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Can you believe you can be associate with a church who wants to kill you? This is not for nothing our churches are infiltrate and run, in the most part, by Satan agents. There is a reason why they don't telling you that you're associate with this global Mystery Babylon church. 

12. The Pope hath the sole Rule and Power of the whole World in Temporals as well as in Spirituals, and therefore can depose Emperors and Kings, and may dispose of their Dominions as he shall think convenient.


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Pope Benedict XVI claims the Catholic church is the Pope Benedict XVI declared yesterday that Christian denominations other than his own were not true churches and their holy orders have no value.

Protestant leaders immediately responded by saying the claims were offensive and would hurt efforts to promote ecumenism.

Roman Catholic- Anglican relations are already strained over the Church of England's plans to ordain homosexuals and women as bishops. The claims came in a document, from a Vatican watchdog which was approved by the Pope.

It said the branches of Christianity formed after the split with Rome at the Reformation could not be called churches "in the proper sense" because they broke with a succession of popes who dated back to St Peter.

As a result, it went on, Protestant churches have "no sacramental priesthood", effectively reaffirming the controversial Catholic position that Anglican holy orders are worthless.

The document claimed the Catholic church was the "one true church of Christ".

Pope Benedict's commitment to the hardline teaching comes days after he reinstated the Mass in Latin, which was sidelined in the 1960s in an attempt to modernise.

The timing of the announcement fuelled speculation that the pontiff - regarded as an arch-conservative before his election in 2005 - is finally beginning to impose his views on the Catholic Church.

The Vatican said it was restating the position set out by the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in 2000 in a document called Domine Jesus because theologians continued to misunderstand it.

At that time, Anglican leaders from around the world made their anger felt by snubbing an invitation to join Pope John Paul II as he proclaimed St Thomas More the patron saint of politicians.

Bishop Wolfgang Huber, head of the Evangelical Church in Germany, said the Vatican document effectively downgraded Protestant churches and would make ecumenical relations more difficult.

He said the pronouncement repeated the "offensive statements" of the 2000 document and was a "missed opportunity" to patch up relations with Protestants.


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Not everyone who calls themselves is Christian actually is one

“And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:14-16

[g]If you needed further proof that the Laodicean church, warned of in the book of Revelation, is in full bloom right now, then this article should clear up any and all remaining doubt you may have. The World Council of Churches (WCC), boasting a membership of over 349 churches and denominations around the world, hates Israel with a passion and seeks their overthrow. The following was taken directly from documents on their own website:

The Bethlehem Call Project is run by wolves in sheep's clothing. Reject it.

“The Bethlehem Call: The deligitimization and criminalization of the Israeli government and its local and international support base is gaining unstoppable momentum. The existence of international boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) campaigns and other forms of nonviolent resistance is an established fact.

The government and state of Israel is now regarded as an apartheid regime in terms of international law, with particular reference to the UN Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid and the Rome Statutes of the International Criminal Court. The severity of the Palestinian situation makes comparisons with apartheid in South Africa superfluous and almost irrelevant. The benchmark is international law and not South Africa.

In the light of the above and with our conviction that Palestine is in an ever deepening crisis, Kairos Palestine urgently calls us to move forward boldly and act radically by speaking out with courage, passion and determination. The time for words and diplomatic niceties, that obscure the reality, are over. We affirm the churches’ commitment to and contributions for decisive action since the Amman Call as well as in the creation and impact of the Palestine Israel Ecumenical Forum (PIEF).” source – World Council of Churches

To our beloved Jewish brothers and sisters living in Israel, let us assure you that no one associated or affiliated with the World Council of Churches is in fact a Christian, and neither does their horrific and repugnant anti-Israel stand represent the cause of Yeshua Ha’Machiac in any way, shape of form. These pseudo-christians, the bible calls them ‘ravening wolves’, are not of God and neither do the follow the bible. What they preach, aside from the hatred of Jews and of Israel, is Replacement Theology, and it is a doctrine of the Devil himself.

From Arutz Sheva: Next March, the Bible College in Bethlehem will host dozens of US theologians, activists and ministries for the “Christ at the Checkpoint 2012 Conference”. It is to be a major religious and political event meant to demonize Israel and to support the Palestinian Intifada against the “ethnocentric” Jewish State.

The impressive range of Christian theologians and pastors from many churches located in the United States make the gravity of the upcoming conference clear. Samuel Rodriguez, President of the US National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, is a speaker. Also attending are popular US preacher and “spiritual adviser” to Bill Clinton, Tony Campolo, and President of the World Evangelical Alliance and Asia Evangelical Alliance, Sang-Bok David Kim. Two of the conference organisers, Stephen Sizer and Sami Awad, adamantly defended the Gaza flotilla sent in May 2010 by the Turkish terror group IHH.

Another speaker, Ben White, has shared a political platform with Azzam Tamimi, who has endorsed suicide bombings against Jewish civilians in the past.

In the last few months we have seen an increase of attacks on Israel by many Christian denominations. While the United States is home to millions of Christian supporters of Israel, these are anti-Jewish Churches which are more closely attached to global public opinion, European bureaucracy, the media industry, the United Nations and various legal forums.

In fact, the “Bethlehem Call” manifesto, which serves as platform for the Bethlehem 2012 Conference, has just been published on the websites of the Would Council of Churches, the Global Ministries of the United Church of Christ and the Disciples of Christ.

The Bethlehem Call defines Israel as an “illegal regime” and a “crime against humanity”, it promotes “international boycott, divestment and sanctions campaigns” against Israel, labels the more neutral Churches as “accomplices in crimes against humanity” and attacks Christian Zionism as “a crime and sin as defying the core of the Gospel”.

