sum, Muslims puzzle over Obama's present religious status. They resist his self-identification as a Christian, while they assume a baby born to a Muslim father and named "Hussein" began life a Muslim.

The writer is director of the Middle East Forum and Taube distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution of Stanford University.


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OBAMA SLIPS ON TV: 'MY MUSLIM FAITH'

Presidential candidate drops line in interview discussing his belief

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Posted: September 07, 2008
3:42 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Slip of the tongue or momentary confusion? In a television interview today discussing his religion, Sen. Barack Obama stated, "My Muslim faith."

Obama, speaking to ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," was talking about what he described as "smears" that were claiming he was a Muslim when he maintains he is a practicing Christian.

"Let's not play games," Obama stated. "What I was suggesting – you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you're absolutely right that that has not come."

Stephanopoulos immediately interrupted Obama, stating, "Christian faith."

"My Christian faith," Obama quickly said. "Well, what I'm saying is that he (McCain) hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim. And I think that his campaign's upper echelons have not, either. What I think is fair to say is that, coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith – something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time."

VIDEO : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

The statements came amid an exchange in which Obama accused Republicans of spreading "lies" that he is a Muslim. McCain, though, has strongly condemned such accusations.

"These guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand," Obama said.

But Stephanopoulos corrected the Illinois senator, stating, "The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections."

Obama replied: "I don't think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let's say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks."

"But John McCain said that's wrong," Stephanopoulos shot back.

Obama's momentary slip was immediately picked up by scores of Internet blogs.

Obama 'quite religious in Islam'

Obama has long denied he was ever a Muslim. His campaign site states: "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."

But as WND reported, public records in Indonesia listed Obama as a Muslim during his early years, and a number of childhood friends claimed to the media Obama was once a mosque-attending Muslim.

Obama's campaign several times has wavered in response to reporters queries regarding the senator's childhood faith.

Commenting on a recent Los Angeles Times report quoting a childhood friend stating Obama prayed in a mosque – something the presidential candidate said he never did – Obama's campaign released a statement explaining the senator "has never been a practicing Muslim."

Widely distributed reports have noted that in January 1968, Obama was registered as a Muslim at Jakarta's Roman Catholic Franciscus Assisi Primary School under the name Barry Soetoro. He was listed as an Indonesian citizen whose stepfather, listed on school documents as "L Soetoro Ma," worked for the topography department of the Indonesian Army.

Catholic schools in Indonesia routinely accept non-Catholic students but exempt them from studying religion. Obama's school documents, though, wrongly list him as being Indonesian.

After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama was enrolled – also as a Muslim, according to documents – in the Besuki Primary School, a public school in Jakarta.

The Loatze blog, run by an American expatriate in Southeast Asia who visited the Besuki school, noted: "All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school, and a young 'Barry Soetoro,' being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school. He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam."

Indeed, in Obama's autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," he acknowledged studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."

"In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Quranic studies," wrote Obama.

The Indonesian media have been flooded with accounts of Obama's childhood Islamic studies, some describing him as a religious Muslim.

Speaking to the country's Kaltim Post, Tine Hahiyary, who was principal of Obama's school while he was enrolled there, said she recalls he studied the Quran in Arabic.

"At that time, I was not Barry's teacher, but he is still in my memory" claimed Tine, who is 80 years old.

The Kaltim Post said Obama's teacher, named Hendri, died.

"I remember that he studied 'mengaji (recitation of the Quran)," Tine said, according to an English translation by Loatze.

Mengaji, or the act of reading the Quran with its correct Arabic punctuation, is usually taught to more religious pupils and is not known as a secular study.

Also, Loatze documented the Indonesian daily Banjarmasin Post interviewed Rony Amir, an Obama classmate and Muslim, who described Obama as "previously quite religious in Islam."

"We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house. If he was wearing a sarong (waist fabric worn for religious or casual occasions) he looked funny," Amir said.

The Los Angeles Times, which sent a reporter to Jakarta, quoted Zulfin Adi, who identified himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends, stating the presidential candidate prayed in a mosque, something Obama's campaign claimed he never did.

"We prayed, but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played," said Adi.

Friday prayers

Aside from a new website to fight purported smears, Obama's official campaign site has a page titled "Obama has never been a Muslim, and is a committed Christian." The page states, "Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ."

But the campaign changed its tune when it issued a "practicing Muslim" clarification to the Los Angeles Times.

An article in March by the Chicago Tribune apparently disputes Adi's statements to the L.A. paper. The Tribune caught up with Obama's declared childhood friend, who now describes himself as only knowing Obama for a few months in 1970 when his family moved to the neighborhood. Adi said he was unsure about his recollections of Obama.

But the Tribune found Obama did attend mosque.

"Interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia," states the Tribune article.

It quotes the presidential candidate's former neighbors and third-grade teacher recalling Obama "occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers."

Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, notes the Tribune article – cited by liberal blogs as refuting claims Obama is Muslim – actually implies Obama was an irregularly practicing Muslim and twice confirms Obama attended mosque services.

In a free-ranging interview with the New York Times, Obama described the Muslim call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

The Times' Nicholos Kristof wrote Obama recited, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent," the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer.

The first few lines of the call to prayer state:

Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet ...

Some attention also has been paid to Obama's paternal side of the family, including his father and his brother, Roy.

Writing in a chapter of his book describing his 1992 wedding, the presidential candidate stated: "The person who made me proudest of all was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol."

Still, Obama says he was raised by his Christian mother and repeatedly has labeled as "smears" several reports attempting to paint him as a Muslim.

"Let's make clear what the facts are: I am a Christian. I have been sworn in with a Bible. I pledge allegiance [to the American flag] and lead the Pledge of Allegiance sometimes in the United States Senate when I'm presiding," he told the Times of London earlier this year.


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ÉLECTIONS AMERICAINES • TOUT LE MONDE AIME "HUSSEIN"

Depuis le début de la campagne, Barack Obama subit des diatribes en raison de son second prénom, d'origine arabe. Par solidarité, certains de ses supporters ont décidé de l'adopter, et le phénomène prend de l'ampleur.

Emily Nordling n'a jamais rencontré de musulman, du moins pas à sa connaissance. Mais, au printemps, cette étudiante de 19 ans de Fort Thomas, dans le Kentucky, s'est attribué un deuxième prénom sur le site de réseau social Facebook, à l'imitation de son petit ami et au grand dam de son père. Elle s'y fait désormais appeler "Emily Hussein Nordling". Par cette décision, elle est venue grossir le club toujours plus nombreux des partisans de Barack Obama qui adoptent le deuxième prénom du candidat par esprit de solidarité.

D'où une floraison de Hussein plus invraisemblables les uns que les autres : des Juifs, des catholiques, des Hispaniques, des Asiatiques ou des Italo-Américains. On trouve ainsi un Jaime Hussein Alvarez (de Washington) et un Kelly Hussein Crowley (de Columbus, dans l'Ohio). Jeff Strabone, de Brooklyn, signe maintenant ses reçus de cartes de crédit avec son nouveau deuxième prénom, tandis que Dan O'Maley, de Washington, a modifié son adresse e-mail afin que son nom y apparaisse sous la forme "D. Hussein O'Maley". Alex Enderle a fait le changement en ligne avec plusieurs autres partisans d'Obama de Columbus, si bien qu'aujourd'hui, quand ils le saluent, certains de ses amis l'appellent par son nouveau prénom.

Obama est chrétien, et non musulman. Hussein est un nom de famille qu'il a hérité de son père kényan, né musulman et mort athée, et que le candidat démocrate a à peine connu. Mais ce nom est devenu lourd à porter sur le plan politique. Certains des détracteurs d'Obama y reviennent sans cesse, tandis que d'autres, sur des blogs ou dans des courriels, affirment à tort qu'Obama est musulman, allant même parfois jusqu'à dire qu'il est terroriste.

"J'en ai assez que les républicains prononcent le second prénom d'Obama comme si c'était un mot injurieux", écrit Jeff Strabone dans un manifeste intitulé Nous sommes tous des Hussein, qu'il a publié sur son propre blog et sur le site . A l'image des habitants de Billings, dans le Montana, qui avaient réagi à une série d'agressions antisémites en arborant des ménoras [chandelier à sept branches] sur leurs fenêtres, les partisans d'Obama se servent du second prénom de leur champion comme d'un étendard.

Ce phénomène est cependant loin d'être un mouvement de masse et est essentiellement visible sur Internet. Légalement, changer de nom reste une démarche trop compliquée, expliquent les militants, qui se contentent de se rebaptiser "Hussein" sur Facebook, sur les blogs ou dans les commentaires qu'ils publient sur des sites Internet comme , et , le site officiel de campagne du candidat. Les nouveaux Hussein ont commencé à faire leur apparition à l'automne dernier et, depuis, le phénomène n'a cessé de prendre de l'ampleur. Dans plusieurs entretiens, des partisans d'Obama affirment avoir eu cette idée tout seuls, en dehors de toute influence de l'équipe de campagne et sans savoir que d'autres avaient eu la même inspiration qu'eux. "C'est le genre d'initiative qui prend tout de suite parce beaucoup de gens en ont l'idée en même temps", explique Stephanie Miller, une artiste marquée à gauche.

Pour sa part, Obama semble accueillir plutôt favorablement cette initiative. Il y a quelques semaines, à Chicago, le sénateur de l'Illinois a souri en voyant Richard Fizdale, l'un de ses plus anciens soutiens financiers, arborer le prénom "Hussein" sur sa veste. "L'idée, c'est que nous sommes tous des Hussein", a alors déclaré Obama à la foule pour expliquer le geste de Richard Fizdale.

Jodi Kantor
International Herald Tribune


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NON-ELECTIONS AMERICAINES : BARACK OBAMA, LE MUSULMAN, LE FAUX CHRETIEN ET L’AMI DES TERRORISTES DU HEZBOLLAH !!!

Chers amis,

Nous savions déjà que tous LES CANDIDATS PRINCIPAUX À CETTE NON-ÉLECTION AMÉRICAINE (Barack Obama, John Mc Cain, Hillary Clinton…) SONT SPONSORISÉS PAR LES HAUTES INSTANCES DU NOUVEL ORDRE MONDIAL (COMMISSION TRILATÉRALE, COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS).

Peu importe qui sera élu, les mêmes intérêts que ceux défendus précédemment continueront donc à prévaloir. Avec les mêmes conséquences funestes : suppression des libertés et augmentation de la tyrannie au sein du pays, et guerres impérialistes à l’extérieur du pays, le tout sous les prétextes de la lutte contre les « terroristes » et contre les suspects de « terrorisme »…

Si la loi martiale – déjà présente de façon théorique depuis le 1er octobre 2008 avec le retour de troupes militaires d’Iraq afin de surveiller et réprimer les éventuels mouvements civils dus à la crise économique - n’entre pas en application d’ici le 4 novembre 2008 (ce qui reste toujours possible), LE PROCHAIN PRÉSIDENT DES USA SERA DONC, À MOINS D’UNE RÉVOLUTION, UN DICTATEUR ( puisque John Mc Cain, l’ennemi électoral d’Obama, est lui aussi un psychopathe sanguinaire qui souhaite la poursuite des guerres et la continuité de la suppression des libertés aux USA) !

Nous savions aussi que Barack Obama, de façon incroyable et ILLEGALE, et en raison des soutiens du nouvel ordre mondial cités ci-dessus, est arrivé là où il est tout en étant INÉLIGIBLE, puisqu’il est né au Kenya, que son certificat de naissance hawaïen a été reconnu comme étant un faux et que son séjour en Indonésie et sous nationalité indonésienne l’a dépossédé de certains droits – notamment le fait de pouvoir se présenter aux élections présidentielles - être droits pour lesquels il a omis d’effectuer les démarches nécessaires afin de pouvoir en bénéficier à nouveau).

Nous avons vu que Barack Obama, malgré un procès à son encontre devant la justice américaine, procès intenté par un politicien et avocat nommé Berg, a bénéficié de la protection douteuse d’un juge fédéral, qui a balayé le procès. A ce sujet, sachez que Berg a fait appel devant la cour suprême des Etats-Unis.

Obama bénéficie aussi de l’adhésion des mass médias putassiers et du soutien de nombreux chefs d’état mondialistes (Sarkozy, entre autres). Il est le candidat le mieux placé pour remporter ces non-élections.

Nous avons également appris que Barack Obama, qui se prétend chrétien afin d’être mieux apprécié du peuple américain, a critiqué ouvertement la Bible (cf. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FCNKwHRCQM ) et a reçu en réalité une éducation MUSULMANE, notamment lors de son séjour en Indonésie où il suivait les cours de religion islamique.

MAIS IL Y A DES CHOSES ENCORE PLUS GRAVES : BARACK OBAMA, ETANT MUSULMAN, EST L’AMI D’ASSOCIATIONS MUSULMANES EXTREMISTES INSTALLEES AUX ETATS-UNIS, ET DONT CERTAINES SONT EN LIEN DIRECT AVEC LES TERRORISTES DU HEZBOLLAH ! C’EST AINSI QU’IL EST LIÉ AU « COUNCIL ON AMERICAN ISLAMIC RELATIONS » (CAIR) ET À « THE NATION OF ISLAM » !

EN DÉFINITIVE, BARACK OBAMA NE RÉPOND MÊME PAS AUX PLUS ÉLÉMENTAIRES « CRITÈRES DE SÉCURITÉ » EXIGÉS POUR L'ENGAGEMENT DES EMPLOYÉS DU GOUVERNEMENT FÉDÉRAL ! COMMENT POUVOIR NE SERAIT-CE QU’ENVISAGER QU’IL DEVIENNE PRÉSIDENT ?

Ceci n’est pas de la fantaisie, mais est une réalité qui est expliquée en détail dans l’article ci-dessous… Barack Obama, de par ses liens avec le Hezbollah, représente donc également un risque évident pour les Israéliens.

CLAIREMENT, CELA SIGNIFIE QUE LES USA, QUI JOUENT DEPUIS 7 ANS UNE SINISTRE MASCARADE VISANT À PRÉTENDRE QU’ILS SONT « CONTRE LE TERRORISME » (ALORS QUE LE GOUVERNEMENT ET LES AUTORITÉS AMÉRICAINES ONT EUX-MÊMES COMMANDITÉ LES ATTENTATS DU 11 SEPTEMBRE 2001 – TERRORISME D’ETAT, DONC), SONT EN TRAIN DE VOULOIR METTRE EN PLACE À LA TÊTE DE LEUR PAYS UN MUSULMAN EXTRÉMISTE QUI EST EN RELATION DIRECTE AVEC DES TERRORISTES PURS ET DURS !!!

CELA NE FAIT DONC AUCUN DOUTE : SI OBAMA DEVIENT PRÉSIDENT, LE TERRORISME D’ETAT SE POURSUIVRA AUX USA !

