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MessagePosté le: Mer 12 Juil - 23:55 (2017)    Sujet du message: SHOCKING : SDA CHURCHES ACCEPT YOGA CHALLENGE, HOLD CLASSES, PROMOTE YOGA BOOKS Répondre en citant

SHOCKING : SDA CHURCHES ACCEPT YOGA CHALLENGE, HOLD CLASSES, PROMOTE YOGA BOOKS



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MessagePosté le: Dim 6 Aoû - 09:43 (2017)    Sujet du message: UPDATED TO Youtube – DOMINIONIST DECEPTION, PART 1 – NEWS FROM THE WALL WITH NATHAN & DONNA LEAL / THE RISE OF THE CHRISTIAN TALIBAN – DOMINIONIST DECEPTION PART 2 Répondre en citant

UPDATED TO Youtube – DOMINIONIST DECEPTION, PART 1 – NEWS FROM THE WALL WITH NATHAN & DONNA LEAL 

July 18, 2017



UPDATE – This message is now on YouTube. Link is below. News from the Wall with Nathan & Donna Leal Dominionist Deception and the Rise of the Beast – Part 1
 
An audio report with Nathan and Donna Leal
 
There is a takeover of the Church right now. A great deception has slithered in and it is going to play a role in end time prophecy. It is called “Dominionism” and it is going to lead America into World War Three.

In this program, Nathan And Donna Leal discuss this end time intruder that has invaded the Church.
The Bible tells us that the deception will look like a lamb, but speak like a dragon. This program is very important, and should be heard by all vigilant Christians. Please share it with your friends and family.

In His Service, Nathan Leal



VIDEO PART 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS_VZP9aNlo

http://watchmanscry.com/?p=6945


THE RISE OF THE CHRISTIAN TALIBAN – DOMINIONIST DECEPTION  PART 2

August 6, 2017



News from the Wall with Nathan & Donna Leal The Rise of the Christian Taliban – Dominionist Deception Part 2  

An audio report with Nathan and Donna Leal

It is a heresy that is taking over many churches, and is a movement that desires war, bloodshed, and death. It is called Dominion theology and it is IN YOUR FACE.

Unfortunately, most Christians cannot see it, or realize what it is. They also do not realize how it is poisoning the church. The movement is dangerous, and is promoting false prophecies about a coming crusade where CHOSEN ONES will be called to slaughter and butcher the enemies of God and Christians who are against them. Dominion theology is heresy, it is unscriptural, unbiblical, and in some of the camps, involves sorcery, witchcraft, and New Age mysticism. It is a last days deception that has also invaded the U.S. Government and the Pentagon. In this audio program, Nathan and Donna Leal visit part two of the series that exposes dominionism. It is vital that all of God’s people become familiar with this information. Please share it with your friends and family. In His service, Nathan Leal

VIDEO PART 2 : http://watchmanscry.com/audio/news_taliban_080517.mp3

http://watchmanscry.com/?p=6963


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MessagePosté le: Lun 7 Aoû - 11:35 (2017)    Sujet du message: IS YOGA COMMUNING WITH DEVIL? Répondre en citant



IS YOGA COMMUNING WITH DEVIL?

 Father Kenneth Doyle Wednesday, August 2, 2017

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The real issue lies in what these techniques are designed to accomplish -- what they are supposed to connect you to -- and herein lies the difficulty with certain forms of yoga...




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Q. My wife was recently at a gathering of her prayer group that meets every week. At the end of this particular meeting, a deacon spoke to the group and said something that has disturbed both of us. He said that when you practice yoga, you are communicating with the devil.

Neither of us practices yoga, but our daughter -- who is in her 30s -- does. She has even gone on yoga retreats. I always thought that yoga was just a form of meditation.

Should we be concerned, and is there any church teaching on the matter? (New Brunswick, New Jersey)

A. The issue is a bit complex and has been the subject of a fair amount of controversy. Classic yoga is a discipline that grew out of Hindu mysticism; it seeks enlightenment through a series of exercises designed to align the body, mind and spirit. = Spiritual dark energies and possess by demons who take control of  body, mind and spritual to become like one of them.

Simply because it has its origin outside the Christian tradition, this doesn't necessarily mean that it conflicts with Catholic teaching.

The Vatican pointed this out in a 1989 document from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith called "Some Aspects of Christian Mediation," stating: "Genuine practices of meditation that come from the Christian East and from the great non-Christian religions, which prove attractive to the man of today who is divided and disoriented, (can) constitute a suitable means of helping the person who prays to come before God with an interior peace" (No.28).

The bodily postures assumed during yoga as well as the breathing techniques are themselves morally neutral. (Catholic institutions -- including Chicago's Holy Name Cathedral -- have at times sponsored classes in "Catholic yoga.")