The Bethlehem Call also updates the “Kairos Palestine”, the major document used as global tool for the Christian struggle against Israel speaking in the behalf of “us Christian Palestinians”. Even the name of the Catholic Custodian of the Holy Land, Pierbattista Pizzaballa, prominently appears among the most important signatures in this website: http://www.kairospalestine.ps/sites/default/Documents/English.pdf

In 2007, the World Council of Churches, the umbrella organization of liberal Protestants claiming a membership of 580 million worshippers, also produced the “Amman Call”, which denies Israel’s right to continue to exist as a Jewish State by insisting that millions of Palestinians have the “right of return” to Israel.

In 2008, the World Council of Churches convened a group of Protestant and Catholic theologians to review the underpinnings of Christian attitudes about Israel. The group published the “Bern Perspective”, which, among other things, instructed Christians to understand all biblical references to Israel only “metaphorically”.

The theological meeting also marked a return to “replacement theology”, the medieval view that the Church has replaced the people of Israel in God’s plan and that all biblical references to Israel refer to the “new Israel”—that is, to Christians.

Replacement calumny has changed its language, yet still is basically a death sentence for the Jewish people. Now it is Israelis, like Lucifer, who were God’s chosen but were cast out for their rebellious and evil ways, and deserve to be obliterated from the “Holy Land”, according to this macabre theology. Taken together, it seems these Churches are now breathing new life into a kind of demonology which criminalizes all the Jews living between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean. source – Israeli National News


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This is a declaration of war against christians and anyone who will refuse to submit to this church who considered to be the real church of Jesus Christ. The office of inquisition will use a global caliphate and antiterrorist laws to achieve his global domination over the world.

The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, formally known as the Office of Inquisition, stresses the need that all Christians be Catholic.The quest for world-wide Catholicism continues in 2012

Pope Benedict XVI released an “apostolic” letter, Porta Fidei,  proclaiming the Year of Faith for 2012.

Starting Oct. 11, 2012 through Nov. 24,2012, the church will focus of world-wide Christian unity.  The dates are signifigant. Oct. 11th is the 50th anniversary of  Vatican II. Nov. 24th the Roman Catholic church celebrates the feast of Christ the King.

The Vatican state that this special year should be  “a propitious occasion to make Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church more widely and deeply known.”

The Year of Faith will include the following initiatives:

At the worldwide level, Pope Benedict will preside at a solemn opening celebration for the Year of Faith. The Vatican plans special ecumenical efforts, pushing toward Christian unity, including “a solemn ecumenical celebration in which all of the baptized will reaffirm their faith in Christ.”

At the national level, episcopal conferences will be encourage to focus on “the quality of catechesis,” and to ensure that the teaching of the faith is in “complete conformity with the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The bishops’ conferences will be strongly encouraged to use all available media outlets to promote that goal.

At the diocesan level, the CDF calls for “renewed creative DIALOGUE between faith and reason in the academic and artistic communities,” and for penitential celebrations, with a particular emphasis on asking God’s forgiveness for sins against the faith. At the parish level, the Year of Faith should be centered on the community liturgy, and specially the Eucharist, the CDF says. All other initiatives should be based on that foundation.

The Vatican will set up a special website to promote the initiative and a secretariat will be appointed within the Pontifical Council of the New Evangelization to promote the cause.

Source: catholicculture.org

My Comment:

It looks like they have boots on the ground.

Has the Roman Catholic church changed in it’s desire to make the world Catholic? No. The Office of Inquisition continues it’s PR push for world domination. The Vatican will be pushing hard for ecumenical unity this year. She will attempt more dialogue with the artistic and intellectual communities but especially non-Catholic Christians. The church will conduct penance services that ask God to forgive those against the Catholic faith.

Many denominations and churches will participate in these ecumenical services, blurring the lines of truth and putting a veil over the Gospel.

Nothing the Vatican or world leaders attempt has not first passed through the hands of our Sovereign God, who works all thing for good for those who love Him. These things must take place before He returns.

We don’t need to fear the changes taking place, economic collapse and a slow but steady erasure of borders. We do not need a fear.  We know who holds our future, and by His Word, holds the whole world together.

So we give thanks for everything, walking in the Word until our redemption draws nigh.

2 Timothy 4:3For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

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Pour ceux qui sont familiers avec l'Amérique, Babylone (l’ouvrage en deux volumes prouvant textuellement, des textes Grecs et Hébreux d’Ésaïe, Jérémie et de l’Apocalypse, que l'Amérique est la Babylone finale de la fin des temps), les nouvelles provenant du Congrès pour proscrire le christianisme authentique et faire des chrétiens des criminels ne devraient pas arriver comme une surprise. Oui, vous lisez très correctement.

Le congrès travaille maintenant pour proscrire la Bible et le christianisme !

Si le Congrès mène à terme comme il semble vouloir le faire maintenant une nouvelle loi pour les crimes haineux, cela fera que les chrétiens deviendront des criminels et seront exposés à de longues périodes d’emprisonnement, même si, éventuellement, la peine sera la mort.

Pourquoi le Congrès devrait-il faire cela? Le congrès est, et a toujours été, sous le contrôle de Satan par l’intermédiaire de l’ange déchu dont l’idole se dresse sur le dôme du Capitole. L’édifice du Capitole où les législateurs des États-Unis se rencontrent est un temple païen dédié à la mère des prostituées.

Explication de la toile de fond

Si vous êtes un chrétien américain, vous allez probablement refuser de croire que votre Amérique, « la nation préférée de Dieu, » pourrait tourner le dos au christianisme. Après tout « Dieu a répandu Sa grâce sur Vous » comme le dit la chanson. Le congrès ne pourrait jamais proscrire le christianisme, n'est-ce pas ?