L’article-choc, ci-dessous…

BONNE REVOLUTION, OU BON ESCLAVAGE ! Vic.


Source : http://fr.danielpipes.org/article/5988

OBAMA NE REPONDRAIT PAS AUX CRITERES DE SECURITE

par Daniel Pipes
Philadelphia Bulletin
21 octobre 2008

ORIGINAL ENGLISH VERSION: Obama Would Fail Security Clearance
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5983

Colin Powell répétant désormais le mensonge selon lequel Barack Obama a toujours été un Chrétien, ce « en dépit des informations confirmant l'enfance musulmane d'Obama » (ainsi l'inscrïption à une école indonésienne le répertoriant comme musulman), on doit constater avec consternation que le candidat démocrate s'emploie à dissimuler la vérité sur cette question.

Portons notre attention, en ce contexte, sur un sujet connexe, les relations d'Obama tout au long de sa carrière avec l'islam extrémiste, et l'endettement moral impliqué. Sur un plan plus précis, Obama maintient des liens indirects, mais anciens et persistants, avec deux organisations, le Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), incriminé, sans mise en examen, par le gouvernement américain en 2007 comme complice de conspiration dans un procès concernant le financement du Hamas ; et The Nation of Islam, condamnée par l'Anti-Defamation League pour un passé marqué « de manière constante par le racisme et l'anti-sémitisme ».

Commençons par les liens d'Obama avec des islamistes :

• Les relations à Khalid al-Mansour. Selon l'ancien président du quartier de Manhattan Percy Sutton, Al-Mansour a collecté de l'argent pour financer les « dépenses d'Obama à la Harvard Law School ». Al-Mansour un noir américain (nom de naissance Don Warden) est devenu un conseiller du prince saoudien Al-Walid bin Talal, le principal donateur du CAIR. Al-Mansour a des positions islamistes classiques : il nie que le gouvernement soudanais entérine l'esclavage, il nie les liens des Juifs à Jérusalem. Il a écrit une brochure appelée « Américains, prenez garde. Le complot sioniste contre l'Arabie saoudite ». (Obama et al-Mansour réfutent les déclarations de Sutton).

• Les relations avec Kenny Gamble (connu aussi sous le nom de Luqman Abdul-Haqq) : Gamble, un producteur de musique pop autrefois connu, a coupé le ruban lors de l'inauguration d'un quartier général de campagne d'Obama situé dans un immeuble du sud de Philadelphie dont il est propriétaire. Gamble est un islamiste qui achète de nombreuses propriétés dans Philadelphie aux fins de créer une zone résidentielle réservée aux Musulmans. En tant qu'émir autoproclamé du United Muslim Movement, il a aussi des liens nombreux avec des organisations islamistes, dont le CAIR et la Muslim Alliance in North America. (Siraj Wahhaj, l'émir du MANA a été impliqué, sans mise en examen, pour complicité de conspiration dans l'attaque contre le World Trade Center en 1993).

• Les relations avec Mazen Asbahi. Le premier coordinateur de la campagne d'Obama en direction des Musulmans a démissionné après des révélations montrant qu'il avait fait partie du bureau d'une organisation financée par l'Arabie saoudite, le North American Islamic Trust, position qu'il partageait avec Jamal Said, incriminé lui aussi, sans mise en examen, comme complice de conspiration dans le procès concernant le financement du Hamas en 2007. Asbahi a des liens avec les bureaux du CAIR à Detroit et à Chicago, avec l'Islamic Society of North America, incriminée elle-même, sans mise en examen, pour le financement du Hamas et d'autres organisations islamistes.

• Les relations avec Minha Husaini. Le second coordinateur de la campagne d'Obama en direction des Musulmans a un passé islamiste et a travaillé comme stagiaire au Muslim Public Service Network. Immédiatement après sa nomination par Obama, elle a rencontré un groupe d'une trentaine de Musulmans incluant des gens aussi connus que Nihad Awad du CAIR, Mahdi Bray de la Muslim American Society, qui a soutenu publiquement des groupes terroristes tels le Hamas et le Hezbollah, et Johari Abdul Malik de la Dar Al-Hijrah Mosque de Falls Church en Virginie, qui a déclaré aux Musulmans Américains : « Vous pouvez faire sauter des ponts, mais vous ne pouvez pas tuer des gens innocents qui se rendent à leur travail ».

Passons aux liens d'Obama à The Nation of Islam :

Le donateur et l'allié de longue date d'Obama, Antoin « Tony » Rezko a été, trois décennies durant, le partenaire de Jabir Herbert Muhammad, fils d'Elijah Muhammad, dirigeant de The Nation of Islam, et dit qu'il a donné à Jabir et à sa famille des « millions de dollars au fil des ans ». Rezko a aussi été directeur exécutif de la Muhammad Ali Foundation, une organisation douteuse qui, sans l'autorisation d'Ali, a utilisé le nom de celui-ci qui, par ailleurs, a été récompensé par le CAIR.

Jeremiah Wright, le pasteur estimé d'Obama pendant vingt ans, a des liens passés avec The Nation of Islam, a accepté récemment la protection d'un détachement de sécurité de The Nation of Islam, et a parlé louangeusement de Louis Farrakhan comme de « l'un des géants de l'expérience religieuse des Afro-Américains ». L'église de Wright a célébré Farrakhan pour avoir été « la parfaite illustration de la grandeur ».

Farrakhan lui-même a annoncé son soutien à Obama, le qualifiant d' « espoir du monde entier », de « celui qui peut relever l'Amérique après sa chute », et même de « Messie ».

Le fait que la biographie d'Obama montre des liens si fréquents avec des organisations aussi peu recommandables que le CAIR et The Nation of Islam devrait donner à réfléchir. Combien de politiciens ont-ils eu des liens avec une organisation de ce genre, et combien en ont eu avec sept d'entre elles ? John McCain appelle charitablement Obama « une personne dont vous ne devez pas avoir peur si elle devenait Président des Etats-Unis ». mais les liens multiples d'Obama avec des organisations anti-Américaines et subversives, signifie qu'il ne répondrait pas aux critères de sécurité exigés pour l'engagement des employés du gouvernement fédéral.

L'agression islamique constitue l'ennemi stratégique de l'Amérique. Les nombreuses relations insalubres d'Obama suscitent des doutes graves concernant son aptitude à être Commandant en chef des Etats-Unis d'Amérique.


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Posté le 10/11/2008 07:45:35 (10/11/2008 16:45:35)

OBAMA'S HAMAS ADVISOR GETS THROWN UNDER THE BUS

Posted by Cheri Jacobus
May 10, 2008 at 11:33 am

Barack Obama just threw someone close to him under the bus of political expediency ---- AGAIN!

Obama advisor Robert Malley has been ejected from the Obama campaign for admitting to secretly meeting with the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas. A top Hamas official recently stated flat out that they are hoping Barack Obama wins the presidency. Follow me here -- Obama has promised a much more conciliatory relationship with Iran (some friendly sitdowns and chats with a few toothless sanctions thrown in for show). Iran's Ahmadinejad recently referred to Israel as a "Stinking Corpse" and said it was "On Its Way To Annihilation." AND -- Iran provides much of the funding and training for Hamas. Getting the picture??

Obama only reluctantly and belatedly cut ties with Malley when the issue of coziness with Hamas started to hurt his campaign and John McCain mentioned that Hamas expressly prefers Obama. Interestingly, Obama accused McCain of smear tactics simply for quoting Hamas, but then fired Malley the next day.

So the list grows of people from whom Obama has had to run screaming when the public finds out they are on his team and what they really stand for.

Samantha Powers -- Foreign policy advisory who, in addition to calling Senator Clinton a "monster" to a British newspaper, also said (with a wink and a nudge) that Obama really might not be able to pull the troops out of Iraq, even though it is one of the few actual issues he is running on.

Barack Obama's very own Grandma -- Yep, even Grandma got thrown under the bus as Obama needed to make an example of his white grandmother from Kansas as he attempted to "heal' the nation on racial issues when his longtime friend and pastor, Jeremiah Wright got caught on tape being a nasty racist.

Rev. Jeremiah Wright -- Minister who has been like "family" to Obama, and ran the church to which Obama belonged and sat in for twenty years and took his children to so they could hear Wright spew hatred of non-black Americans, America in general, Jews, Hillary Clinton, etc. Obama severed ties, again, reluctantly and belatedly when the public found out and it hurt his campaign.

Robert Malley -- the 'go between' for Obama and Hamas. When Hamas's support of Obama became a political problem for his campaign (but not before!), Obama fires his advisor for meeting with Hamas leaders.

Save for Grandma, in each case, Obama had to do it. But the big question is -- What was he doing with these dangerous loose cannons in the first place? And what does this say about his judgement? (Which, by the way, we are supposed to trust in place of experience, since he has so little.)

And, who's next? My advice to Michelle Obama is, if she can't watch her mouth, she'd better watch her back!


http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/?p=709

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Posté le 10/11/2008 07:46:17 (10/11/2008 16:46:17)

ELECTION 2008 - OBAMA CHURCH PUBLISHED HAMAS TERROR MANIFESTO

Compares charter calling for murder of Jews to Declaration of Independence

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Posted: March 20, 2008
12:45 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein
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Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America's Declaration of Independence.

The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.

Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

In his July 22, 2007, church newsletter, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the publication as a "deputy of the political bureau of Hamas." A photo image of the piece was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog, which first brought attention to it. The Hamas article was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.


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OBAMA'S MUSLIM CONNECTION

By Jon Christian Ryter
January 16, 2008
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In 1991 a young Muslim Harvard Law College graduate named Barack Hussein Obama (who has denied his Islamic past and Muslim roots for as long as he has been a public figure) became a civil rights community activist working out of the Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama worked as a community organizer for Trinity in poor black neighborhoods. Trinity's senior pastor Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, a black racist, who preached radical Afrocentric theology and didn't mind delivering profanity-spiked sermons found a congregation-builder in Obama. Because of what Wright called Obama's multiple-faith background and his Harvard education, he was a natural community-builder.

When Obama broke onto the national political scene in 2004, not only did he attempt to erase all traces his Islamic childhood, but he also tried to erase the nature of his relationship with Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr, the pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ. (When your country is at war with Islamic extremists being a Muslim is not the shortest route to the White House.)

Obama has told the media his reason for shielding his pastor was because "...he respected Mr. Wright's work for the poor and his fight against injustice." In reality Dr. Wright's work was to denounce the United States as a white racist nation. That's not good press for an African American candidate who needs to win a majority of the white vote to win the office of President.

It would have been not only natural, but expected, for Barack Obama—when he decided to run for the presidency—to make the announcement from the pulpit of the 8,500 member Trinity United Church of Christ. Obama would later state he did not in order to shield his pastor from the spotlight of the media. Dr. Wright has never shunned positive publicity. It was obvious to the media—in particular the New York Times which noted in an April 20, 2007 article that Obama was very deliberately distancing himself from Jeremiah Wright. Instead, Obama announced his candidacy on the steps of the old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois—where Abraham Lincoln announced his candidacy—on Feb. 10, 2007. Obama sees himself as an archtype of Lincoln who will "free his people from the tyranny of the oppressor." What people are those? The inner city people of color whom Dr. Wright believes are part of the Black Value System? Or does he see himself as the man who will free the Muslim world from the Great Satan since his first action, he says, as President of the United States will be to pull all Americans troops out of the Middle East? The voters need to figure out exactly who Barack Obama's constituents really are because when I add 2 + 2 + Obama, it doesn't come out four.

When Obama's early history and his Islamic upbringing was first reported, Obama's website posted a statement dated Nov. 12, 2007 with the headline: "Barack Obama is Not and Has Never Been a Muslim." The statement reiterated that Obama was not a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.

On Dec. 22 at the Smoky Row Coffee Shop in Oskaloosa, Iowa, the locals asked Obama about his Muslim roots. He said: "My father was from Kenya. A lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is, he wasn't very religious." That was a lie. Obama's father and stepfather were devout Islamics.

Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather, who had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical Wahabbi Muslim. "My mother was a Christian from Kansas." That was also a lie. Obama's mother, his material grandmother and grandfather were all atheists. "They married and then divorced.

I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam...For a while I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that's a Muslim country. And I went to school—but I didn't practice Islam." Another lie.

Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi extremist who lived in Indonesia. When Obama's mother moved to Indonesia—before she married her second Muslim husband—she enrolled her son in Francis Assisis Catholic School. He was enrolled as a Muslim because he was a Muslim. The enrollment form required each student to choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when enrolling: Buddhist, Catholic, Hindu, Muslim, or Protestant. Had he been a lifelong Christian, or even a recent convert, he—or his mother—would have circled Protestant.

When confronted with this information, Obama said he couldn't understand how such an error could have happened. Los Angeles Times reporter Paul Watson, who dug into Obama's allegation of error, said "...his former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama's grade school teacher as childhood friends, says Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended. The registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion classes. The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." (Something else Obama claims he never did.) "...Obama's younger sister, Maya Soetoro, said in a statement released by the campaign that the family attended the mosque only 'for big communal events' not every Friday." Obama, who belongs to a church that teaches that the Muslims of the world were wronged by both Israel and the United States, cannot afford to be labeled as a "Muslim" by voters who expect the United States to win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan where their sons and daughters are being killed by Muslims.

Jim Wallis, a Christian antipoverty community activist and a friend of Obama's said Obama comes from a very secular, skeptical family. His faith is a personal and adult choice. His material grandparents—who were professing atheists—had previously been Baptist and Methodist. His mother's tutelage leaned towards Islam only because her new husband was an ardent Muslim—and he demanded it.

She was not, however, the docile Muslim housewife most Muslim men expected. Obama's half-sister Maya admitted that her "...whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." Because religion of any type rubbed his mother the wrong way, when he was 10, Obama's mother sent her son back to Hawaii to live with her parents.

In 2005 Obama met his paternal step-grandmoher (whom he calls his grandmother). Sarah Hussein Obama, 85, who lives in Kenya.

She told the New York Times that she is "...a strong believer of Islamic faith," adding that she still rises at 5 a.m. to pray for an hour before tending to her crops and the three orphans she has taken in.

A camera which caught Obama on the political stage during a fund raiser for Sen. Tom Harkin in Iowa with presidential candidates Bill Richardson and Hillary Clinton shows his lack of respect to this nation during the singing of the National Anthem. Angered that the photo was released (and because the reporter erroneously stated the photo was taken during the Pledge of Allegiance rather than the singing of the national anthem, Obama said: "This is the classic dirty trick. This was not the Pledge of Allegiance. The woman was singing the Star Spangled Banner."

As a sign of respect to their nation, many Americans place their hand over their heart when the National Anthem is played as well as when they recite the Pledge. In his case, Obama said "...I was taught by my grandfather that you put your hands over your heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. The Star Spangled Banner, you sing." Only, when you look at the photo, its very clear that neither Obama nor the others on stage are singing. It was, however, the singing of the national anthem.