The real issue lies in what these techniques are designed to accomplish -- what they are supposed to connect you to -- and herein lies the difficulty with certain forms of yoga: They assume a basic pantheism, the goal being for the person to become "one with the divine." = This is not lies, it's reality.

(A classic yoga mantra that the user is encouraged to repeat, is "So'ham" -- which can be translated "I am the universal self." That is a far cry from orthodox Christian theology, which holds that we humans are created beings and the triune God is not).

It is sometimes heard that Pope Francis, in a January 2015 homily, dismissed yoga, saying that such practices as yoga and Zen meditation cannot free people to open their hearts to the Lord; but to be fair, the pope said the same of church teaching and Catholic spirituality, noting that only the Holy Spirit can "move the heart" and make it "docile to the Lord." = Yeah, the same lies of the Catholic gnostic church associated with O.T.O. Always the black and white chess-board.

I have no idea what particular type of yoga your daughter is involved with, so the safest course might be for her to discuss this with a knowledgeable priest.

Q. I have been attending the same parish church for 25 years. My three children were baptized in this church, had their first reconciliation and first Communion there, and two of them were confirmed in this same parish church. I myself have taught Christian formation classes there for a number of years.

I have been married for 18 years, but a year ago my husband abandoned me and our children. Four months ago, I found out that he has been having an affair and has been living with the office manager of our parish.

Since then, I have not been able to return to this church without feeling deep shame. I have been searching for ways to move past this, but I find it difficult.

I know, too, that the sacrament of marriage is a serious matter, but how do I stay with a man who doesn't want me and wants a divorce? I fear that I am letting down my God; I feel such pain no matter what parish I attend.

I feel lost, pray for guidance and seek some closure. Can you help me understand how the church looks upon my situation? (City of origin withheld)

A. First of all, you are not letting God down and have no need to feel guilt or shame. If your husband does not want to be married to you any longer and insists on a divorce, you have no choice but to let that happen.

(Have you tried making one last-ditch effort -- telling him that you know what's been going on but are prepared to forgive, that you are willing to go with him to a counselor to try to put your marriage back together?)

Sometimes a marriage can come apart even when one spouse is virtually without fault; the church recognizes this, and there is no need to keep beating yourself up.

As for which parish church to attend, I would guess that it's going to be a long time before you'll feel comfortable in your home parish, with all the memories that it holds. Why not continue to shop around for a different Catholic parish where you might feel more at peace?

And finally, your pastor deserves to know of your suspicions about his parish manager, so that he can make a judgment as to whether that person is a suitable representative of the parish.

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Questions may be sent to Father Kenneth Doyle at askfatherdoyle@gmail.com and 30 Columbia Circle Dr., Albany, New York 12203.

Father Kenneth Doyle is a columnist for Catholic News Service

http://www.thebostonpilot.com/opinion/article.asp?ID=179936


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MessagePosté le: Jeu 14 Sep - 01:24 (2017)    Sujet du message: LETTER TO THE EDITOR : HUSBAND BROUGHT HOME THIS CONTEMPLATIVE BOOK FROM CONFERENCE – “THE SPIRITUAL FORMATION OF LEADERS Répondre en citant

LETTER TO THE EDITOR : HUSBAND BROUGHT HOME THIS CONTEMPLATIVE BOOK FROM CONFERENCE – “THE SPIRITUAL FORMATION OF LEADERS




Dear Lighthouse Trails,

I want to thank you again and possibly alert you on another author you should watch. Recently, my husband went to a pastor’s conference and brought a book back home titled The Spiritual Formation of Leaders by Chuck Miller, Ed. D.

Immediately I saw the title, the bells went of in my head, and sure enough, going through it, it has quotes from Brennan Manning’s Ragamuffin Gospel, Henri Nouwen, Thomas Merton et. al. Looking through also, the author talks of a soul room, listening to God speak to you from all around you. Chapter 7 is titled “What exactly happens in the Soul Room? – Leadership: Moving from Management to Mystery.

I must say, immediately I saw the book’s title, I became uncomfortable. These books look so good, so endearing and people are genuinely seeking how they can grow in Christ. If not for Lighthouse, I may not have known the treacherous path we would have been walking. As for me, since 2011, I have decided it’s Sola Scriptura. Away with especially new “Christian” books.

Thank you Lighthouse, and God bless you.

T. U.

LTRP Note: In addition to Brennan Manning, Henri Nouwen, and Thomas Merton, The Spiritual Formation of Leaders also contains quotes by and references to numerous other contemplative/emergent figures: New Age sympathizers Steven Covey and Parker Palmer, contemplatives John Ortberg, John Eldredge, Dallas Willard, Richard Foster, as well as emergents N.T. Wright, Robert Webber, Klaus Issler, and Eugene Peterson.