Non seulement le Congrès rendra-t-il illégal le christianisme, mais il le fait maintenant dans l’édifice originalement appelé le Temple de la déesse de la liberté, qui était au début la déesse principale de Babylone, Ishtar, aussi connue comme la déesse de la liberté et aussi connue comme la mère des prostituées. (Voici un lien vers la page web de la Bibliothèque du Congrès des États-Unis donnant accès au Capitole étant le temple de la liberté, voir ici). Avec cet ultime effort du Congrès pour proscrire le christianisme, les lecteurs de Alpha Omega Report qui ont déjà lu l’Amérique, Babylone ne devraient pas en être surpris, bien que l'ironie de la situation soit déconcertante pour l’esprit.

Le Congrès se rencontre dans l’édifice du Capitole que les pères fondateurs ont nommé originalement le Temple de la déesse de la liberté. Cette déesse est en fait la déesse principale de Babylone connue comme Ishtar/Inanna qui a détenu plusieurs titres dans Babylone, y compris celui de déesse de la liberté, ainsi que celui de la mère des prostituées. C'était un titre grandement honorable, la vénération et la sainteté pour ses fidèles.

Les pères fondateurs de l'Amérique ont officiellement appelé le bâtiment où les législateurs se rencontreraient le temple de la liberté, dévoué à la déesse de la liberté. La plupart des gens ne comprennent pas que la déesse de la liberté est en fait la prostituée d’Apocalypse 17:5, la mère des prosituées.

Les Nouvelles Lois Sont Proposées Pour Une Adoption Rapide Sous la Bannière des Lois Pour Crimes Haineux. H.R. 1592 a 137 Répondants !

Il semblerait que ce ne soit qu’une question de temps avant que les chrétiens qui croient en la Bible deviennent des criminels et que la Bible soit proscrite comme une publication « haineuse » sous les nouvelles propositions légales prévues pour une adoption rapide au Congrès.

Une nouvelle proposition à la Chambre des représentants des États-Unis, H.R. 1592, est un nouveau projet de loi qui criminalisera les pensées, les sensations, et les croyances. Ce projet a le potentiel d’interférer avec les libertés religieuses et la liberté de paroles sous les déguisements des discours « haineux ».

La nouvelle législation, si elle passe, proscrirait efficacement la Bible et le christianisme basé sur la Bible et fera des criminels des chrétiens authentiques qui croient en la Bible. La proposition est conçue pour protéger l'homosexualité par l’intermédiaire d’une nouvelle loi fédérale qui ferait « des pensées, des sensations et des convictions » des offenses criminelles et mettrait les chrétiens dans la mire pour des accusations fédérales. Sous la nouvelle loi, des groupes chrétiens comme Focus on the Family, avec James Dobson, deviendraient des groupes illégaux et Dobson pourrait faire face à une sentence de prison à vie.

Le pasteur Ted Pike de l'Alliance nationale pour la prière a été la figure principale dans la lutte contre cette loi. Il a déclaré :

« La plupart des personnes qui se préoccupent du passage imminent du projet de loi fédéral contre la haine ne se rendent pas compte que le S.1105 pour le Sénat et le H.R.1592 pour la Chambre, ne sont, en fait, que des amendements à une loi fédérale contre la haine passée en 1969. Pendant les hauts du mouvement pour les droits civiques, « Titre 18, U.S.C., Sec. 245 » stipulait que personne ne pouvait verbalement « …attenter à…intimider » une autre personne (principalement les Noirs) pour lui refuser la jouissance de ses droits protégés par le gouvernement fédéral pour les emplois, les services publics, le logement, le droit de voter, les privilèges de jury, etc… Si le gouvernement trouve de telles « intimidations » verbales dans un État et que les officiels de l'État n'appliquent pas ces garanties, le gouvernement fédéral peut envahir les droits des États dans l'application de la loi locale, en se référant à Titre 18. »

Pike remarque qu’en 2007, la nouvelle mesure donnera un traitement spécial aux homosexuels, aux transsexuels et aux travestis.

La proposition rendrait « passible de poursuites par le fédéral de « …tenter …intimider » un homosexuel qui croit qu'il (même s'il est atteint du SIDA ou d'hépatite) a le droit de travailler dans un restaurant, être employé comme un policier ou être conseiller dans les camps d'été, ou a des droits égaux au logement et à l'emploi quel que soit l’endroit souhaité, » selon le pasteur Pike.

N'importe quel ministère, église, pasteur, éditeur ou animateur chrétien qui cite simplement les passages de la Bible interdisant ou mentionnant l'homosexualité d’une manière négative serait considéré en violation avec la loi et pourrait faire face à entre 25 et 50 ans de prison juste pour avoir dit ou publié quelques mots.

Et, bien sûr, avec la nouvelle loi, il serait illégal pour une église de refuser d'engager un homosexuel ou une lesbienne comme pasteur d'église ou n’importe quelle autre position dans l'église !

WorldNetDaily rapporte que la proposition a été endossée par une majorité de démocrates sur le Comité judiciaire de la Chambre et a 137 membres du Congrès qui la supportent.

L'État du New Hampshire a battu le Congrès des États-Unis en promulguant sa propre loi sur « les crimes haineux » avant que le Congrès des États-Unis puisse agir en premier. C'est une loi excessivement « menaçante ».

Apocalypse 17

''1 Puis un des sept anges qui tenaient les sept coupes vint, et il m’adressa la parole, en disant : Viens, je te montrerai le jugement de la grande prostituée qui est assise sur les grandes eaux :

2 C’est avec elle que les rois de la terre se sont livrés à l’impudicité, et c’est du vin de son impudicité que les habitants de la terre se sont enivrés.

4 Cette femme était vêtue de pourpre et d’écarlate, et parée d’or, de pierres précieuses et de perles. Elle tenait dans sa main une coupe d’or remplie d’abominations et des impuretés de sa prostitution :

5 Sur son front était écrit un nom, un mystère : Babylone la grande, la mère des impudiques et des abominations de la terre.

6 Et je vis cette femme ivre du sang des saints et du sang des témoins de Jésus. Et, en la voyant, je fus saisi d’un grand étonnement.''