All the time he was around either his father or stepfather, Obama was either in Hawaii or Indonesia. Thus, neither his paternal grandfather nor the father of his stepfather would have tutored him on placing his hand over his heart during the US Pledge of Allegiance, nor the singing the American Star Spangled Banner. Rest assured that Indonesian homes don't recite the Pledge or sing the US national anthem. And while Hawaii had been a State for three years before Obama was born, logic suggests its not likely an atheist mother and an Islamic father would teach him to recite the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Star Spangled Banner.

In his teen years Obama moved back to Honolulu where he lived with his maternal grandparents. In his rebuttal, you will recall, Obama claimed his grandfather had taught him to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge, and to sing the national anthem. History has a problem with that on both sides of the family. Like his mother who was an atheist, so were her parents. Obama's grandmother, he said in interviews, "...was too rational and too stubborn to accept anything she couldn't see, feel, touch or count." His maternal grandfather was also an atheist who "...had an innate rebelliousness and a complete inability to discipline his appetites...who...experimented with marijuana and cocaine." An atheist is not going to teach his grandson to respect the Pledge of Allegiance which pays homage to God.

In August, 2006 US Senator Barack Obama [D-IL] made a special trip to visit a special man in Kenya. The man's name was Raila Amolo Odinga. He is the head of the National Muslim Leaders Forum [NAMLEF] in Kenya. The political party he heads is called the Orange Democratic Movement [ODM]—although there is definitely nothing democratic about his political party of NAMLEF. The ODM is dedicated to overthrowing the legitimate democratic government of Kenya. Odinga is not really concerned how he achieves his objective. It matters little to him if he assumes power through a free election—or by revolution. But, by hook or crook, he is determined to become the president of Kenya. If he succeeds, he will be president for life and Kenya will become another Afghanistan.

When the US Senator visited Kenya to meet with Odinga in Nairobi, the Kenyan government officially denounced the visit.

And, most specifically, they denounced Obama. According to a Kenyan government spokesman, Obama's bias for his friend was so blatant that the government found it necessary to complain that Obama appeared to be Odinga's stooge. Not only did Obama campaign for his Islamic friend, he convinced former Clinton adviser Dick Morris to become Odinga's campaign adviser. Odinga bothers the US State Department for a couple of reasons.

First, after losing the democratic election on December 27, Raila Odinga cut a deal for support from Vladimir Putin and the former Soviet Union. Odinga knows he has to overthrow the government to gain power. When he lost the election, he protested that the vote was rigged to keep him from claiming an election he won. He incited his tribal followers to go on a murderous rampage in towns that were primarily Christian.

Throughout Kenya, hundreds of people were murdered. What shocked the west is that the Kenyan media—and the political power brokers within the country—out of fear of Odinga, appear to be suggesting that perhaps the election should be held over to stop the violence and the potential for long term Muslim terrorism.

In a wave of violence aimed at protesting what they call the illegal election of newly-elected Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki, a group of Christian women and children—some entire families—barricaded themselves in a church. Muslims, inflamed by Odinga's men, torched the church and burned to death everyone inside.

This is the man Obama campaigned for in Kenya, and sang the praises of. This is also the man who claims that Barack Obama is a close, personal friend. Christianity would be outlawed.

There would be a complete ban on the public consumption of alcoholic beverages and a ban on western-style dress for women since this type of garb is considered immoral and an offense to the Muslim faith. Raila Obinga, it seems, would impose the same type of Shariah law that was imposed on Afghanistan by the Taliban. Odinga would degree that no Muslim living in Kenya—whether a citizen, visitor or relative of a citizen of Kenya (such as Obama, whose grandmother is a citizen of Kenya)‚shall be subject to any legal process involving the laws of a foreign country and in particular any Muslim arrested for, or suspected of, terrorism, or of any other international crimes shall only be tried inside the borders of Kenya and shall be granted a competent lawyer of his or her choice at the expense of the government.

The American people need to be asking Barack Obama a whole different list of questions when they attend his political rallies on his quest to become the leader of the free world.

They need to ask the man who he really is because, up to this point on the campaign trail, he has lied to them. The American people need to find an honest candidate. Barack Obama is not that man.


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Posté le 10/11/2008 07:49:40 (10/11/2008 16:49:40)

ELECTION 2008 - OBAMA RAISED FUNDS FOR ISLAMIC CAUSES

Speeches for Palestinian refugees called code for Israel's destruction

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Posted: February 25, 2008
10:18 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily


Sen. Barack Obama (WND photo)

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama has spoken at fundraisers for Palestinians living in what the United Nations terms refugee camps, WND has learned.

Palestinians have long demanded the "right of return" for millions of "refugees," a formula Israeli officials across the political spectrum warn is code for Israel's destruction by flooding the Jewish state with millions of Muslim Arabs, thereby changing its demographics.

In a conference call last month with Jewish and Israeli media aimed primarily at dispelling Internet reports he is anti-Israel, Obama stated "Palestinian refugees" belong in their own state and do not have a "literal" right of return to Israel.

"We cannot move forward until there is some confidence that the Palestinians are able to provide the security apparatus that would prevent constant attacks against Israel from taking place," continued Obama during the conference with Jewish journalists.

But in the 1990s Obama was a speaker at events in Chicago's large Palestinian immigrant community to raise funds for U.N. camps for the so-called Palestinian refugees.

Ali Abunimah, a Chicago-based Palestinian-American activist and co-founder of Electronic Intifada, a pro-Palestinian online publication, recalls introducing Obama at one such event, a 1999 fundraiser for the Deheisha Palestinian camp in the West Bank.

Abunimah is also a harsh critic of Israel and has protested outside pro-Israel events in the Chicago area.

"I knew Barack Obama for many years as my state senator – when he used to attend events in the Palestinian community in Chicago all the time," stated Abuminah during an interview last month with Democracy Now!, a nationally syndicated radio and television political program.

"I remember personally introducing [Obama] onstage in 1999, when we had a major community fundraiser for the community center in Deheisha refugee camp in the occupied West Bank. And that's just one example of how Barack Obama used to be very comfortable speaking up for and being associated with Palestinian rights and opposing the Israeli occupation," Abunimah said.

Abunimah also was recently quoted saying that until a few years ago, Obama was "quite frank that the U.S. needed to be more evenhanded, that it leaned too much toward Israel."

Abunimah noted Obama's unusual stance toward Israel, commenting "these were the kind of statements I'd never heard from a U.S. politician who seemed like he was going somewhere, rather than at the end of his career."

'Critical of U.S. bias toward Israel'

Abunimah previously described meeting with Obama at a fundraiser at the home of Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, reportedly a former PLO activist.

"[Obama]came with his wife. That's where I had a chance to really talk to him," Abunimah recalled. "It was an intimate setting. He convinced me he was very aware of the issues [and] critical of U.S. bias toward Israel and lack of sensitivity to Arabs. ... He was very supportive of U.S. pressure on Israel.

According to quotes obtained by Gulf News, Abunimah recalled a 2004 meeting in a Chicago neighborhood while Obama was running for his Senate seat. Abunimah quoted Obama telling him "warmly" he was sorry that "I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race."

"I'm hoping when things calm down, I can be more up front," Abunimah reportedly quoted the senator as saying.

Abunimah said Obama urged him to "keep up the good work" at the Chicago Tribune, where Abunimah contributed guest columns that were highly critical of Israel.

Obama's campaign headquarters did not reply to an e-mail request seeking comment on his fundraising activities for Palestinians.

Abunimah serves on the board of the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a "catastrophe" and supports intense immigration reform, including providing driver's licenses and education to illegal aliens.

WND reported yesterday the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit on which Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist, provided $75,000 in grants to the AAAN.

The co-founder of AAAN is Columbia's Khalidi, who held a 2000 fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi, a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the PLO while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

'Very active' terror apparatus

Obama's 1999 fundraising for the Palestinian Deheisha camp raised the eyebrows of one senior Israeli security official who was contacted yesterday for comment on the issue. The official, who was not aware of Obama's fundraising, noted Deheisha, which is located near the city of Bethlehem, had a "very active" Palestinian terror apparatus in 1999, carrying out scores of deadly shootings against Israeli civilians that year.

Two of the most deadly suicide bombings in 2002 also were planned from Deheisha, where the suicide bombers originated, said the security official. On one such bombing, in March of that year, 11 people were killed and over 50 injured, four critically when a Deheisha bomber detonated his explosives next to a group of Jewish women waiting with their baby carriages for their husbands to leave a nearby synagogue.

The question of so-called Palestinian refugees is a sensitive one for supporters of Israel. All Israeli prime ministers have stated a final peace deal with the Palestinians cannot include the "return" of "refugees."

When Arab countries attacked the Jewish state after its creation in 1948, some 725,000 Arabs living within Israel's borders fled or were flushed out when the Jewish state pushed back attacking Arab armies. Also at that time, about 820,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries or fled following rampant persecution.

While most Jewish refugees were absorbed by Israel and other countries, the majority of Palestinian Arabs have been maintained in 59 U.N.-run camps that do not seek to settle those Arabs elsewhere.

There are currently about 4 million Arabs who claim Palestinian refugee status with the U.N., including children and grandchildren of the original fleeing Arabs; Arabs living full-time in Jordan; and Arabs who long ago emigrated throughout the Middle East and to the West.

Other cases of worldwide refugees aided by the U.N. are handled through the international body's High Commission for Refugees, which seeks to settle the refugees quickly, usually in countries other than those from which they fled.

The U.N. created a special agency – the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, or UNRWA – specifically to handle registered Palestinian refugees. It's the only refugee case handled by the U.N. in which the declared refugees are housed and maintained in camps for generations instead of facilitating the refugees' resettlement elsewhere.

The U.N. officially restricts the definition of refugee status worldwide for nationalities outside the Palestinian arena to those who fled a country of nationality or habitual residence due to persecution, who are unable to return to their place of residence and who have not yet been resettled. Future generations of original refugees are not included in the U.N.'s definition of refugees.

But the U.N. uses a different set of criteria only when defining a Palestinian refugee – allowing future generations to be considered refugees; terming as refugees those Arabs who have been resettled in other countries, such as hundreds of thousands in Jordan; removing the clause requiring persecution; and removing the clause requiring a refugee to be fleeing his or her "country of nationality or habitual residence."

Palestinian leaders, including Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, routinely refer to the "right of return," claiming the declared right is mandated by the U.N. But the two U.N. resolutions dealing with the refugee issue recommend that Israel "achieve a just settlement" for the "refugee problem." The resolutions, which are not binding, do not speak of any "right of return" and leave open the possibility of monetary compensation or other kinds of settlements.

Obama worked with terrorist

Obama's advocacy on behalf of Palestinians comes after WND reported yesterday the presidential candidate served on the board of the Woods Fund alongside William C. Ayers, a member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombings against government buildings.

Ayers, who still serves on the Woods Fund board, contributed $200 to Obama's senatorial campaign fund and has served on panels with Obama at numerous public speaking engagements. Ayers admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s. He is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Ayers has boasted of his involvement with the Weathermen terror group's bombings of the New York City Police headquarters in 1970, the Capitol in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972.

"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough," Ayers told the New York Times in an interview released Sept. 11, 2001

"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon," Ayers wrote in his memoirs, titled "Fugitive Days." He continued with a disclaimer that he didn't personally set the bombs, but his group set the explosives and planned the attack.

A $200 campaign contribution is listed April 2, 2001, by the "Friends of Barack Obama" campaign fund. The two appeared as speakers together at several public events, including a 1997 University of Chicago panel entitled, "Should a child ever be called a 'super predator?'" and another panel for the University of Illinois in April 2002, entitled, "Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?"

The charges against Ayers were dropped in 1974 because of prosecutorial misconduct, including illegal surveillance.

Ayers is married to another notorious Weathermen terrorist, Bernadine Dohrn, who also has served on panels with Obama. Dohrn was once on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted List and was described by J. Edgar Hoover as the "most dangerous woman in America." Ayers and Dohrn raised the son of Weathermen terrorist Kathy Boudin, who was serving a sentence for participating in a 1981 murder and robbery that left four people dead.

Obama adviser wants talks with terrorists

Last month WND quoted Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.

Malley, a principal Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for numerous policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.

Malley also previously penned a well-circulated New York Review of Books piece largely blaming Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern sections of Jerusalem and instead returned to the Middle East to launch an intifada, or terrorist campaign, against the Jewish state.

Malley's contentions have been strongly refuted by key participants at Camp David, including President Bill Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross, all of whom squarely blamed Arafat's refusal to make peace for the talks' failure.

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OBAMA SECRETLY PLEDGED COOPERATION WITH SYRIA
Said to favor Israel's retreat from strategic Golan Heights

Posted: November 09, 2008
6:33 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein
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Syrian Ambassador Imad Moustapha

JERUSALEM – Representatives of President-elect Barack Obama recently told Syrian officials that Obama supports ending their county's isolation and that as president he would work to bring Damascus into the international community, a Syrian diplomatic source revealed to WND.

The source said the pledges were made this past summer in a meeting in Washington, D.C., between Obama's policy aids and Syrian Ambassador Imad Moustapha. The source said Moustapha was asked at the time by Obama's camp not to comment on the meeting.

The source said Moustapha was told that Obama favors engagement and economic cooperation with Syria as opposed to the Bush administration's policy of isolating the country and imposing economic sanctions.

The source also disclosed Obama's team said the president-elect favors talks between Israel and Syria leading to an Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights, strategic, mountainous territory looking down on Israeli population centers that was twice used in the past by Syria to mount ground invasions into the Jewish state.

The information comes at a time when U.S.-Syrian relations seem to be reaching a low point following a U.S. military raid on Syrian soil last month that reportedly targeted elements of a robust foreign fighter logistics network operating from Syria and planning attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq. A U.S. military official said the raid was carried out due to Syrian inaction against insurgents working in its country.

The U.S. has long accused Syria of failing to halt insurgents from using Syrian territory to smuggle weapons into Iraq or to stage attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq.

Syria is accused of fomenting instability in Lebanon and has been widely blamed for a series of political assassinations there against anti-Syrian leaders, including the 2005 car bomb murder of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri.

Syria also openly hosts the chiefs of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad terror groups.

Yesterday, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad called on the U.S. to pull its troops out of Iraq, claiming the troops pose a threat to neighboring states.

"The presence in Iraq of American forces of occupation is a permanent threat to neighboring countries and an element of instability in the region," Assad said in a speech to Arab parliamentarians in Damascus.

Obama has been a harsh critic of the war in Iraq and has pledged to make ending the war a top priority.

After the Illinois senator won last week's election, the official Syrian state-run SANA news agency quoted Syrian Information Minister Mohsen Bilal as expressing hope that Obama would "change US foreign policy from a policy of war and siege to one of diplomacy and dialogue."