One of the books that Chuck Miller quotes from is Richard Foster’s Meditative Prayer. Here are a few quotes from that book to help illustrate our concerns about using the writings of contemplative authors:
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“We will discover how the imagination can aid us in our task and consider the three major steps into meditative prayer.” (p. 3)
“In the fullness of time Jesus came and taught the reality of the kingdom of God and demonstrated what life could be like in that kingdom. He showed us God’s yearning for the gathering of an all-inclusive community of loving persons with himself as its prime sustainer and most glorious inhabitant.” (emphasis added, p. 5)
“To pray is to descend with the mind into the heart.” (quoting Russian mystic Theophan the Recluse, p. 7)
“I am because HE IS.” (p. 20)
“[A] third step in meditative prayer, which is the prayer of listening.” (p. 21)



Quoting from numerous mystics and panentheists, Foster says, “The great masters [mystics] of the interior life [meditative life] are overwhelmingly uniform in their witness to this reality [“an inward attentiveness to the divine Whisper”  p. 22].” (p. 22)

To describe meditative prayer, Foster uses words such as “spiritual space,” “inner sanctuary,” “Eucharistic feast,” “centering down,” “re-collection,” “divine breathings,” “rhythm of the Spirit,” “prayer of quiet,” “divine Center,” “spiritual ecstasy.


http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletters/2017/newsletter20170912…


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MessagePosté le: Sam 23 Sep - 16:55 (2017)    Sujet du message: YOGA CHAPEL? Répondre en citant

YOGA CHAPEL?

September 18, 2017



Recently Duke Chapel at Duke University in North Carolina tweeted photos of yoga exercises on the floor of its majestic worship space as part of Healthy Duke Week of Wellness. Built in the 1930s as a Methodist sanctuary in the style of a Gothic cathedral for what was then a Methodist affiliated school, Duke Chapel is now nondenominational.

There are Evangelicals and Catholics who critique yoga as wrong for Christians because its mantras originate in eastern religion. Setting aside that concern, should worship space be open to recreation and “profane” (i.e., secular) activities? Tai-chi? Kickboxing? Karate? Spinning? Ballroom dancing? Salsa? Hip-Hop? Ballet? Volleyball? Badminton? If not, why not?

Catholic and other liturgical traditions generally consecrate their worship spaces and open them to profane activities only after decommissioning. There is an understanding that the place where the Eucharist is served and the Word proclaimed is in some sense sacred, meriting reverence, dignity and protection.

Lower church Protestants and Evangelicals don’t always attach the same sense of lofty spirituality to their worship space. Many congregations, especially new ones, don’t own property, instead worshipping in rented school gymnasiums or theaters. Other congregations convene in multipurpose rooms with folding chairs, where space shifts from worship to meals to gymnastics or basketball.

Most traditional Protestant churches even if not very liturgical still have formal worship space filled with pews, faced by pulpit and altar, with walls adorned with Christian symbols. This space, while perhaps sometimes used for non-worship meetings, is still usually accorded respect and not host to recreation.

Worship space for many modern non-liturgical churches, while not hosting recreation, often resembles theaters without much if any sacred adornment, often purposefully so, ostensibly to avoid discomfiting unchurched visitors. Worshipers there, and increasingly in more traditional spaces, are often quite casual, wearing shorts, flip flops, baseball hats, carrying lattes or other drinks. These worshipers will often conform to more formality when attending weddings, funerals, graduations or other ceremonies they deem deeply significant.

This casual attitude at church should provoke reflection. Isn’t worship deeply significant and meriting respect? Shouldn’t Gospel proclamation, reading of God’s word, and the Lord’s Supper always together inspire awe, reverence and celebratory solemnity, no matter the surrounding architecture? And shouldn’t ideally that architecture itself point Godward, conducive to worship? Shouldn’t the space itself be deemed special, with expectation that God Himself is present, recalling that when Moses met Him in the wilds he removed his footwear in respect?

Duke Chapel, built as a medieval cathedral with such a sacred sense of God’s presence in mind, was intended to inspire appreciation of divine awe and mystery. = Sacred sense of God's presence when in fact these kind of churches are profane and full of abominations?

It’s not a multipurpose room or gymnasium. There are plenty of places on the extensive Duke University campus for yoga practitioners and other exercisers to perform their craft.

But exercising and sweating in tights on floormats in a soaring cathedral beneath its stained glass and carvings of saints and martyrs seems to detract from the sacredness of that place. Moses in God’s presence did remove his footwear and fall prostrate, but not to stretch and grunt. Today’s sanctuaries may not equal Mt. Sinai or King David’s Temple, but they should point in spirit to the same God, with consequent respect for His holiness from all who enter. This reverence honors God while also helping us to know Him a bit better.

https://juicyecumenism.com/2017/09/18/yoga-duke-chapel/


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