3 Parce que toutes les nations ont bu du vin de la fureur de son impudicité, et que les rois de la terre se sont livrés avec elle à l’impudicité, et que les marchands de la terre se sont enrichis par la puissance de son luxe.

AUSSI, Apocalypse 18:23

…parce que tes marchands étaient les grands de la terre, parce que toutes les nations ont été séduites par tes enchantements.

Ce dernier verset fait remarquer que le vin est impliqué dans la force industrielle « pharmakeia, » ou l'usage des produits chimiques et toute la panoplie des pratiques occultes y compris la médecine moderne, les sciences, les plastiques, l'industrie pétrolière et gazière, les industries chimiques.

Comment convaincre les chrétiens que les États-Unis sont Babylone ?

Ces nouvelles du Congrès travaillant sur une législation pour proscrire le christianisme tout en prétendant être une nation « chrétienne » devraient être suffisantes pour réveiller les chrétiens de l’Amérique parce que ces travaux sont le dernier exemple de l'Amérique devenant Babylone. Mais les chrétiens américains ne se réveilleront pas parce que la plupart d'entre eux sont ivres du vin du blasphème que leur Église a bu, comme le reste du monde. (voir Apocalypse 17:5)

Les chrétiens américains réaliseront-ils un jour qu'ils vivent dans la Babylone prophétisée par Ésaïe (chapitres 13, 14, 47), Jérémie (chapitres 50, 51) et par Jean dans les chapitres de l’Apocalypse 17 et 18 ?

C'est tout à fait probable que les Américains se réveilleront trop tard, sinon jamais, pour comprendre ce qui se passe autour d'eux. Comme les prophéties le déclarent clairement, la prostituée a « enivré » la Terre entière et l'Église de l’Amérique a bu de son vin, exactement comme le reste de l'humanité.

Oui, l'Église américaine est devenue ivre du vin de la prostituée qui est le vin de la liberté et de la « démocratie ». Pour cette raison, l'Église a dormi pendant 200 ans, et la plupart des prétendues « églises américaines » ont suivi un faux évangile, ce qui signifie qu’il y a très peu d'Américains qui sont ou ont jamais été des chrétiens. La plupart des « chrétiens » américains passés et présents sont condamnés pour l’éternité parce qu'ils ont modifié le salut. Le salut est par la Grâce à travers la foi seulement, pas par les efforts des humains. Cependant, la plupart des chrétiens américains essaient d'ajouter les efforts humains dans le mélange du salut et créent ainsi un nouvel évangile.

L’apôtre Paul écrivait dans Galates 1:6-9, que quiconque ajoute « l'effort humain » à l'évangile pur de la Grâce par la foi seulement, est condamné éternellement, sans aucun espoir parce qu'il s’est coupé de la Grâce, at insulté Dieu et a rejeté l'offre simple de Dieu.

Ce faux évangile du salut par la foi plus les efforts des humains est courant dans la plupart des églises en Amérique aujourd'hui, peut-être même dans plus de 98% des églises américaines actuelles et à travers l'histoire de l'Amérique.

Il y a déjà un réveil lent par certains chrétiens américains sur l'idée que quelque chose est horriblement mauvais et certains ont commencé à se demander si l'Amérique pourrait bien être Babylone. Pour ceux d’entre vous qui êtes des lecteurs de Alpha Omega Report, qui reconnaissez et comprenez que l'Amérique est la Babylone la prophétie biblique, vous feriez une très bonne action en passant votre copie de l’Amérique, La Babylone aux autres, ou obtenez une copie supplémentaire de Alpha Omaga Report en faisant un don pour conserver le site vivant et continuer.


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Une falsification de la religion
Pour le pape, le fondamentalisme constitue « toujours une falsification de la religion » et il est à l’opposé du « sens de la religion qui est, au contraire, une invitation à partager la paix de Dieu dans le monde entier ».

Le pape encourage « l'engagement de l'Eglise et des religions » à « procéder à la purification de ces tentations, pour éclairer les consciences et essayer de donner à chacun une image claire de Dieu ».




Benoît XVI demande, au nom de Dieu, aux responsables politiques et religieux non seulement de soulager les souffrances de tous ceux qui vivent au Moyen-Orient, mais aussi d’en éliminer les causes, en faisant tout le possible pour arriver à la paix »


le Pape lance un appel urgent à tous les responsables religieux du Moyen-Orient afin qu’ils tentent, par leur exemple et leur enseignement, de faire le possible pour éradiquer cette menace qui touche sans distinction aucune et moralement les croyants de toutes les religions.



It requires the political sphere tooperate without manipulating religion, and guarantees that religion may live without the encumbrance of political interests. Religious fundamentalism- which grows in a climate of socio-political uncertainty - seeks to takepower for political ends, at times using violence, over the individual conscience and over religion. For this reason, the Pope issues a heartfelt appeal to all the religious leaders of the Middle East to endeavour, by their example and their teaching, to do everything possible to uproot thisthreat which indiscriminately and fatally affects believers of all religions.


They are invited to be bold in the cause of Christ. In order that their witness befruitful, however, lay people must overcome the divisions and all subjective interpretations of Christian life.

Benedict XVI solemnly asks, in the nameofGod, thatpolitical and religious authorities notonly alleviatethe suffering ofall thosewho live in the MiddleEast, but also eliminatethe causes ofthissuffering, and do all in theirpowertoenablepeacetoprevail ...


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Last Updated: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 | 10:27 AM ET
CBC News

The Vatican issued a document Tuesday restating its belief that the Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

The 16-page document was prepared by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, a doctrinal watchdog that Pope Benedict used to head.

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Pope Benedict XVI was elected Pope in April 2005.
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Formulated as five questions and answers, the document is titled "Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church."

It says although Orthodox churches are true churches, they are defective because they do not recognize the primacy of the Pope.