Bilal made the comments during a trip to Cuba last Wednesday, the report said.

While the Syrian diplomatic source speaking to WND said his country was told Obama supports diplomacy over sanctions, it wasn't immediately clear what was asked of Syria in return for U.S. engagement.

Last April, a top Syrian official told WND his country floated a proposal to the Bush administration stating that if the U.S. helps facilitate billions of dollars in business for Syria and builds up Damascus as the primary American ally in the Arab world in place of Saudi Arabia, the Syrians would be willing to discuss scaling back alliances with Iran and making peace with Israel.

He said Syria also demanded as a key condition for considering altering its alliances that the U.S. cease opposing Syrian influence in Lebanon.

"Syria is the key to the Arab world. We have influence with Hezbollah and Lebanon and hold many cards in the Palestinian and Iraqi arenas," said the official, who spoke by phone from Damascus on condition his name be withheld. "The U.S. needs to rethink the value of the investment it places in Saudi Arabia."

The official said Syria is asking the U.S. to end its opposition to a trade and association agreement between Damascus and the European Union drafted in 2004 that is said to be worth about $7 billion per year for the Syrian economy. The agreement was not signed or implemented, largely due to American pressure, said the Syrian official.

Syria is also asking the U.S. not to object to Syrian "influence" in Lebanon, which was occupied for nearly 30 years by Syrian forces until protests prompted by Hariri's assassination. Pro-democracy Lebanese leaders accuse Syria of meddling in Lebanon's affairs by directing the Hezbollah terrorist group, which holds key parliamentary seats, to interfere in the election of a new Lebanese president.

The main Syrian request is that America uphold Damascus as its main "partner" in the Arab world instead of Saudi Arabia, said the Syrian official.

He said in exchange Damascus would discuss severing "many ties" with Iran, but he would not specify which ties and whether Syria is willing to cut off all coordination with the Iranians.

"We are ready to significantly and deeply reduce relations with our Iranian brothers if conditions are met," the official said.

He said Syria is willing to sign a treaty with Israel and come to some sort of accommodation regarding the strategic Golan Heights, mountainous territory looking down on Israeli population centers which Syria used twice to launch ground invasions into the Jewish state.

The official claimed the Golan was not "the biggest obstacle" in preventing a Syrian-American-Israeli agreement.

He claimed Syria would "not categorically reject the idea of leasing some sections of the Golan to Israel for up to 99 years."

Just yesterday, Israeli leaders, including sitting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzippi Livni, expressed public willingness to engage in direct negotiations with Syria regarding the Golan Heights.

Security officials in Jerusalem confirmed in April to WND their knowledge of the Syrian offers to the U.S., which they said prompted a major crisis between Syria and Saudi Arabia.

According to the security officials, Saudi Arabia earlier this year began shipping weapons to the anti-Syrian leadership in Lebanon to bolster them against Damascus' influence and the Syrian-backed Hezbollah.

The Syrian-Saudi crisis was highlighted at last March's Arab Summit, a major annual meeting of Arab leaders, which was held this year in Damascus. Saudi Arabia sent only a low-level representative – which was seen as a major snub to Syria – and used the platform to blast Syria.

According to knowledgeable Arab diplomatic sources, Saudi Arabia wanted to boycott the event altogether, but sent the low-level delegation to uphold its record of attending every Arab Summit.

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DANIEL PIPES RELIED ON DISPUTED LA TIMES ARTICLE TO REVIVE OBAMA-MUSLIM FALSEHOOD

Summary: On FrontPageMag.com, Daniel Pipes purported to consider whether Sen. Barack Obama was "ever a Muslim or seen by others as a Muslim." But in support of his statement that "available evidence suggests Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing," Pipes cited a March Los Angeles Times article, critical parts of which have been challenged by the Chicago Tribune.


In an article dated December 24 (and posted on right-wing pundit David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com website on December 26), Middle East Forum director Daniel Pipes purported to consider whether Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) was "ever a Muslim or seen by others as a Muslim" -- or, "[m]ore precisely," he wrote, "might Muslims consider him a 'murtadd' (apostate), that is, a Muslim who converted to another religion and, therefore someone whose blood may be shed." Drawing heavily on a March 16 Los Angeles Times article (reprinted in the Baltimore Sun) and its quotations of Zulfin Adi, who the Times reported "describes himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends," Pipes concluded that "available evidence suggests Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father." However, key aspects of the March 16 Los Angeles Times article were later challenged by the Chicago Tribune, which reported that Adi said he "was not certain" about his statements regarding Obama's childhood and that he "only knew Obama for a few months." Additionally, the Tribune reported that "[i]nterviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia."

Also, while writing that Obama "was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father," Pipes did not note that Obama's Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, has been described in the Tribune as "much more of a free spirit than a devout Muslim."

In his December 24 article, Pipes relied heavily on the Los Angeles Times' March 16 article and its quotations of Adi:

Two months later, Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times (available online in a Baltimore Sun reprint) reported that the Obama campaign had retreated from that absolute statement and instead issued a more nuanced one: "Obama has never been a practicing Muslim." The Times looked into the matter further and learned more about his Indonesian interlude:

His former Roman Catholic and Muslim teachers, along with two people who were identified by Obama's grade-school teacher as childhood friends, say Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended. That registration meant that during the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class.

The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. "We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque," Zulfin Adi said. "But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played." ... Obama's younger sister, Maya Soetoro, said in a statement released by the campaign that the family attended the mosque only "for big communal events," not every Friday.

Recalling Obama's time in Indonesia, the Times account contains quotes that Obama "went to the mosque," and that he "was Muslim."

Summarized, available evidence suggests Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father. At some point, he converted to Christianity. It appears false to state, as Obama does, "I've always been a Christian" and "I've never practiced Islam." The campaign appears to be either ignorant or fabricating when it states that "Obama never prayed in a mosque."

Pipes' excerpt of the Times article differs from how it appears in the reprinted version that he linked to in The Sun, and from the original Los Angeles Times version as it appears in the Nexis database, both of which reported that Adi "describe[d] himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends," an assertion that is inconsistent with the Tribune's report that Adi "only knew Obama for a few months, during 1970, when his family moved to the neighborhood." Other reprinted versions of the article, such as the March 18 Sun-Sentinel (Florida) version and Pipes' excerpt, did not contain Adi's descrïption of himself. Adi, as noted above and by Media Matters for America here, reportedly backed away from his statements regarding his childhood friendship with Obama. The Chicago Tribune reported on March 25:

Obama and his mother moved from Honolulu to Jakarta to join Soetoro in 1967, when Obama was 6. Here, Obama became "Barry Soetoro."

In their first neighborhood, Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers, a few neighbors said. But Soetoro usually was too busy working, first for the Indonesian army and later for a Western oil company.

"Sometimes Lolo went to the mosque to pray, but he rarely socialized with people," said Fermina Katarina Sinaga, Obama's 3rd-grade teacher at the Catholic school, who lived near the family. "Rarely, Barry went to the mosque with Lolo."

Zulfan Adi, a former neighborhood playmate of Obama's who has been cited in news reports as saying Obama regularly attended Friday prayers with Soetoro, told the Tribune he was not certain about that when pressed about his recollections. He only knew Obama for a few months, during 1970, when his family moved to the neighborhood.

Soetoro, who died in 1987, was hardly the image of a pious Muslim, friends and family members say.

His nephew, Sonny Trisulo, 49, said Soetoro always liked women and alcohol. One of his health problems was a failing liver. "He loved drinking, was a smart and warm person, the naughtiest one in the family," Trisulo recalled.

In a December 30 post titled "The Muslim smear, version 2.0," Politico writer Ben Smith criticized the Pipes article, writing: "Keep an eye on this one, because if Obama's the nominee, this Front Page magazine piece by the conservative writer Daniel Pipes is likely to be the template for a faux-legitimate assault on Obama's religion." Smith wrote that Pipes' article is "pretty stunning in the twists of its logic," adding: "But the political impact of the piece isn't the tortured argument. It's branding Obama a Muslim, by a subtler means." In an update to his post, Smith wrote: "Pipes is reportedly advising Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign, but he said in an email he hadn't discussed the column with the campaign or heard from them about it. Giuliani spokeswoman Katie Levinson noted that he's not ... a part of the campaign's formal advisory structure."

—S.S.M., M.K., & J.S.


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ACTIVIST: 'PASTOR TO PRESIDENTS' REPLACED BY GAY BISHOP

Jim Brown - OneNewsNow - 11/12/2008 6:50:00 AM

A conservative Christian activist says it's a sad omen for the Obama administration and the United States that Barack Obama has been seeking guidance from the Episcopal Church's first openly homosexual bishop.



The Times of London reports that the president-elect sought out New Hampshire homosexual bishop Vicki Gene Robinson for advice three times during his presidential campaign. Robinson, whose ordination in the Episcopal Church has caused a deep rift within the Anglican Communion, was reportedly sought out by Obama to discuss what it feels like to be "first."



Robinson notes in their three private conversations, Obama voiced his support for "equal civil rights" for homosexuals and described the election as a "religious experience." Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality http://americansfortruth.com/ , believes Obama's consultations with Robinson show the true tenor of his upcoming administration.

"It looks like Billy Graham has been replaced by a gay bishop. We're moving to, perhaps, our first anti-Christian president; it's beyond post-Christian. Gene Robinson advocates homosexuality as part of the Christian experience," he explains. "Now Bible-believing Christians cannot accept that. Homosexual practice is sinful, as taught by the scrïptures. This man [Obama] pretends to be faithful to Christianity, even as he works very hard to undermine it."

LaBarbera suggests Robinson may possibly replace Jeremiah Wright as one of Obama's main spiritual advisers. Wright was Obama's Chicago pastor for 20 years before disassociating with the controversial preacher during the presidential campaign.


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BARACK OBAMA READS WITCHCRAFT TO HIS CHILDREN

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=irB7BGHzXjM&feature=related

BARACK OBAMA ON HARRY POTTER
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pvY3cSmW1cw

OBAMA SE MOQUE DE CERTAINS PASSAGES DE LA BIBLE.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIrrGqckSQg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaNXqZGDYWc&feature=related


LA SORCELLERIE

Ces dernières quarante années, il y a eu un intérêt renaissant pour la sorcellerie dans toutes ses formes. La plus importante a été la présentation de la sorcellerie comme un sujet innocent et intéressant dans la littérature et les films.

Comme d ‘habitude, 95% des chrétiens n’utilisent pas leur discernement, se laissant manipuler par les médias, et accueillant à bras ouverts cette séduction « embellie » de la sorcellerie avec la masse trompée de la population, en faisant à peine attention aux nombreux avertissements de la Bible nous prévenant de ne pas ouvrir la porte à Satan qui vient dévorer comme un lion rugissant. Jésus dit à Pierre, « Simon, Simon, Satan vous a réclamés, pour vous cribler comme le froment, et c’est exactement, ce que Satan fera si nous ne posons pas la question « que ferait Jésus ? » avant de lire un livre, de regarder un film, de s’engager dans une relation ou de poursuivre certaines choses .

La sorcellerie inclut la manipulation de la horde démoniaque, par des incantations et le lancement de sorts. La sorcellerie peut aussi impliquer une communication avec des esprits démoniaques se faisant passer pour des morts,“esprits familiers”. La Bible enseigne clairement que les morts ne peuvent pas communiquer avec les vivants à cause du gouffre qui sépare les morts des vivants (Luc 16 :26). Ces démons, des entités spirituelles désincarnées, ont une connaissance des activités des humains et une capacité limitée pour prédire le futur.

Voici quelques écritures sur la sorcellerie :

L’Ancien et le nouveau Testament définissent la sorcellerie comme une pratique mauvaise, rebelle et détestable. Ceux qui la pratiquaient n’étaient pas tolérés. « Tu ne laisseras point vivre la magicienne » (Exode 22 :18).

Moise avertit les enfants d’Israël : « Lorsque tu seras entré dans le pays que l’Eternel, ton Dieu, te donne, tu n’apprendras point à imiter les abominations de ces nations-là. Qu’on ne trouve chez toi personne qui fasse passer son fils ou sa fille par le feu, personne qui exerce le métier de devin, d’astrologue, d’augure, de magicien, d’enchanteur, personne qui consulte ceux qui évoquent les esprits ou disent la bonne aventure, personne qui interroge les morts. Car quiconque fait ces choses est en abomination à l’Eternel ; et c’est à cause de ces abominations que l’Eternel, ton Dieu, va chasser ces nations devant toi. Tu seras entièrement à l’Eternel, ton Dieu. Car ses nations que tu chasseras écoutent les astrologues et les devins ; mais à toi, l’Eternel, ton Dieu, ne le permet pas. » (Deutéronome 18 :9-14).

La Bible dit du roi mauvais Manassé qui régna à Jérusalem cinquante-cinq ans : « Il fit ce qui est mal aux yeux de l ‘Eternel, selon les abominations des nations que l’Eternel avait chassées devant les enfants d’Israël « (2 Chroniques 33 :2). « Il fit passer par le feu ses fils par le feu dans la vallée des fils de Hinnom ; il pratiqua la sorcellerie, la divination et la magie et consulta des médiums et des gens qui évoquaient les esprits. Il fit de plus en plus ce qui est mal aux yeux de l’Eternel, afin de l’irriter » (2 Chroniques 33 : 6). Quand Samuel reprit Saul, il compara le péché de divination et de la résistance au mal de l’idolâtrie. La sorcellerie comprend à la fois la divination et l’idolâtrie. « Car la désobéissance est aussi coupable que la divination, et la résistance ne l’est pas moins que l’idolâtrie. Puisque tu as rejeté la parole de l’Eternel, il te rejette aussi comme roi. » (1 Samuel 15 :23). Si Saul fut rejeté par Dieu à cause de sa rébellion et sa résistance, alors il en sera de même pour la personne de nos jours qui pratique la sorcellerie et l’idolâtrie, ou qui se laissent divertir par celles-ci).

La Bible énonce clairement le sort de ceux qui aiment creuser dans l'occulte, ou comme le définit C.S Lewis ceux qui, "s'en passionnent": "Car tu as abandonné ton peuple, la maison de Jacob, parce qu'ils sont pleins de l'Orient, et adonnés à la magie comme les Philistins" (Esaïe 2:6). "Entre dans les cavernes des rochers, et cache-toi dans la poussière, pour éviter la terreur de l'Eternel et l'éclat de sa majesté. L'homme au regard hautain sera abaissé, et l'orgueilleux sera humilié: l'Eternel seul sera élevé ce jour-là. Car il y a un jour pour l'Eternel des armées contre tout homme orgueilleux et hautain, contre quiconque s'élève, afin qu'il soit abaissé...Toutes les idoles disparaîtront". (Esaïe 2:10-18).

Paul dans Galates 5:19-21 associe la sorcellerie (ou la magie) aux oeuvres de la chair. "Or, les oeuvres de la chair sont évidentes; ce sont la débauche, l'impureté, le dérèglement, l'idolâtrie, la magie, les rivalités, les querelles, les jalousies, les animosités, les disputes, les divisions, les sectes, l'envie, l'ivrognerie, les excès de table, et les choses semblables. Je vous dis d'avance, comme je l'ai déjà dit, que ceux qui commettent de telles choses n'hériteront point le royaume de Dieu." Il est intéressant de voir que l'avertissement de Paul s'adressait aux Eglises de Galates dont les membres étaient déjà chrétiens: en commettant des actions pécheresses, ils n'hériteraient pas du royaume de Dieu. Cet avertissement était pour ceux qui avaient accepté Christ. Le chrétien d'aujourd'hui qui se laisse divertir, lui ou ses enfants, par les oeuvres de la chair ( y compris la sorcellerie) ou participant à celles-ci devrait sérieusement faire attention à cet avertissement.

La magie blanche et la magie noire ne sont pas tolérées dans le christianisme et la grâce ne peut être prise en vain. Christ est mort sur la croix pour nous pardonner de nos péchés, mais nous n'avons aucune excuse pour prendre le péché à la légère. Commettre toute sorte de péchés, y compris la sorcellerie ouvre la porte à l'oppression démoniaque et la possession par un péché persistent.

On ne peut pas affirmer ne pas être impliqué dans la sorcellerie, mais à côté se laisser divertir par des livres ou des films dont les caractères le sont, même s'ils sont de ''bons'' sorciers.

Le personnage Harry Potter, de la série best-seller Harry Potter (livres et film) va à l'Ecole Hogwarts de Sorcellerie et de Magie pour devenir magicien. Harris et ses copains prennent des cours pour jeter des sorts, des cours de brouillons et de potions magiques, de transfiguration, d'histoire de la magie, de théorie magique etc...Ils apprennent à devenir de "bons" magiciens et sorciers. Le mal est représenté par le "Côté Noir", nous rappelant le "Côté Noir" de la Force dans "La guerre des Etoiles", et incarné (ou désincarné puis cherchant à se réincarner) en Voldemort, le méchant magicien qui a tué les parents de Harry.

Harry est dépeint comme un garçon ordinaire, opprimé pas ses tantes, oncles et cousin, des gens ordinaires, ce qui nous rappelle l'oppression de Cendrillon chez elle. Les membres d'une famille très ordinaire nous sont présentés excessivement oppressifs.

Pour le modèle chrétien, le problème chez Harry, c'est la façon dont il va s'échapper de sa situation : en partant de chez lui pour apprendre la sorcellerie, une pratique condamnée. Les enfants sont en contact avec des fantômes comme le Moine et le professeur Binns, un fantôme qui enseigne l'histoire de la magie. Le professeur Binns est un très vieux professeur qui s'endormit près du feu de la salle des profs et alla enseigner le lendemain, hors de son corps.

Le christianisme enseigne que la sorcellerie, derrière une apparence séduisante et innocente, est un mal et que la rédemption ne vient que par Jésus Christ, et certainement pas de l'occulte. Communiquer avec les morts, c'est en réalité communiquer avec des démons ou des "anges déchus". Jeter des sorts n'est pas permis.

Dans le christianisme, le salut ne vient pas de la sorcellerie, mais en acceptant le Fils de Dieu. Ce qui est bon est de Dieu, et vient de son adoration. La sorcellerie "innocente" ou "mécanique" reste de la sorcellerie et donc néfaste. Exposer ses enfants à une forte dose de surnaturel, mais s'il est présenté par les activités de personnages sympathiques, n'est pas acceptable. L'appel séducteur de l'occulte dans les films et dessins animés pour enfants peut être attrayant. Les esprits frappeurs, les fantômes, les balais volants, les loups-garous, les vampires, les sorcières, les géants, les chauves-souris, les lutins, les couloirs hantés peuvent être captivants, mais peuvent introduire un esprit de peur. Ils peuvent être certainement "sombres et lourds" et s'y exposer peut créer une dépendance. Ce fut le cas pour l'auteur lui-même. Il était impliqué dans des séances de spiritisme, dans la chiromancie, dans l'astrologie et la méditation orientale avant d'accepter Jésus Christ. L'intérêt pour l'occulte a commencé en regardant des films d'horreur tard la nuit et en lisant des BD sur le surnaturel.

Outre la dimension noire du surnaturel, il y a aussi la dimension "bonne" représentée par le royaume céleste (Dieu, Ses chérubin et multitude d'anges). En général, cette dimension-là est rarement présentée dans les dessins animés pour enfants ou dans les dernières oeuvres littéraires. Quand a-t-on vu pour la dernière fois des anges dans les dessins animés du samedi? Les lutins dans "le Seigneur des Anneaux" sont des créatures angéliques plutôt épouvantables, effrayant les Cavaliers Noirs de Sauron en poursuite de Frodo.

C'est la responsabilité des parents de surveiller les programmes que regardent leurs enfants. Des études ont montré que les enfants et adultes qui regardent régulièrement des scènes violentes sur l'écran en deviennent insensibles. Il en est de même pour une exposition intense à l'occulte. Jésus dit, "Il est impossible qu'il n'arrive pas des scandales; mais malheur à celui par qui ils arrivent! Il vaudrait mieux pour lui qu'on mette à son cou une pierre de moulin et qu'on le jette dans la mer, que s'il scandalisait un de ces petits" (Luc 17:1-2).

Donc, que dira-t-on du chrétien qui se divertit avec l'occulte? Une analogie peut être faite avec une personne qui, sans être impliquée dans des relations sexuelles immorales, se divertit par des livres et des magazines pornographiques. On ne peut être chrétien et "voyeur". Ce qui est considéré être un péché chez un enfant, l'est aussi chez un adulte. Christ n'a aucun respect pour la bibliothèque "adulte", ni pour le voyeur "adulte". Ceux qui agissent dans les ténèbres y sombreront. Le poison reste du poison. Un peu de poison pour s'amuser peut être aussi fatal qu'une grande dose dans la main d'un assassin. Une séance de spiritisme n'est pas un divertissement (séance de channeling).

Pour tous ceux qui se sont livrés à des conduites pécheresses, y compris l'occulte ou le voyeurisme sexuel, il n'existe qu'un seul moyen de purification, rien d'autre que le sang expiatoire de Jésus Christ. Les non-chrétiens comme les chrétiens doivent se repentir de leurs péchés en demandant à Dieu de les pardonner. Ceux qui ne sont pas chrétiens doivent inviter Jésus par une simple prière afin qu'il vienne prendre le contrôle de leur vie ("Jésus, j'accepte ton sacrifice pour moi sur la croix. Pardonne-moi de mes péchés. Viens s'il te plait dans ma vie, et prends le contrôle. Aide-moi à marcher dans ta lumière").

Prenez l'exemple des sorciers et sorcières qui parvinrent à la connaissance salvatrice de Christ dans Actes 19:19, "Et un certain nombre de ceux qui avaient exercé les arts magiques, ayant apporté leurs livres, les brûlèrent devant tout le monde: on en estima la valeur à cinquante mille pièces d'argent." Tous les objets occultes devraient être détruits car ils sont des véhicules ou des "portes" pour l'activité et l'oppression démoniaques. Ils sont en fait comme des aimants qui attirent les démons.

Dieu n'est pas un dieu mauvais. Il n'est pas vengeur, mais nous a donné dans la Bible, un manuel de mécanicien pour notre bien-être. Si nous persistons à mettre de la limonade dans notre moteur au lieu de mettre de l'huile, nous l'abîmerons. Si nous n'obéissons pas les avertissements de Dieu au sujet de la sorcellerie, les comportements et promiscuité sexuels, la colère, l'envie, et l'abus de substances toxiques, nous détruirons nos corps et condamnerons notre âme pour l'éternité. Vous ne croyez peut-être pas en Dieu, mais la violation de ses principes provoquera néanmoins la destruction. La sorcellerie vous attire et vous rassure peut-être. Elle vous procure peut-être le succès et de la puissance, ainsi qu'une sensation de "bien-être". Mais néanmoins, c'est mauvais et dangereux, comme l'était le serpent pour Adam et Eve dans le jardin.

Pour ceux qui se sont allés assez loin dans l'occulte, jusqu'à la pratique même de la sorcellerie, il faudrait qu'ils cherchent l'aide d'un pasteur d'une église remplie de l'Esprit et centré sur Christ, ayant un ministère de délivrance. Souvenez-vous que vous avez autorité sur toutes les principautés démoniaques dans le nom de Jésus une fois que vous l'avez accepté comme votre sauveur personnel et que vous êtes couvert de Son sang ("Seigneur, les démons même nous sont soumis en ton nom" Luc 10:17).

Vers les années 50, la Science a remplacé Dieu. Une faim spirituelle s'ensuivit qui chercha à s'exprimer dans la contre-culture des années 60 et 70 dans la drogue, les religions orientales, la promiscuité sexuelle. Ceci nous amena au matérialisme et le culte de soi dans les années 80 et 90. Aucun de ces substituts ne peut remplacer la faim spirituelle profonde de l'homme. L'absence de Dieu ne peut être remplacée que par la présence de Dieu, et certainement pas par des contrefaçons, tel que la sorcellerie. La sorcellerie, comme le sexe illicite, peut pour un moment apporter de l'excitation et du plaisir, mais seule une relation personnelle avec le Dieu de l'Univers, par son Fils Jésus Christ, donnera de la satisfaction, de la joie et la vie éternelle.


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THE CATHOLIC CONNECTION TO BARACK OBAMA

Phyllis Schlafly
Published: 11-14-08

Do you wonder why 2008 election data shows that the majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama even though his record as Illinois state senator proves him the most pro-abortion candidate who ever ran for president?

Perhaps one answer is that on the Sunday before Thanksgiving, millions of Catholics will again be putting in their church's collection plate their annual donation to what the pre-printed envelope calls "Campaign for Human Development: The Catholic Church working to end poverty and injustice in America; We'll turn your dollars into hope for the poor of our nation."

The generous Catholics who respond to that well-phrased appeal probably think they are making a Good Samaritan gift to provide necessaries to the down-and-out. Most would probably be shocked to learn that the money donated to the Campaign for Human Development, or CHD, does not go for charity but for radical Obama-style community organizing.

Over the last 10 years, CHD has given 7.3 million Catholic-donated dollars to the Saul Alinsky-style group called ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). When in 1998 some Catholics complained that CHD grants were not used for Catholic charity but were actually funding groups opposed to church teachings, CHD changed its name to Catholic Campaign for Human Development, or CCHD.

The name change did not redirect the flow of money. In 2007 alone, CCHD increased its support of ACORN, giving it 37 grants totaling $1,037,000.

During 2007 and 2008, ACORN and its affiliated organizations were aggressively registering what it claimed were 1.3 million poor people. ACORN focused on new registrations in the key toss-up states of Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida.

You can listen on YouTube to clips from ACORN's national convention and decide for yourself how partisan it is.

CCHD knew how ACORN spent its money. CCHD's executive director, Ralph McCloud, admitted to Catholic News Service that "some of the funds that the Catholic Campaign contributed to ACORN in the past undoubtedly were used for voter registration drives."

Even though the pro-Obama political activity of ACORN had been widely reported, and employees of ACORN and affiliated organizations like Project Vote have been either indicted or convicted of submitting false voter registration forms in 14 states, in June 2008 CCHD approved grants of $1.13 million to 40 local ACORN affiliates for the cycle beginning July 1, 2008. Those grants were ratified by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops at its June 2008 meeting.

The CCHD-ACORN relationship suddenly became too embarrassing to ignore, and CCHD announced it was suspending (not canceling) the 2008 grants. But the reason given for suspension was not ACORN's partisan political activity or registration frauds; it was because Dale Rathke, the brother of ACORN founder Wade Rathke, had embezzled nearly $1 million from the organization and its affiliates back in 1999 and 2000.

CCHD also announced that it has formed a task force to ensure that church funds are spent according to the guidelines of the Bishops Conference's poverty-fighting program. Presumably, the previous millions of dollars given to ACORN were within the conference's guidelines.
Barack Obama knows the political value of ACORN. He gave $800,000 in campaign cash disguised as payments for "advance work" to an Alinsky front group called Citizen Services Inc.

Obama admits he got his start as a community organizer in Chicago, saying it was "the best education I ever had, better than anything I got at Harvard Law School." He tries to downplay his connection with ACORN, claiming he worked for churches, but he was trained by Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation and then spent years in the 1980s teaching the Alinsky method to others through several Alinsky offshoots such as Project Vote and Developing Communities Project in Chicago.

Saul Alinsky's son Lee David Alinsky felt compelled to remedy Obama's failure to give proper credit. In a letter to the Boston Globe in August after Obama's open-stadium rally in Denver, the younger Alinsky wrote: "Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday."

Saul Alinsky explained his community organizing tactics in his book "Rules for Radicals." His game plan was to divide the community into the Haves and the Have Nots, make the Have Nots believe they are unjustly treated by the Haves, build resentment against the American social and economic system, use church congregations to mobilize street agitators, and lobby government for higher taxes and big-spending welfare programs in order to confiscate the wealth and power of the Haves and turn it over to the Have Nots.

Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer, "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom."

Another Alinsky quote seems remarkably prophetic: "Ego must be so all-pervading that the personality of the organizer is contagious, that it converts the people from despair to defiance, creating a mass ego."


http://www.texasinsider.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=…

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LES "BÉDOINS D'OBAMA"

VIDÉO : http://www.infolive.tv/node/32604

GALILEE BEDOUINS SAY OBAMA IS ONE OF THEIRS

Barack Obama will be America's first black president, but according to a large Israeli Arab clan he will also be the first Bedouin president.

Leaders of the 8,000-strong Galilee-based Bedouin tribe claimed in an interview with The Times of London that Obama is a long-lost relative.

They noted that during the British Mandate period, Kenyan and other African migrant workers were brought to Palestine to work for Bedouins sheikhs. A 95-year-old member of the tribe who lived through the British Mandate period said one of those workers married a local Bedouin girl and then moved back to Kenya.

Tribe leaders said they have documented evidence proving that that Bedouin-Kenyan couple was a fore-bearer of Obama on his paternal grandmother's side. They were adamant, however, that the evidence must first be presented to Obama himself before being released to the media.

In the meantime, other Bedouin tribes in the area are accepting the claims on faith alone and are heaping congratulations, praise and honor on Obama's presumptive Galilee relatives.


http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=79

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KENYA: 'I DON'T KNOW' IF OBAMA BORN IN U.S.