"It follows that these separated churches and communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation," it said.

The document adds that Protestant denominations — called Christian Communities born out of the Reformation — are not true churches, but ecclesial communities.

"These ecclesial communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood … cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called 'churches' in the proper sense," it said.

The document is similar to one written in 2000 by the Pope — who was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger at the time — that sparked an angry reaction from Protestant groups.

"I suspect there will be some reactions that are rather passionate," said Raphaela Schmid, director of the Becket Institute, a group that advocates religious freedom. "I hope they will not be angry because we all try to understand about each other."

The document is issued by Benedict's successor in doctrinal matters, Cardinal William Levada, and endorsed by the Pope, said Reuters.

The DECREE comes days after liberal Catholic and Jewish groups spoke out against the Pope's move to authorize the wider use of a traditional Latin mass.

The Tridentine mass includes a prayer for the conversion of Jews. Its use was restricted following the Second Vatican Council from 1962 to 1965.

Pope Benedict issued a decree last week authorizing its broader use in an effort to reconcile with followers of an ultratraditional excommunicated bishop.

The Jewish Anti-Defamation League in New York called it a "body blow to Catholic-Jewish relations."


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« Combien ceux qui n’ont pas l’esprit de Dieu sont nuisibles ! Comme ils font du mal aux autres par leurs paroles et par leurs exemples ! Ils sont constamment à dire du mal de celui-ci, de celui-là, de celle-là ; ils ressemblent, comme dit Notre Seigneur, à ces petites vipères, ces serpents qui sont là à épier le moment où elles pourront vous mordre pour répandre le poison qu’elles portent continuellement dans leur sein. »

Le Véritable disciple (Parole et silence, p. 231)

ZENIT, 27 février 2014


Fondateur de l'Œuvre du Prado (✝ 1879)

Vicaire dans une paroisse pauvre de Lyon, il choisit l'humilité et l'extrême dénuement pour se mettre au service des pauvres. En 1860, il loue un ancien dancing, "le Prado" et c'est là qu'il va catéchiser les enfants de la misère. Mais il veut aller plus loin. Il fonde avec quelques prêtres et quelques sœurs la "Société du Prado" pour vivre en pauvres parmi les pauvres, vivant ainsi l'idéal évangélique dans toutes ses exigences.

Il a été béatifié par le pape Jean-Paul II, à Lyon, en 1986.

La vie du Père Chevrier (site des prêtres du Prado)

- Bienheureux Antoine Chevrier (1826-1879) Après une nuit de méditation devant la crèche, ce prêtre du diocèse de Lyon a l'intuition de fonder le Prado pour l'évangélisation des pauvres et des petits. Témoins - site de l'Église catholique en France

- Antoine Chevrier, Prière devant la crèche - Devenez des saints - etc... Diocèse de Lyon

À Lyon, en 1879, le bienheureux Antoine Chevrier, prêtre, qui fonda l’Œuvre de la Providence du Prado, pour la formation de prêtres capables d’enseigner la religion chrétienne aux jeunes gens pauvres.

Martyrologe romain

Les saints sont les hommes le plus puissants de la terre; ils attirent tout à eux, parce qu’ils ont la charité, la lumière de Dieu, la fécondité de l’Esprit Saint. Ils ont la richesse de Dieu qu’ils distribuent à tous les hommes; ce sont les économes du bon Dieu sur la terre.

Et il faut, mes chers enfants, que vous deveniez des saints; il faut que vous deveniez des lumières pour conduire les hommes dans le bon chemin, du feu pour réchauffer les froids et les glacés, des images vivantes de Dieu sur la terre pour servir de modèles à tous les chrétiens.


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Et ils sont là à parler de l'unité malgré les différences, mais si vous êtes un vrai serviteur de Yeschoua et que vous obéissez non à Rome mais à Dieu, là, tout devient différent, vous êtes alors un "raciste spirituel". Ne voyez-vous pas que si vous refusez de vous soumettre à cette Eglise corrompue, on vous fera la guerre? Non,
la protestation de Luther n'est pas terminée mais ces adorateurs du soleil/Lucifer sont bien décidés à tous nous exterminer.

Ce que nous voyons avec toute ce grand DIALOGUE INTERRELIGIEUX et cet OECUMENISME MONDIAL est que l'on rejette les doctrines les plus fondamentales de la foi chrétienne d'un côté tout en faisant le promotion de l'islam. Le Pape François a déclaré "«Nous ne devons jamais oublier qu'ils  « prétendent avoir la foi d' Abraham, et avec nous, ils adorent le Dieu unique et miséricordieux , qui jugera l'humanité le dernier jour."

Nous voyons de plus en plus d'Eglises faire la promotion de la foi d'Abraham pour amener cette transition. Mais cette foi qui devrait être fondée sur la foi d'Abraham fait la transition vers une islamisation mondiale et non sur les lois et préceptes de Dieu. Relire l'histoire des 2 fils d'Abraham pour une meilleure compréhension.

Ceux et celles qui connaissent leur Créateur et Seigneur continueront à se tenir debout jusqu'au bout pour la gloire de leur Dieu car ils ont cette espérance bienheureuse qu'un jour, le Seigneur rétablira toutes choses, e
t cette caste luciférienne le sait très bien. Maintenant les gros mots contre le vrai peuple de Dieu et de plus en plus de "traitements spéciaux" pour les vrais chrétiens et les juifs. la guerre est déclarée contre Sa Majesté et Sa création, et nous en voyons les ravages de plus en plus de par le monde.

Le discours de Tony Palmer est très clair. Gardez espoir, ces apostats recevront leur juste châtiment au jour du grand jugement.

Note MAV: LA GRANDE PROSTITUÉE SE LÈVE. J’ai pu le constater partout: les églises protestantes ou évangéliques, les unes après les autres, tombent dans le piège pourtant tellement annoncé dans la Bible pour que nous ayons les yeux ouverts !