Ambassador suggests question be put to American government

L'AMBASSADEUR DU KENYA SE RETROUVE DANS UNE POSITION FÂCHEUSE POUR AVOIR RÉVÉLÉ PUBLIQUEMENT QU'OBAMA ÉTAIT BIEN NÉ AU KENYA. NOUS VOYONS ICI, L'AMBASSADEUR OGEGO APPORTER UNE TOUTE AUTRE VERSION QUE CELLE QU'IL A FAIT DERNIÈREMENT.

SÛREMENT, MONSIEUR L'AMBASSADEUR A-T-IL REÇU UN PETIT COUP DE FIL SUITE À CETTE DÉCLARATION FRACASSANTE QUI NOUS A DONNÉ L'HEURE JUSTE SUR LA NATIONALITÉ D'OBAMA. KHADDAFI, LE PRÉSIDENT DE LA LIBYE L'A AUSSI DÉCLARÉ DEVANT LE PEUPLE ARABE. A-T-IL LUI AUSSI REÇU UN PETIT COUP DE FIL SUITE À SA DÉCLARATION?


Posted: November 26, 2008
9:44 pm Eastern
By Chelsea Schilling
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Ambassador Peter Ogego

Kenyan Ambassador Peter N.R.O. Ogego is saying he's "infuriated" by a radio program's efforts to "misquote" him on the subject of President-elect Barack Obama's birthplace – but he refused to confirm whether Obama was born in the United States.

In an exclusive interview with WND today, Ogego was specifically asked whether Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen.

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

He continued with a rhetorical question: "Obama is an American, isn't he?"

Sign the petition to insist on release of birth certificate.

On Nov. 6, only two days after the election, Detroit radio talk-show hosts Mike Clark, Trudi Daniels and Marc Fellhauer on WRIF's "Mike In The Morning" called the Embassy of Kenya in Washington, D.C., to speak with Ambassador Ogego.

Hear the Kenyan ambassador's interview with WRIF radio

The interview with the Kenyan ambassador was widely publicized after he called President-elect Barack Obama's Kenyan birthplace a "well-known" attraction:

Clark: "We want to congratulate you on Barack Obama, our new president, and you must be very proud."

Ogego: "We are. We are. We are also proud of the U.S. for having made history as well."

Fellhauer: "One more quick question, President-elect Obama's birthplace over in Kenya, is that going to be a national spot to go visit, where he was born?"

Ogego: "It's already an attraction. His paternal grandmother is still alive."

Fellhauer: "His birthplace, they'll put up a marker there?"

Ogego: "It would depend on the government. It's already well known."

Now Ogego is saying the hosts misquoted and edited the audio recording of his comments.

"I'm already infuriated by the whole thing," he said. "The radio itself had a cynicism to it. I didn't mind that, but to misquote me is unacceptable. They are circulating misinformation regarding Mr. Obama's birthplace."

However, WRIF's Mike Clark told WND the show never manipulated the audio recording in any way.

"I can assure you that nothing was edited or stated out of context," he said.

Nonetheless, Ogego insisted he was speaking about Barack Obama Sr., and not President-elect Obama.

"They asked me about Obama's father, not Obama," Ogego said. "This is common-sense knowledge. Nobody is fooling anybody."

But Clark said Ogego's claim that he was speaking about Barack Obama Sr. doesn't add up.

"If you listen to the call in its entirety, you will find it was very obvious we were all talking about President-elect Barack Obama and not his father," Clark said. "So, the idea that he thought we were talking about his father seems a little farfetched to me."

Clark said Ogego's statement that Obama's Kenyan birthplace was already an attraction caught them off guard.

"The point is, we expected him to say, 'No. Obama was not born in Kenya, but there is an attraction to honor his father.' I would have thought that would have been the answer if anything," he said.

The issue of Obama's place of birth has been heating up since WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth.

When asked if birth records for President-elect Obama exist in Kenya, Ogego replied, "I don't know about all that."

WND asked Ogego why Obama's birth records have been sealed.
"Let's not get into that," he replied. "We will not be dragged into unnecessary information. Somebody has a right to those details – the American government or the Kenyan government – if it is that important."

Ogego refused to discuss the matter further and ended the call.


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OBAMA WANTS TO INVOKE GOD DURING INAUGURATION OATH

updated 6:02 p.m. EST, Fri January 9, 2009

By Bill Mears
CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President-elect Barack Obama will invoke God when he takes the oath of office January 20, despite a lawsuit filed by atheist and non-religious groups, according to an attorney for Chief Justice John Roberts, who will administer the oath.


President-elect Barack Obama has asked to invoke the phrase "so help me God" at the end of his oath.

The groups have sued in federal court to block any mention of God during the inaugural ceremonies. Roberts was among those named in the suit.

However, Obama wishes to conclude the oath with the phrase "so help me God," Jeffrey Minear, an attorney and administrative assistant for Roberts, told a federal court in documents Friday.

The Constitution mandates the exact language to be used in the 35-word oath of office: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Some chief executives have embellished the oath with "so help me God." It is not constitutionally required, unlike in other federal oaths.

Historians have been at odds over whether George Washington established precedent by invoking the phrase on his own at the first inaugural in 1789. The Library of Congress Web site says he did. Most presidents have used the phrase.

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Lawsuit seeks to take 'so help me God' out of inaugural
Inaugural officials and presidents or presidents-elect usually coordinate behind the scenes on whether the judge or government official administering the phrase will invoke it.

Michael Newdow, supported by several groups including the American Humanist Association, claims in his lawsuit that "so help me God" violates the constitutional ban on government "endorsement" of religion. He asked a federal judge to intervene and block references of God or religion in the formal ceremonies.

The lawsuit also opposes the traditional invocation and benediction to be delivered by pastors invited by Obama.

"There can be no purpose for placing 'so help me God' in an oath or sponsoring prayers to God, other than promoting the particular point of view that God exists," according to the lawsuit.

The federal government revealed in its response that Obama wants to use the phrase. The declaration was apparently aimed at blunting Newdow's concession that Obama could add the phrase on his own but that Roberts or any government official should not force or prompt him to say it.

Among those named in the lawsuit besides the 53-year-old chief justice are the Presidential Inauguration Committee; the Joint Congressional Committee on Inauguration Ceremonies and its chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California); and the Armed Forces Inaugural Committee and its commander, Maj. Gen. Richard Rowe Jr.

Newdow said December 31 that he did not name Obama in his suit because in addition to participating as a government official in the ceremony, Obama possesses rights as an individual that allow him to express religious beliefs.

"If he chooses to ask for God's help, I'm not going to challenge him," Newdow said. "I think it's unwise."

A decision from the federal judge is expected in the next few days.

The high court ruled against Newdow in 2004 after he tried to block the Pledge of Allegiance from being recited at his daughter's Sacramento, California-area public school because it contains the phrase "under God."

He argued the case himself before the justices, making an impassioned plea that the teacher-led pledge forces religion on impressionable youngsters and carries the stamp of government approval.


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GMP SHARON E. WATKINS TO PREACH AT OBAMA'S INAUGURAL PRAYER SERVICE (1/11/09)



Disciples' General Minister and President Sharon E. WatkinsINDIANAPOLIS (1/11/09) — Disciples’ General Minister and President Sharon E. Watkins has been selected to deliver the sermon at President-elect Barack Obama’s national prayer service to be held at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C., the day after Obama is inaugurated President of the United States.

The Jan. 21 service is organized by the Presidential Inaugural Committee http://www.pic2009.org/pressroom/entry/reverend_dr._sharon_e._watkins_gener… and will be attended by the newly-inaugurated President and Vice-President, along with other religious and political leaders. Watkins is the first woman ever chosen to preach at this service. Linda Douglass, the chief spokeswoman for the inaugural committee told The New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/us/politics/11minister.html?_r=2&scp=… in an article published today that Watkins was chosen because “she delivers a message of unity and inclusivity and tolerance and hope — and those are all central themes we’ve heard from the president-elect.”

“I feel both honored and humbled,” Watkins told DisciplesWorld. “Regardless of one’s political leanings, all of America is celebrating this historic moment in our national history. The election of the first African American to the presidency opens the door of possibility in a new way to all of America’s children. To be able to be part of that is tremendous.”

Watkins added, “My participation in this service can also be a moment of high visibility for Disciples. Given Disciples’ core passion for wholeness, our vision of the healing of humanity through God’s love, I am pleased to have an opportunity for the nation to become acquainted with our mission and witness.”

Watkins has led the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) http://www.disciples.org/ since she was elected by the denomination’s General Assembly in July, 2005. Previously, she was pastor of Disciples Christian Church in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, served on the denomination’s General Board, and directed student services and church relations for Phillips Theological Seminary and Phillips University. Educated at Yale Divinity School and Phillips Theological Seminary, Watkins has spent the last three and a half years helping to renew and transform the denomination for mission in the twenty-first century.

Watkins was the first woman to be elected General Minister and President for Disciples and is only one of two women serving as head of communion among mainline U.S. Protestant churches today. Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori of The Episcopal Church, U.S.A. was elected by her denomination in 2006.

In her sermon, Watkins told DisciplesWorld, she hopes to urge the President and the nation “to listen to the best of who we are and to be guided and driven by the best hope of who we can be.” She also acknowledged the profound pastoral opportunity she has to speak to the many staff members starting new positions in Washington. “I can’t help but think of what this means for the families of people coming into their new roles.”

Watkins is a member of the World Council of Churches Central Committee http://www.oikoumene.org/ and serves on that organization’s Committee on Consensus and Collaboration, representing Disciples among the Council’s more than 240 member communions.

She also serves on the board of directors of Sojourners/Call to Renewal http://www.sojo.net/ , a progressive magazine and social justice action network prominent among Evangelicals and mainline churches. The organization hosted a conference in June, 2006 in Washington, D.C., at which then Senator Obama delivered what has become known as a landmark speech on the relationship between religion and public life.

Watkins, however, does not know Obama personally and has not served on any of his advisory teams. Instead, she said, “as a Senator, a candidate, and as President-elect, Barack Obama made it a policy to reach out to a wide variety of religious leaders, also inviting a number of mainline church leaders for conversation and discussion of issues. Mostly through his staff, I have had the opportunity to be in some of those conversations.”

The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) counts nearly 700,000 members in the United States and Canada in approximately 3,000 congregations. Disciples partner with the United Church of Christ http://www.ucc.org/ for overseas ministries through which they work with 270 partner churches and organizations in 70 countries around the world. Part of the free-church tradition, Disciples are governed by congregations who voluntarily join together regionally, nationally, and internationally to be the church in mission, worship, study, and to provide common witness on issues of the day.

Three former presidents of the United States have been connected to Disciples. Lyndon B. Johnson worshipped at National City Christian Church http://www.nationalcitycc.org/pages/page.asp?page_id=19735 while in office. Ronald Reagan was raised in Disciples congregations and attended a Disciples-related college, Eureka College http://www.eureka.edu/index.html in Eureka, Illinois. And James Garfield, the 20th president, was a Disciples minister from Ohio — the only clergy to later become president. He was assassinated in 1881, having only served a few months of his term.


http://www.disciplesworld.com/newsArticle.html?wsnID=14614

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OBAMA INAUGURATION: RICK WARREN TO DELIVER INVOCATION



LA PRÉSENCE DE DEUX REPRÉSENTANTS DU MOUVEMENT ÉVANGÉLIQUE À L'INAUGURATION DE BARACK OBAMA EST UNE RUSE BIEN PLANIFIÉE PAR LES JÉSUITES. CE STRATAGÈME A ÉTÉ DANS LE PASSÉ UTILISÉ POUR COUVRIR LE SECRET DE LEUR IMPLICATION. DES PASTEURS PROTESTANTS AVAIENT ÉTÉ DEMANDÉS POUR FAIRE LES PRIÈRES DE PERSONNES MENÉES À LA POTENCE AFIN DE CACHER L'IMPLICATION DE LA RELIGION CATHOLIQUE. AINSI LES POPULATIONS NE PURENT FAIRE DE RAPPROCHEMENT SUR LE CRIME PERPÉTRÉ PAR CETTE VASTE ORGANISATION CRIMINELLE.

À NOTRE ÉPOQUE, NOUS AVONS EU LE GRAND DIRIGEANT SPIRITUEL BILLY GRAHAM, QUI BIEN QU'IL SOIT UN SHRINER FRANC-MAÇON 33e DEGRÉ, DEVENIR PRESQU'UN PAPE POUR LE MOUVEMENT PROTESTANT. CET HOMME, ASSOCIÉ DE PRÈS AU CONSEIL OECUMÉNIQUE MONDIAL A, UN JOUR DÉCLARÉ QUE "MASONIC JOHN PAUL II WAS THE WORLD'S GREATEST MORAL LEADER." COMBIEN LES FORCES DE TÉNÈBRES DOIVENT-ELLES SE RÉJOUIR DE VOIR LE PEUPLE DE DIEU SE FAIRE AVOIR AINSI!

NOUS AVONS ICI, UN GANG DE PAPISTES DE DIFFÉRENTES RELIGIONS DÉGUISÉS EN PROTESTANT MAIS DONC UN, OBAMA EST UN MUSULMAN ET UN CFR, UN AUTRE, WARREN QUI SE DIT PROTESTANT MAIS QUI FAIT LA PROMOTION DU PEACE GLOBAL PLAN (ISLAMIC) ET AUSSI UN MEMBRE DU CFR, ET D'UNE FEMME WATKINS QUI EST LEADER DANS LE MOUVEMENT PROTESTANT MAIS QUI A UNE POSITION ÉLEVÉE AU NIVEAU DU CONSEIL MONDIAL DES ÉGLISES (CFR???, JE NE SAIS PAS). TOUTES SES PERSONNES TRAVAILLENT TOUS MAIN DANS LA MAIN AFIN D'AMENER CETTE UNITÉ FINALE SOUS LE POUVOIR DU VICAIRE DE ROME ET PROMOUVOIENT TOUS LES MÊMES VALEURS QUE LES NATIONS UNIES POUR UN MONDE DE PAIX.

NOUS ASSISTONS DONC ICI, AU MÊME GENRE DE MISE EN SCÈNE, QU'ILS ONT UTILISÉ AU COURS DES SIÈCLES POUR SÉDUIRE LES NATIONS AFIN DE FAIRE AVANCER LEUR AGENDA DE L'ÂGE DES TÉNÈBRES.


The Huffington Post | Rachel Weiner | December 17, 2008 02:07 PM

Pastor Rick Warren, who hosted a Saddleback Church Forum attended by both Barack Obama and John McCain, will deliver the invocation at Obama's inauguration.

David Brody of CBNNews adds:

Pro-life pastor Rick Warren will give the invocation at President-Elect Barack Obama's inauguration. It makes a whole lot of sense. Even though Warren and Obama disagree on the life issue, they do see eye to eye on many social justice issues. This move is also classic Obama because it is a signal to religious conservatives that he's willing to bring in both sides to the faith discussion in this country. Obama has never shied away from that.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/17/obama-inauguration-rick-w_n_151785…

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MUSLIM WOMAN, RABBIS TO PRAY AT INAUGURAL SERVICE

By RACHEL ZOLL

At past inaugurations, ceremonial prayers uttered on behalf of the incoming president drew about as much attention as the flags on the podium.