 Apocalypse 13:3,44 .
.. Et toute la terre était dans l’admiration derrière la bête. Et ils adorèrent le dragon, parce qu’il avait donné l’autorité à la bête ; ils adorèrent la bête, en disant : Qui est semblable à la bête, et qui peut combattre contre elle ?«

TOUTE LA TERRE …. Comment les Chrétiens ne comprennent-ils pas qu’ils sont les premiers concernés, dans la folie galopante de l’œcuménisme orchestrée, ô combien habilement, par le pape François, maître dans l’art jésuitique du double langage et de la séduction spirituelle ?



À l’Église de Philadelphie, la seule qui va être gardée, la seule qui va être sauvée parce qu’elle ne va pas tomber dans cette terrible séduction, Jésus a révélé quelles étaient ses principales caractéristiques:

Voici, parce que tu as peu de puissance, et que tu as gardé ma parole, et que tu n’as pas renié mon nom, j’ai mis devant toi une porte ouverte, que personne ne peut fermer.

PAS DE PUISSANCE (le mot grec implique la puissance temporelle: politique, militaire, financière…), et surtout GARDÉ LA PAROLE (Pas de compromis ni d’édulcoration), PAS RENIÉ SON NOM (Jésus est l’alpha et l’omega: le simple fait de tordre sa parole pour rendre acceptable les dogmes hérétiques de l’Eglise romaine, c’est renier Christ Jésus )

Et voici ce qu’elle va recevoir en échange:

Apoc  3:10 Parce que tu as gardé la parole de la persévérance en moi, je te garderai aussi à l’heure de la tentation qui va venir sur le monde entier, pour éprouver les habitants de la terre. 3:11 Je viens bientôt. Retiens ce que tu as, afin que personne ne prenne ta couronne

Tous ceux qui ne sont pas dans Philadelphie, aujourd’hui, SONT DANS LA SYNAGOGUE DE SATAN ! MAIS ON PEUT EN SORTIR !

Apoc  3:9 Voici, je te donne de ceux de la synagogue de Satan, qui se disent Juifs et ne le sont pas, mais qui mentent ; voici, je les ferai venir, se prosterner à tes pieds, et connaître que je t’ai aimé.

Laurent (Site: RENCONTRERDIEU) m’envoie la vidéo suivante, qu’il a traduite.  C’EST TERRIFIANT D’ENTENDRE CETTE MANIPULATION, CETTE SÉDUCTION, faite au nom d’une unité mondiale des chrétiens et autres (musulmans, hindous, etc), par quelqu’un qui prétend aimer Christ et n’avoir pour référence que la vérité, alors qu’il faut gommer les trois quarts de la Bible pour inclure les fausses doctrines des uns et des autres dans ce jack-pot baptisé oecuménisme et que la Bible appelle: GRANDE PROSTITUÉE !

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By Stoyan Zaimov, Christian Post Reporter
May 15, 2014|4:55 pm

Pope Francis said that people cannot be Christians without the Church, explaining that Christian identity is rooted in it and that believers cannot stand alone.

"Our Christian identity is belonging to a people: the Church. Without this, we are not Christians. We entered the Church through baptism: there we are Christians," Francis said during Mass on Thursday, Vatican Radio reported.

"A Christian without a church is something purely idealistic, it is not real," the Roman Catholic Church leader argued.

He said that one cannot "understand a Christian alone" any more than "Jesus Christ alone" can be understood.

"Jesus Christ did not fall from the sky like a superhero who comes to save us. No. Jesus Christ has a history. And we can say, and it is true, that God has a history because He wanted to walk with us. And you cannot understand Jesus Christ without His history. So a Christian without history, without a Christian nation, a Christian without the Church is incomprehensible. It is a thing of the laboratory, an artificial thing, a thing that cannot give life," Francis said.

The Vatican leader urged believers to "ask for the grace of memory, the memory of the journey that the people of God has made," as well as for personal memory – "What God did for me, in my life, how has He made me walk."

He added that the "grace of hope" is also necessary for Christian identity, explaining that he does not mean optimism, but "something else."

"Ask for the grace to renew the covenant with the Lord who has called us every day," Francis said.

During Mass on Monday, Francis also theorized about alien life forms, and suggested that even Martians should be welcomed to be baptized as well.

"If – for example – tomorrow an expedition of Martians came, and some of them came to us, here ... Martians, right? Green, with that long nose and big ears, just like children paint them ... And one says, 'But I want to be baptized!' What would happen?" Pope Francis remarked, and told the audience that baptism is open to everyone.

He also recalled the words of Peter: "If then God gave them the same gift He gave to us when we came to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to be able to hinder God?"


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The Huffington Post  | By Antonia Blumberg

Posted: 06/14/2014 8:22 pm EDT Updated: 06/14/2014 8:59 pm EDT

Pope Francis said a lot in his recent interview with Spanish-language magazine La Vanguardia. The interview

Here are 8 of the most powerful quotes:

On fundamentalism

"A fundamentalist group, although it may not kill anyone, although it may not strike anyone, is violent. The mental structure of fundamentalists is violence in the name of God."

On making change

"I think that the way to make true changes is identity. You can never take a step in life if it’s not from behind, without knowing where I come from, what last name I have, what cultural or religious last name I have."

On his personal safety

"I know that something could happen to me, but it’s in the hands of God. I remember that in Brazil they had prepared a closed Popemobile for me, with glass, but I couldn’t greet the people and tell them that I love them from within a sardine tin. Even if it’s made of glass, for me that is a wall. It’s true that something could happen to me, but let’s be realistic, at my age I don’t have much to lose."

On poverty

"You can't understand the Gospel without poverty, but we have to distinguish it from pauperism. I think that Jesus wants us bishops not to be princes but servants."