Not this year.

Barack Obama's choice of clergy is under scrutiny like no other president-elect before him, alternately outraging Americans on the left and the right as he navigates the minefield of U.S. religion.

"I can't recall any prayers drawing so much attention," said Charles Haynes, senior scholar at the First Amendment Center who specializes in religion in public life.

Gay advocates assailed Obama, while many conservative Christians were heartened, when he invited the Rev. Rick Warren, a Southern Baptist who opposes gay marriage, to deliver the inaugural invocation on Tuesday.

The tables turned when Obama asked V. Gene Robinson, the first openly gay Episcopal bishop, to lead prayers at Sunday's kickoff for the inauguration at the Lincoln Memorial. Gay rights groups rejoiced, while some conservative Christians wrung their hands.

The Inauguration Committee has only released one clergy name so far for the Jan. 21 National Prayer Service that caps the inauguration. The Rev. Sharon Watkins, the first woman president of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), a Protestant group, will deliver the sermon.

The Associated Press has learned additional details.

A prayer will be offered at the National Cathedral by Ingrid Mattson, the first woman president of the Islamic Society of North America, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information. The Islamic Society, based in Indiana, is the nation's largest Muslim group.

Three rabbis, representing the three major branches of American Judaism, will also say a prayer at the service, according to officials familiar with the plans. The Jewish clergy are Reform Rabbi David Saperstein, Conservative Rabbi Jerome Epstein and Orthodox Rabbi Haskel Lookstein, sources said.

It is also traditional for the incoming administration to ask the Roman Catholic archbishop of Washington to lead a prayer. The Most Rev. Donald Wuerl leads the archdiocese.

And like many incoming presidents before him, Obama will attend a service at St. John's Church, dubbed the "Church of the Presidents," before his swearing-in.

Religion has been a lightning rod for Obama since the presidential campaign — from false rumors that he is Muslim to uproar over sermons by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

And interest in the inauguration is higher overall, partly because of its historic nature, the swearing-in of the first African-American president. The Rev. Joseph Lowery, a Methodist considered the dean of the civil rights movement, will give the inaugural benediction.

But Obama's choice of clergy is also of greater interest because of the changing landscape of American religion.

The United States is more diverse than ever before, and members of minority faiths yearn to be recognized as fully American.

"In the past, minority groups within Christianity and minority religions on the American scene were not as vocal or as sure-footed and therefore didn't pay as much attention to the inauguration event itself or didn't feel the need to. That's no longer true," said Rabbi James Rudin, who spent three decades leading interreligious outreach for the American Jewish Committee.

Even atheists are newly energized, suing to prevent prayer and mention of God at the swearing-in.

An attorney for Chief Justice John Roberts, who will administer the oath, says the president-elect prefers to conclude with the phrase, "so help me God," as presidents before him have done.

Obama's preference was filed last week by Jeffrey Minear, an attorney and administrative assistant to Roberts, as part of a lawsuit by atheists and non-religious groups who sought for years to keep mention of God out of publicly administered oaths.

The Constitution mandates the exact language to be used in the oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Some presidents have added "so help me God."

Most past presidents only had to choose from clergy of the American Protestant establishment. Eventually, inaugural organizers added a priest or bishop to the ceremonies as the Catholic Church in the U.S. grew stronger. Rabbis were sometimes included.

But Protestants are now losing their majority status in the country. The go-to Protestant for inaugural prayer, evangelist Billy Graham, is 90 and off the public stage. No one has, or likely could, take his place as "America's pastor."

The Obama campaign is also partly responsible for the religious focus.

The Democrat spoke openly of his faith during the election, more so than his opponent, Republican Sen. John McCain, and reached out to believers, hoping to counter the perception that the GOP had cornered the market on God.

"This inaugural is a coming-out party for the Democrats in terms of their religious voice," said Stephen Prothero, a religion professor at Boston University. "Democrats found their religious voice in the last election and I think there's interest in seeing how that voice is going to sound."

Haynes said Obama is also carrying the hopes of the many Americans frustrated by the prominence of the Christian right in recent decades, especially in the administration of President George W. Bush. That partly explains the backlash against Warren, he said.

"The sense is it's time to balance that out and to have other voices heard. He's supposed to represent change," Haynes said. "There are many people looking for a symbolic change in tone, especially when it comes to issues of religion and public life."


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OBAMA CHANGED HIS VIEW ON GAY MARRIAGE

President-elect Barack Obama flip-flopped on the issue of gay marriage, according to a report published Wednesday in a Chicago newspaper.

FOXNews.com
Thursday, January 15, 2009

A 1996 questionnaire shows that Barack Obama changed his view on same-sex marriage, the Chicago media outlet Windy City Times reports.

The newspaper -- Chicago's oldest gay and lesbian publication -- posted a copy of the document on its Web site Wednesday, claiming that Obama stated his support for gay marriage in a questionnaire answered during the 1996 Illinois Senate race.

The questionnaire was distributed by the Outlines newspaper to all candidates seeking an elected office that year, the Web site reports.

The president-elect reportedly wrote on the survey that, "I favor legalizing same-sex marriage" -- a statement that runs contrary to Obama's stance during the presidential campaign, during which he expressed his opposition to gay marriage but support for civil unions.

During an Aug. 16 faith forum held by prominent evangelical Rev. Rick Warren, Obama defined marriage as "a union between a man and woman."

Obama told Warren that he did support same-sex civil unions, saying, "I can afford those civil rights to others even if I don't have...that view."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/15/report-obama-changed-view-gay-ma…

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OBAMA A COMMIS UNE ERREUR LORS DE SA PRESTATION DE SERMENT EN PUBLIC! IL A DU RECOMMENCER DURANT UNE CEREMONIE PRIVEE !

Chers amis,

Lors de la prestation de son serment, Obama, induit paraît-il en erreur par Robert Gates (de la défense), s'est trompé dans l'énonciation du serment, DEPLACANT LE MOT "FAITHFULLY" (FIDELEMENT) !!!

Un signe éloquent de plus... Obama risque donc de ne pas mener son mandat fidèlement comme un président le devrait !

Il a dû recommencer son serment en privé... Mais cela n'a pas la même valeur. Ce que le public aura entendu, lui, est le serment tronqué.

Suite de la débâcle américaine dans les jours qui viennent...

BONNE REVOLUTION, OU BON ESCLAVAGE ! Vic.

Source : http://fr.news.yahoo.com/2/20090122/twl-obama-a-prete-serment-pour-la-deuxi…

OBAMA A PRETE SERMENT POUR LA DEUXIEME FOIS

Il y a 1 heure 54 min

Barack Obama a pris la décision rarissime de prêter le serment de président une deuxième fois mercredi, après un cafouillage la veille lors de la première cérémonie d'investiture en public, a indiqué la Maison Blanche.Evènement

M. Obama a prononcé les mots solennels dans la Salle des cartes de la Maison Blanche en tout petit comité, alors que la prestation de serment de la veille s'était déroulée devant des centaines de milliers de spectateurs et sous les yeux du monde entier.

Mais l'événement historique ne s'était pas déroulé totalement comme prévu puisque M. Obama avait été induit en erreur par le président de la Cour suprême John Roberts qui avait récité dans le désordre le texte solennel prévu par la Constitution.

La Maison Blanche pense néanmoins que la prestation de serment de mardi était valable, a indiqué le responsable de la Maison Blanche pour les affaires juridiques, Greg Craig. "Mais le serment est inscrit dans la Constitution elle-même. Par souci de précaution, parce qu'un mot a été déplacé, le président de la Cour suprême John Roberts a procédé à la prestation de serment une deuxième fois", a-t-il dit.

"Nous avons décidé de recommencer parce que c'était tellement amusant", a plaisanté M. Obama, en attendant sur un canapé de prononcer à nouveau le serment.

"Etes-vous prêt à prêter serment", lui a demandé le juge Roberts après avoir passé sa robe noire.

"Je suis prêt, nous allons faire ça très lentement", a répondu M. Obama continuant à blaguer.

"Moi, Barack Hussein Obama, je jure solennellement de remplir fidèlement les fonctions de président des États-Unis, et, dans toute la mesure de mes moyens, de sauvegarder, protéger et défendre la Constitution des États-Unis", a alors déclamé M. Obama.

L'affaire a pris une trentaine de secondes.

"Félicitations, une nouvelle fois", a dit le juge Roberts.

Les choses s'étaient moins bien passées la veille. M. Obama avait là aussi répété après M. Roberts, mais un moment de gêne était apparu quand M. Obama s'était rendu compte que M. Roberts avait placé le mot "fidèlement" après "président des Etats-Unis", et non pas avant comme écrit dans la loi fondamentale. M. Obama s'était interrompu, avant que M. Roberts ne répète le morceau de phrase, à nouveau dans le désordre. M. Obama avait obtempéré et fini son serment tel qu'il l'avait entendu.

Selon des experts de la loi, la seconde prestation de serment relevait bien d'un luxe de précaution. Ils disent qu'en vertu du 20e amendement de la Constitution, le mandat du président expire le 20 janvier à midi, et que c'est à ce moment-là que le vainqueur de la présidentielle prend sa succession. Ainsi, au moment où il prononçait le serment mardi, peu après midi, M. Obama était déjà le 44ème président des Etats-Unis.

Jeffrey Rosen, un spécialiste de la Constitution, fait observer que cette gaffe n'était pas la première.

Le président de la Cour suprême William Howard Taft, qui avait été lui-même président de 1909 à 1913, avait quasiment réinventé le texte quand il avait fait prêter serment à Herbert Hoover en 1929, dit M. Rosen. Au lieu de dire "sauvegarder, protéger et défendre", M. Taft avait dit "sauvegarder, maintenir et défendre".


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OBAMA : SON SECOND SERMENT A ETE EFFECTUE... SANS LA BIBLE !!!

Chers amis,

L'article ci-dessous (que j'ai laissé en anglais) nous signale que lors de la prestation de son second serment suite à son cafouillage durant le 1er serment, Obama a prononcé le serment correctement. Le seul petit hic, cette fois-ci, c'est que cela s'est fait SANS PRETER LE SERMENT SUR LA BIBLE !

[s]Dieu est une fois encore le grand oublié dans cette affaire
! Et une nation sans Dieu est une nation stérile et maudite...

Mais fallait-il vraiment s'étonner que Barack Hussein Obama, musulman de coeur et d'esprit, "oublie" le Dieu des chrétiens ?

Il paraît que c'est Obama qui a demandé à reprêter serment, craignant que les "conspirationnistes" dénoncent un serment mal prononcé et qui dénotait de la mauvaise foi de sa part (tiens ! En voilà un qui craint les conspirationnistes ? Je suppose donc que nous allons voir de la répression apparaître bientôt à ce niveau !?). Obama s'est alors hâté de reprononcer son serment.... mais sans la Bible, cette fois ! Les "conspirationnistes" n'ont donc pas fini de dénoncer ce sinistre individu !

Il paraît que tous ces "braves" gens n'ont pas été capables de trouver une Bible dans la salle des cartes de la Maison Blanche... Comme quoi, les présidents de la Maison Blanche sont vraiment tous de très bons "chrétiens", et très concernés par la Bible !

On remarquera aussi que si Obama souhaite un retrait des troupes américaines en Iraq, celles-ciu viendront en renfort en Afghanistan ! Les conflits impérialistes vont donc hélas continuer, comme nous l'avions signalé !

L'artice, ci-dessous...

BONNE REVOLUTION... OU BON ESCLAVAGE ! Vic.


P.S. : après tout ceci, nous allons voir dans les prochains articles que je posterai à ce sujet quels sont les premiers ACTES HONTEUX pris par Obama en tant que président... ne ratez donc pas la suite !

Source : http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090122/twl-double-take-obama-sworn-in-again-3f…

DOUBLE TAKE: OBAMA SWORN-IN AGAIN

Yesterday, 03:35 pm

Barack Obama has taken the oath of office for a second time after stumbling over the words when originally sworn-in as president.

In a highly unusual move, the new leader took the oath in the Map Room of the White House, the day after his inauguration as the nation's first African-American president.

Chief Justice John Roberts, who first administered the oath on Tuesday on the steps of the US Capitol, again performed the ceremony.

But this time in front of only a handful of staff and journalists - and with no bible.

"We believe that the oath of office was administered effectively and that the President was sworn inappropriately (on Tuesday)," said White House legal adviser Greg Craig.

"But the oath appears in the Constitution itself.

"And out of an abundance of caution, because there was one word out of sequence, Chief Justice Roberts administered the oath a second time."

The reporters present said Mr Obama was sitting on a couch and joked: "We decided it was so much fun..."

He then stood and walked over to make small talk with the journalists as Justice Roberts donned his black robes.

"Are you ready to take the oath?" Justice Roberts asked.

"I am, and we're going to do it very slowly," Mr Obama replied.

After a flawless recitation, which took 25 seconds, Justice Roberts smiled and said: "Congratulations - again."

One reporter, Wes Allison, of the St Petersburg Times, told Sky News: "We didn't know it was going to happen so we were a little shocked.

"It was just a technicality - just to be safe - to be sure it was delivered correctly.

"There was no Bible - just a plain ceremony. Justice Roberts in a plain black robe and Obama in a suit.

"No family was there - just seven staffers and four reporters."

Sky's Foreign Affairs editor Tim Marshallsaid: "He is concerned about conspiracy rumours that he purposefully didn't take the oath properly because of his nationality and his religion will start circulating.

"So, due to an abundance of caution, he just wants to nail that and get it right."

He added: "The problem is, the second time he did it they couldn't find a bible in the Map Room, which is not technically necessary but the conspiracy theorists will make something of that."

At the end of his first day in the Oval Office, the President announced he had asked military commanders to draw up plans for a "responsible" withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

Mr Obama, who opposed the Iraq war, has said he wants to redeploy thousands of combat troops from the country to Afghanistan.

Despite an amazing turnout for his inauguration, the US TV audience was actually less than for former actor Ronald Reagan.

Almost 37.8 million people watched Tuesday's ceremony and celebrations in their own homes, while the Reagan event in 1981 attracted 41.8 million.