On globalization

"Poorly understood globalization is that which nullifies differences. It is like a sphere in which all points are equidistant from the center. A globalization that enriches is like a polyhedron, all united but each preserving its particularity, its wealth, its identity, and this isn’t given. And this does not happen."

On Christianity and Judaism

"I think that inter-religious dialogue needs to deepen in this, in Christianity’s Jewish root and in the Christian flowering of Judaism. I understand it is a challenge, a hot potato, but it can be done as brothers."

On becoming pope

"I am no illumined one. I don’t have any personal project that I’ve brought with me under an arm, simply because I never thought that they were going to leave me here, in the Vatican. Everyone knows this. I came with a little piece of luggage to go straight back to Buenos Aires."

On his legacy

"I have not thought about it, but I like it when someone remembers someone and says: “He was a good guy, he did what he could. He wasn’t so bad.” I’m OK with that."

Read the entire original interview in La Vanguardia here.


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"Pope Francis described as "dangerous" the temptation to believe that one can have "a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ without communion with and the mediation of the church."


... "Le pape a mis en garde contre « la tentation dangereuse » d'« avoir un rapport personnel, direct, immédiat avec Jésus-Christ en dehors de la communion et de la médiation de l’Église », la tentation « de faire sans les autres, sans l’Église, de se sauver tout seuls "....


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· Text quotes 'absence of sacramental priesthood'
· Declaration criticised as huge step backwards

Pope Benedict XVI. Photograph: Vincenzo Pinto/AFP/Getty Images

Protestant churches yesterday reacted with dismay to a new declaration approved by Pope Benedict XVI insisting they were mere "ecclesial communities" and their ministers effectively phonies with no right to give communion.

Coming just four days after the reinstatement of the Latin mass, yesterday's document left no doubt about the Pope's eagerness to back traditional Roman Catholic practices and attitudes, even at the expense of causing offence.

The view that Protestants cannot have churches was first set out by Pope Benedict seven years ago when, as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, he headed the Vatican "ministry" for doctrine. A commentary attached to the latest text acknowledged that his 2000 document, Dominus Iesus, had caused "no little distress".

But it added: "It is nevertheless difficult to see how the title of 'Church' could possibly be attributed to [Protestant communities], given that they do not accept the theological notion of the Church in the Catholic sense and that they lack elements considered essential to the Catholic Church."

The Pope's old department, which issued the document, said its aim was to correct "erroneous or ambiguous" interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, which ended in 1965. Quoting a text approved by the Council, it said Protestant churches, "because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood", had not "preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery".

However, other Christians saw the latest document as another retreat from the spirit of openness generated by the Council, which laid the basis for talks on Christian unity. Bishop Wolfgang Huber, head of the Protestant umbrella group Evangelical Church in Germany, said: "The hope for a change in the ecumenical situation has been pushed further away by the document published today."

He said the new pronouncement repeated "offensive statements" in the 2000 document and was a "missed opportunity" to improve relations with Protestants. The president of the Federation of Evangelical Churches in Italy, pastor Domenico Maselli, called it a "huge step backwards in relations between the Roman Catholic church and other Christian communities".

A statement from the French Protestant Federation warned that the internal document would have "external repercussions".

The Church of England reacted more cautiously than seven years ago when Dominus Iesus was issued and the then Archbishop of Canterbury, George Carey, denounced it as unacceptable. The spokesman for the current archbishop, Rowan Williams, said: "This is a serious document, teaching on important ecclesiological matters and of significance to the churches' commitment to the full, visible unity to the one church of Jesus Christ."

The Vatican's statement had fewer misgivings about the Orthodox Church, which had "true sacraments" and a genuine priesthood. But their failure to acknowledge the Pope's authority meant they suffered from a "defectus", politely translated from Latin as "a wound".

On Saturday, the Pope freed Catholics to ask for masses to be celebrated according to the Latin rite abolished by the Second Vatican Council. This meant the reinstatement of a Good Friday prayer describing Jews as blind to the Christian truth.

The president of the Italian rabbinical assembly, Giuseppe Laras, yesterday called it "a heavy blow". He told the daily Corriere della Sera: "We are going back. A long way back."


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By James Quandy (about the author)
Headlined to H1 6/6/15

For the original article in "Addicting Info", quoted from below: click here

"Pope Francis has been very clear about how he feels about ideological purity in religion. He's been particularly critical of right-wing Christian fundamentalism. Pope Francis has shifted the focus of the Catholic Church to issues facing the poor and the sick. He has railed against economic inequality and has criticized the anti-gay and anti-abortion strains that have come to dominate the Christian Right here in America. Such ideological extremism is dangerous, not only to Christianity, but to the world. And Pope Francis said as much last Thursday.

Pope Francis called right-wing Christian fundamentalism a sickness.

During a daily Mass last week, Pope Francis called ideological Christianity "an illness" that doesn't serve Jesus Christ. Instead, it "frightens" people and pushes them away from religion.


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According to Radio Vatican, the Pope said:

"In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought" For this reason Jesus said to them: 'You have taken away the key of knowledge.' The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?"

Based on past statements, Pope Francis' remarks were aimed mostly at the Christian Right.

While Pope Francis did not specifically mention Christian right-wing ideology during the Mass, his past remarks suggest he was talking about that ideology most of all.

In September, Pope Francis attacked "savage capitalism" and took up the plight of the unemployed against a system that worships money. Earlier that month, the Pope also criticized conservative Catholics for focusing so much on abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception. And in July, Pope Francis put the brakes on hating gay people, saying that we shouldn't judge or marginalize them.