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VU SUR LE FORUM DE BARACK OBAMA

LOIS RELATIVES AUX MOEURS

"L'ÉTERNEL PARLA À MOÏSE, ET DIT : PARLE AUX ENFANTS D'ISRAËL, ET TU LEUR DIRAS : JE SUIS L'ÉTENEL, VOTRE DIEU. VOUS NE FEREZ POINT CE QUI SE FAIT DANS LE PAYS D'ÉGYPTE OÙ VOUS AVEZ HABITÉ, ET VOUS NE FEREZ POINT CE QUI SE FAIT DANS LE PAYS DE CANAAN OÙ JE VOUS MÈNE : VOUS NE SUIVREZ POINT LEURS USAGES. VOUS PRATIQUEREZ MES ORDONNANCES, ET VOUS OBSERVEREZ MES LOIS : VOUS LES SUIVREZ. JE SUIS L'ÉTERNEL, VOTRE DIEU. VOUS OBSERVEREZ MES LOIS ET MES ORDONNANCES : L'HOMME QUI LES METTRA EN PRATIQUE VIVRA PAR ELLES. JE SUIS L'ÉTERNEL." LÉVITIQUE 18:1-5
APRÈS AVOIR VU LE PRÉSIDENT BARACK OBAMA PRENDRE OUVERTEMENT POSITION SUR L'HOMOSEXUALITÉ ET SUR L'AVORTEMENT, NOUS TROUVONS SUR LE FORUM DE BARACK OBAMA, UNE AUTRE PERVERSION QUE PRATIQUAIT LES NÉPHILIMS DE L'ÉGYPTE ET DE CANAAN. CES PRATIQUES SONT CLAIREMENT CONDAMNÉES PAR DIEU CAR ELLES SOUILLENT L'ÂME ET L'ESPRIT DE L'HOMME.

VOUS AVEZ DU VERSET AU VERSET 30, TOUTES LES LOIS QUE YAHWÉ A DONNÉ AUX HOMMES CONCERNANT LES BONNES MOEURS. PRENEZ LE TEMPS D'ALLER LIRE. QUE LE PRÉSIDENT DES ÉTATS-UNIS PERMETTE DE TELLES IMAGES SUBJECTIVES SUR UN SITE GOUVERNEMENTAL, CELA NOUS DÉMONTRE QU'IL EMBRASSE LES MÊMES PENSÉES QUE LES RACES DAMNÉES QUE DIEU A PROMIS DE DÉTRUIRE UN JOUR.




http://theobamaforum.com/showthread.php?t=1779&page=17

ET QU'ON NE VIENNE PAS ME DIRE QUE CES ANNONCES ARRIVENT LÀ COMME PAR HASARD. PAS SUR UN SITE COMME CELUI-LÀ.


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NOTRE DAME, OBAMA AND THE CATHOLIC BRAND

How Honoring the President Could Weaken the Catholic Voice

By Helen M. Alvaré

WASHINGTON, D.C., APRIL 9, 2009 (Zenit.org).- Supporters of Notre Dame University's decision to honor Barack Obama at its commencement employ elevated and even aspirational language in their attempt to characterize the meaning of the event. They invoke the language of "engagement" and "common ground" and "dialogue." But no matter their intentions or even their hopes, the very contents and structures of their argumentation ultimately denigrate the Catholic "brand" of speaking in the public square.

This "brand" involves relying upon empirically supportable assertions and rational argumentation, and respecting one's listeners. But the arguments deployed by supporters of Notre Dame's decision do not exhibit these qualities. If Catholics are persuaded to adopt or accept them, our "brand" will be diluted and the Church will be a less effective advocate on all issues and in every arena where it operates. This should concern all Catholics who toil in public arenas -- before legal bodies, academic critics, the media, or the public generally -- no matter what issues are on the table.

Cast in their best light, the arguments made by supporters of Notre Dame's decision to offer Barack Obama an honorary Doctor of Laws degree are as follows (most are drawn from the interview given by Notre Dame's president, Father John Jenkins, to the campus newspaper): first, Notre Dame commencements have regularly been visited by presidents of both political parties. This obviously confers prestige upon Notre Dame in the eyes of some. As Father Jenkins expresses it, the president "honors" the university by his willingness to come to campus. Also, according to Father Jenkins, the president deserves to be honored because he is an "inspiring leader" who is addressing our nation's present challenges with "intelligence, courage and honesty." He also deserves to be honored as the first African American president who, by his race and his words, merits the title of "healer" of historic racial wounds.

Finally, according to Father Jenkins, it is precisely "because" Notre Dame "care[s] so much about the "critical issue of the protection of life" that "we invited" President Obama. Honoring him could be the "basis of an engagement" with Obama, a "catalyst for dialogue," and the occasion of future opportunities "to persuade" him or, if not to persuade, at least to show respect for" and "listen to" Obama. Conversely, Jenkins seems to claim that failing to invite and honor people like Barack Obama would be to "shun" them. This would harm efforts at persuasion.

There is another argument one could make in favor of inviting President Obama to the Notre Dame campus, which is likely in the minds of some Catholics, and is likely more persuasive than those arguments put forward by Father Jenkins. It might even do a better job of preserving the Catholic Church's reputation for speaking truthfully about controvertible matters in a pluralistic environment. It is this: President Obama talks often about things that the Catholic Church has long cared about: more widely available health care, the end of nuclear threats, a cleaner environment, and more help for the working poor. It is not surprising that some people, Catholics included, who have long toiled on these issues, should be happy to hear a U.S. president take up these causes as his own, even if there is no guarantee that any of his particular approaches will work. But such an argument is still not up to the task of justifying the bestowal of an honor upon President Obama. This is because there has never been a U.S. president -- or any nationally known politician for that matter -- whose personal opinions and actions regarding unborn and newborn life have been so literally "inhumane," so remorseless and even so irrational. To persons already holding the pro-life view, there is little need to rehearse these opinions and actions, but others will want to know to what I am referring here. An abbreviated summary will have to do.

During his time in the Illinois legislature, Barack Obama acted personally to ensure that that legislature would not pass a law banning the killing of disabled newborn children, born alive following botched abortions. In connection with his tenure as a U.S. Senator, he distributed fundraising circulars to raise money on the grounds of his support for continuing the practice of partial-birth abortions (a technique involving partially delivering live infants outside the bodies of their mothers, save for their heads, which are then stabbed and suctioned, before being fully delivered, now dead). As a candidate for president, he promised that one of his first legislative acts would be the passage of a law (the Freedom of Choice Act) to remove all existing regulations from the practice of abortion in the United States. On the anniversary of Roe v. Wade, and as against the tens of thousands of pro-life marchers gathered in the January cold of Washington, D.C., he issued a public statement supporting the decision that overturned every state's decision to shield the unborn from being killed. He later issued several executive orders releasing hundreds of millions of federal dollars for abortion groups operating overseas, and for researchers killing human embryos. In the context of the latter order, he both excoriated defenders of embryonic life as ideological and political versus "scientific," and claimed the mantle of morality, and scientific purity for himself. He also claimed support for his decision based upon a national "consensus" and his "faith," but failed to give evidence of the former claim, or to confront the facial irrationality of the latter claim. Despite excoriating his opponents as anti-scientific, he himself refused to acknowledge the scientific data confirming the humanity of the embryo, or the emerging scientific consensus that adult stem cells offer a superior therapeutic and moral alternative to embryonic stem cells. President Obama furthermore is readying the federal government to strip conscience protections from doctors and hospitals morally opposed to performing abortions. And he has literally filled the White House and powerful federal agencies with lawyers from the nation's foremost extremist abortion-advocacy groups, the groups that have bitterly opposed every effort of the Catholic Church, both here and overseas, to protect the lives of the unborn and their mothers from abortion.

Believe it or not, the list actually goes on. But enough has been said to help even those who might initially defend Obama's appearance at Notre Dame to understand its significance. As indicated above, however, I am not criticizing Notre Dame, or Father Jenkins' remarks in particular, simply for failing to comprehend the enormity of the threat President Obama poses to respect for vulnerable human life. I am not simply lamenting Notre Dame's willingness to trample upon the sensibilities of hundreds of thousands of ordinary Catholics who have worked nearly four decades in support of human life, or even the willingness to exacerbate a kind of "class divide" between actively pro-life Catholics and the intellectual class of Catholics who attend and run prestigious universities. I am, most of all, writing to caution those who, speaking as Catholics, would deploy irrational and condescending arguments in the public square on any issue. For the stature of Catholics in the public square is fragile at best, despite the brilliance of our best-known public intellectuals such as Professor Robbie George of Princeton or Mary Ann Glendon of Harvard. Our stances on sexual morality, on respect for life, and on marriage, are increasingly out of favor with elites. The effects of the sex-abuse crisis in the Church linger. Our enormous contributions in the health care, charitable and educational arenas are underreported. If we are to continue to be welcomed at the table where public policies are debated and crafted, we cannot appear to have "descended" below our usual "brand" of argumentation. Reason and truth make up this brand.

But the arguments deployed by defenders of Obama's visit to Notre Dame betray the brand. Commencement ceremonies and the granting of honorary doctorates are not occasions for persuasion, dialogue and engagement on controvertible issues, as Father Jenkins claims. Having received honorary doctorates at several universities (and even though I am infinitely lower on the food chain than the President of the United States) I can tell you that they are nothing but occasions for fulsome praise, protocol and pleasant conversation. The "message" received by all -- the one honored and all of the onlookers -- is that the honoree somehow embodies the values of the institution granting the degree, and the aspirations of the graduates. This is common knowledge.

As for Father Jenkins' statement that Notre Dame honors Obama precisely "because" Notre Dame cares so much about "the critical issue of the protection of life" -- this statement hardly merits commentary. It is worthy of a desperate politician or an advertising agency, but not a Catholic institution that cares to represent itself to listeners as reliably truthful and rational. The message actually sent by Notre Dame's honoring President Obama, is that the decision makers at Notre Dame -- and perhaps the many Catholics they represent -- do not believe that the right of vulnerable persons not to be killed is as important an issue as centuries of Catholic teaching have made it out to be. The further message is that Catholic sources are willing to use irrational and condescending argumentation, if that's what it takes to preserve our own interests or to prevent "embarrassment" in a difficult situation.

All Catholics who wish to be welcomed into public debates on any issue in the future -- not just abortion -- ought to be dismayed at how Notre Dame's attempted justification of the Obama invitation has denigrated our reputation, our "brand" for speaking truthfully and rationally, even to power.

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Helen Alvaré is a senior fellow in law for the Culture of Life Foundation, and an associate professor of law at the George Mason University School of Law in Arlington, Virginia. In 2008, Benedict XVI named Professor Alvaré a consultor to the Pontifical Council for the Laity. ZENIT


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OBAMA DISTANCES AMERICA FROM CHRISTIANITY

Thursday, 09 April 2009 22:24

During President Obama’s recent trip across Europe, he grossly misrepresented America by denying that America is a Christian nation. He said this in spite of our Christian founding principles, history, and the fact that the overwhelming majority of American citizens have always been and are Christian.

In a speech given in Turkey, President Obama said "Although...we have a large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation, or a Jewish nation, or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."

Obama’s point was that the war on terrorism was not a war of Christianity versus Islam. But to say America is not a Christian nation appears to be an attempt to bring the United States into a European type, post-Christian, secular era.

Throughout the history of the United States, it has been repeatedly called a Christian nation by many of our Presidents and founders. Perhaps Obama did not learn this during history courses at school because he was attending a Muslim Madrassah in Indonesia! Apparently, during his recent campaign tour, Obama did not realize that America is landscaped with historic Christian churches in spite of that fact that he went to Harvard, a school founded by Christians.

The overwhelming majority of citizens in America self-identify as Christians, some 80%. As we reported earlier this week, fully one third of Americans consider themselves to be “born again” Christians. This number is on the rise. If you add all the numbers of people who claim they have had a life changing experience with Jesus Christ, believe the Bible is the Word of God and have tried to share their faith with someone the last year, the number jumps to almost 50%. American Christianity, unlike the dead state churches in Europe, is very much alive and very vital.

Stubborn Facts

And if that is not convincing, history is a great indicator of our nation’s Christian foundation. The Founders themselves were 90 to 95% Christians while the general population was 98% Christian. Obama may be entitled to his opinions, but he is not entitled to his facts.

Our Founders based their notions of liberty under God on the great Christian legal minds that had gone before them: Calvin, Knox, Rutherford, Locke, Montesquieu, etc. The Bible is the single most quoted book in all our founding documents.

The sixth President of the United States and son of the second President, John Quincy Adams said, "The highest glory of the American Revolution was, it connected in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." He was a little closer to the facts than the 45th President Obama.

President James Madison wrote, “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God” (Madison, 1785).

John Adams said “Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure, than they have it now, they may change their Rulers and the forms of Government but they will not obtain a lasting liberty” (Adams, June 21, 1776).

Another signer, Samuel Huntington, who would also go on to be the President of Congress, and the Governor of Connecticut, had similar sentiments in regards to Christianity and the nation. “It becomes a people publicly to acknowledge the over-ruling hand of Divine Providence and their dependence upon the Supreme Being as their Creator and Merciful Preserver . . . and with becoming humility and sincere repentance to supplicate the pardon that we may obtain forgiveness through the merits and mediation of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ” (Huntington, A Proclamation for a Day of Fasting, Prayer and Humiliation).

John Witherspoon wrote of the importance of Christianity to the American society, writing “[H]e is the best friend to American liberty who is the most sincere and active in promoting true and undefiled religion, and who sets himself with the greatest firmness to bear down profanity and immorality of every kind. Whoever is an avowed enemy of God, I scruple not to call him an enemy to his country” (Witherspoon, The Works of the Reverend John Witherspoon, 42).

The Supreme Court has ruled that we are a Christian nation. The Supreme Court thoroughly studied this issue, and in 1892 gave what is known as the Trinity Decision. In that decision the Supreme Court declared, "this is a Christian nation."

The whole purpose of the founding of the American colonies was so that the citizens could escape religious persecution and serve God according to the dictates of their own Christian conscience.

If we are not a Christian nation, then why are there emblazoned over the Speaker of the House in the US Capitol the words "In God We Trust?” Why does the Supreme Court building built in the 1930's have carvings of Moses and the Ten Commandments? Why do they begin each season with a prayer: “God save the United States and this honorable court?”

God is mentioned in stone all over Washington D.C. on its monuments and buildings. As a nation, we have celebrated Christmas to commemorate the Savior's birth for centuries. Oaths in our courtrooms have invoked God from the beginning.

Perhaps Obama forgot his recent inauguration. Prayers were offered and he was sworn in on the Bible, saying the words, "So help me God." Our national pledge mentions God. The Liberty Bell has a Bible verse engraved on it. The original constitution of all 50 states mentions God. Chaplains have been in the public payroll from the very beginning. Our nation’s birth certificate, the Declaration of Independence, mentions God four times. The Bible was used as a textbook in the schools.

President Obama has his history wrong. He may be guilty of pandering to anti-Christian secular Europeans and Muslims or perhaps he is just paying back the radical secularists in America who supported him by advancing the secularist’s agenda.

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For a fact sheet with more quotes and information that shows America is a Christian nation, click here http://christianadc.org/news-and-articles/292-fact-sheet-americas-christian… .


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