Clearly, Pope Francis isn't fond of the extreme ideals of the Christian Right. He supports helping the poor. He believes in economic fairness. He denounces hatred of gay people. He thinks the war against abortion and birth control has gone too far. Considering all of these things, it's pretty obvious that Pope Francis was mostly talking to right-wing Christians on Thursday. Their ideological fanaticism has damaged religion. They have abandoned the true teachings of Jesus to pursue an extremist agenda. And Pope Francis just called them out for it. Cue right-wing rage in 3, 2, 1""

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"The belief in the Bible as the sole source of faith is unhistorical, illogical, fatal to the virtue of faith, and destructive of unity." -The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XIII, "Protestantism", Section III A - Sola Scriptura ("Bible Alone"), Nihil Obstat, February 1, 1912 by Remy Lafort, D.D., Censor, Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York. (online source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12495a.htm ) "Unfortunately many of these books were lost during the persecution of the 17th century, and only those books and ancient documents sent to the libraries of Cambridge and Geneva by Pastor Leger were perserved. The Papists took care, after every persecution, to destroy as much of the Waldensean literature as possible. Many of the Barbes were learned men and well versed in the languages and science of the Scriptures. A knowledge of the Bible was the distinctive feature of the ancient, and now the modern Vaudois. Deprived for centuries of a visible church and forced to worship in caves and dens, this intimate knowledge of God's word was their only light. Their school was in the almost inaccessible solitude of the deep mountain gorge called 'Pra Del Tor', and their studies were severe and long-continued, embracing the Latin, Romaunt and Italian languages."-Bompiani - A Short History of the Italian Waldenses
Their refusal to surrender the scriptures was an offense that the Papacy could not tolerate. The Papacy was determined to exterminate the heretics from the face of the Earth. The heretics greatest offense, was that they refused to worship God according to the will of the Pope. For this crime, the heretics suffered every humiliation, insult and torture that man could event: ( Fox's Book Of Martyrs)
1) Hanged and their genitals were cut off
2) The mothers were whipped
3) The women's breast were ripped off
4) They were tied up and fried in a large pan
5) Their mouths were sewed shut
6) They were placed into a pot of boiling water
7) Their arms and legs were cut off
8) Some had their eyes bored out

(Rev.) Dr. Cahill declared that "he would rather the Catholic should read the worst books of immorality than the Protestant Bible-that forgery of God's Word, that slander of Christ." - (Roman Catholic Tablet, December 17, 1853, p. 804).
"Do you allow your flock to read the Bible at all?" said a writer in the Contemporary Review to a friend of his, a parish priest. "No, sir, I do not; you forget that I am a physician, not a poisoner of souls." -Contemporary Review April, 1894, p. 576.
"The doctrines of the Catholic Church are entirely independent of Holy Scripture." Familiar Explanation of Catholic Doctrine, Rev. M. Muller, p.151.

The decree set forth in the year 1229 A.D. by the Council of Valencia... places Bible on The Index of Forbidden Books. The doctrine withholds "it is forbidden for laymen (common man) to read the Old and New Testaments. - We forbid them most severely to have the above books in the popular vernacular." "The lords of the districts shall carefully seek out the heretics in dwellings, hovels, and forests, and even their underground retreats shall be entirely wiped out." Council Tolosanum, Pope Gregory IX, Anno. Chr. 1229

The church Council of Tarragona ruled that: "No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after the promulgation of this decree, so they may be burned." D. Lortsch, Histoire de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.

"Socialism, Communism, clandestine societies, Bible societies... pests of this sort must be destroyed by all means." The encyclical Quanta Cura Issued by Pope Pius IX, December 6, 1866

"The Bible does not pretend to be a formulary of belief, as in a creed or catechism. There is nowhere in the New Testament a clear, methodical statement of the teaching of Christ" -Question Box, p. 66

"The very nature of the Bible ought to prove to any thinking man the impossibility of its being the one safe method to find out what the Savior taught
."  Ibid., p. 67

...It was well for Luther that he did not come into the world until a century after the immortal invention of Guttenberg. A hundred years earlier his idea of directing two hundred and fifty million men to read the Bible would have been received with shouts of laughter, and would inevitably have caused his removal from the pulpit of Wittenburg to a hospital for the insane." -The Faith of Our Fathers, p. 69; see also The Faith of Millions, p. 152

"Again it has ever been practically impossible for men, generally, to find out Christ from the Bible only." -Question Box, p. 70

"...The Bible nowhere implies that it is the only source of faith." -Ibid., p. 77

"The Scriptures indeed is a divine book but it is a dead letter, which has to be explained, and cannot exercise the action which the preacher can obtain." -Our Priesthood, p. 155

"...A dead and speechless book." -Question Box, p. 67

"The simple fact is that the Bible, like all dead letters, calls for a living interpreter." -The Faith of Millions, p. 155

"The Bible was not intended to be a textbook of Christian religion." -Catholic Facts, p. 50

The Catholic church declares the Bible not a textbook for the Christian faith? I do believe the following verses have proven the Roman Catholic church has been caught red handed telling bold face lies. This not only proves they lied, it also exposes WHY they preach the Bible is "...a dead and speechless book." They hope to keep the masses out of the Bible mainly because once they open one, they realize who the liar truly is.

The Bible declares it teaches...

All necessary things which Jesus did - Acts 1:1-2
Certainty of His action and teaching - Luke 1:3-4
Life in the name of Jesus - John 20:30-31
Instructions to salvation - 2 Tim. 3:15
Commands of the Lord - 1 Cor. 14:37
The proper conduct - 1 Tim. 3:14-15
Every good work - 2 Tim. 3:16-17
Protection against sin - 1 John 2:1
An assurance of eternal life - 1 John 5:13
Standard by which teachers are tested - Acts 17:11
Standard which we cannot go beyond - 1 Cor. 4:6
Blessings from God - Rev. 1:3
Joy that is complete - 1 John 1:3-4
Standard of judgment - Rev. 20:12

Hebrews - 4:12 "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."


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If Jesus is just a man, Jesus can't save humanity? Heretic Pope!

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